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		<title>By: Curtis Borza</title>
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		<title>By: Matthew C. Krian</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, absolutlty love the site and will definatley be coming back in the near future!]]></description>
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		<title>By: Angry Irishman</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand your take on the situation. However, I played college football and professionally in Canada and really analyze the game as it develops. I have been watching Charlie make bonehead mistake after bonehead mistake. He has been here for five years and has nothing to show for it. The kids are obviously not reacting to his coaching techniques and speeches. I could make a list of all his mistakes but we don&#039;t have time for that. The Michigan loss should never have happened. Michigan started a freshman quarterback right out of high school and made our defense look silly. Nobody pressured him upfield and closed on him when he was running around all over the field. I saw no pressure from our interior lineman and the secondary exposed trying to cover people all over the field. I saw players completely out of position as evidenced by the spacing between the ball carrier and our defensive players. This is where coaching comes in. The adjustments should&#039;ve been made at halftime. Tenuda is another bag of wind! He came over here to instill an aggressive swarming defense. I am pleased with the offense for the most part. We could do without the holding penalties etc. Weis is the head coach and is accountable for the entire football team not just the offense. His clock management down the stretch was brutal! He needs somebody standing next to him holding a clock on the sideline to remind him of the time left on the clock. There are no more excuses at this point. Several friends of mine are alumni and they are done with Charlie. They donate thousands to the university and the football program and have a lot of pull. Charlies days afre numbered and athletic director Swarbrick better come out from under the rock he is hiding under and man up! I&#039;m out !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your take on the situation. However, I played college football and professionally in Canada and really analyze the game as it develops. I have been watching Charlie make bonehead mistake after bonehead mistake. He has been here for five years and has nothing to show for it. The kids are obviously not reacting to his coaching techniques and speeches. I could make a list of all his mistakes but we don&#8217;t have time for that. The Michigan loss should never have happened. Michigan started a freshman quarterback right out of high school and made our defense look silly. Nobody pressured him upfield and closed on him when he was running around all over the field. I saw no pressure from our interior lineman and the secondary exposed trying to cover people all over the field. I saw players completely out of position as evidenced by the spacing between the ball carrier and our defensive players. This is where coaching comes in. The adjustments should&#8217;ve been made at halftime. Tenuda is another bag of wind! He came over here to instill an aggressive swarming defense. I am pleased with the offense for the most part. We could do without the holding penalties etc. Weis is the head coach and is accountable for the entire football team not just the offense. His clock management down the stretch was brutal! He needs somebody standing next to him holding a clock on the sideline to remind him of the time left on the clock. There are no more excuses at this point. Several friends of mine are alumni and they are done with Charlie. They donate thousands to the university and the football program and have a lot of pull. Charlies days afre numbered and athletic director Swarbrick better come out from under the rock he is hiding under and man up! I&#8217;m out !</p>
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		<title>By: robertg</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 06:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[charlie and his staff will be at notre dame for as long as the want.these decisions have already been made by the people at notre dame who make such decisions. the phony email traffic from notre dame enemies&#039; looking for an advantage in the recuiting wars are the people who try to create the impression that charlie and his staff lack job security.
certain of those individuals guaranteed the public in writing, both in the south bend tribune and at nd central that they would get charlie fired last season. these people did succeed in driving away from notre dame a number of fine recruits. however, charlie is still around and still will be, long after these jerks are gone and forgotten.
in the charlie weis era, notre dame&#039;s student athletes, who also play football, have won national championships in gpas and graduation success rates every season since charlie arrived at notre dame and overcame impossible odds on the recruiting trails.
we all love lou holtz and always will. however lou did not have to overcome anything like the obstacles that charlie did when holtz came to notre dame.
just ask lou holtz and he will confirm these facts. among other factors, when lou arrived at notre dame, notre dame already had great talent at every position and the notre dame recruiting network was alive and providing a constant flow of new talent.
lou did not have to face the type of sophiticated crooked ref con operations which charlie and his staff and notre dame&#039;s student athletes have had to face every season since 2005.
on paper, lou&#039;s notre dame teams won 1 national championship and were robbed in 1989 and 1993 by pollsters, with crooked reffing playing a relatively minor role, compared to the present.
charlie and his staff and notre dame&#039;s student athletes who also play football have only one more real hurdule to overcome-the crooked reffing and rules enforcement at the conference and ncaa levels.
these are problems which charlie and his staff, notre dame&#039;s fine student athletes, and the notre dame admistration simply cannot solve of their own.
that is where we have the opportunity and the successful experierce in civil rico litigation to eliminate those ncaa and conference problems asap and to replace the current corrupt systems with honest and transparent high tech systems that do work.
fortunately, we have been doing exactly those things in other areas of human endeavor for over 30 years, including the enron and mci worldcom civil rico cases and driving crooked judges off the bench(2 of them . so far, have ended up in federal prisons) and cleaning up crooked courthouses.
courtesy of delany and david parry of the big 10 conference and an ncaa entity known as college football officiating llc( it has a website of the ame name), the crooked reffing con operation has gone nationwide and crosses conference lines so that it does not really matter which conferences refs are from until the underlying systemic problems are fixed from which conference the ref crews come. many refs in many conferences are for sale to the highest bidder and are shielded from punishment by the conferences and by the conferences and the by college football officiating llc on the ncaa and national levels, using claims of confidentiality and the ironically named sportmanship conduct rules by threatening coaches and student athletes with monetary and other sanctions if they complain publically about officiating.
there are many honest refs and tech reviewers. however, they find themselves fired if they do not cooperate and keep quiet.
there are olenty of schools in conferences, such as the ohio state buckeyes and joe paterno&#039;s penn state team of the big 10, that simply refuse to participate in the crooked free game.
those teams and their coaches and student athletes are consistently getting shafted by refs from their own conferences with big 10 commisioner jim delany and david parry and bill carollo of the big 10 providing cover for the crooked refs
in the pac 10,the situation is different. tom hansen resigned as commissioner after he suplied certain damning evidence.
however, hansen left behind him jim muldoon and dave cutaia, obviously based on the assumption that new commisioner. larry scott, could be kept on the road travelling, thereby permitting muldoon and cutaia and their staffs of crooked rers to proceed with their crooked reffing industry.
well, larry scott is proving to be a formidable obstacle to cinuing the corrupt practices at the pac 10.
there is not one conference that does not have some corrupt refs and conference officials to cover for them and that includes the big east conference.
we have no time or patience for ngitiations on these matters. either the responsible indiduviduals settle quickly or we can take them down in the civil courts.
we have the greatest admiration for charlie and his staff and for every student athletes for going out these and taking on both the oppostion and crooked refs while bwe are shiving the required reforms down the throats of the conferences and the ncaa.
it took us quite a while to understand how the business of college football works and to identify the individuals responsible for the curruption and the coverups and to find all of their assets.
that work being done, it is time for payback and fundamental changes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>charlie and his staff will be at notre dame for as long as the want.these decisions have already been made by the people at notre dame who make such decisions. the phony email traffic from notre dame enemies&#8217; looking for an advantage in the recuiting wars are the people who try to create the impression that charlie and his staff lack job security.<br />
certain of those individuals guaranteed the public in writing, both in the south bend tribune and at nd central that they would get charlie fired last season. these people did succeed in driving away from notre dame a number of fine recruits. however, charlie is still around and still will be, long after these jerks are gone and forgotten.<br />
in the charlie weis era, notre dame&#8217;s student athletes, who also play football, have won national championships in gpas and graduation success rates every season since charlie arrived at notre dame and overcame impossible odds on the recruiting trails.<br />
we all love lou holtz and always will. however lou did not have to overcome anything like the obstacles that charlie did when holtz came to notre dame.<br />
just ask lou holtz and he will confirm these facts. among other factors, when lou arrived at notre dame, notre dame already had great talent at every position and the notre dame recruiting network was alive and providing a constant flow of new talent.<br />
lou did not have to face the type of sophiticated crooked ref con operations which charlie and his staff and notre dame&#8217;s student athletes have had to face every season since 2005.<br />
on paper, lou&#8217;s notre dame teams won 1 national championship and were robbed in 1989 and 1993 by pollsters, with crooked reffing playing a relatively minor role, compared to the present.<br />
charlie and his staff and notre dame&#8217;s student athletes who also play football have only one more real hurdule to overcome-the crooked reffing and rules enforcement at the conference and ncaa levels.<br />
these are problems which charlie and his staff, notre dame&#8217;s fine student athletes, and the notre dame admistration simply cannot solve of their own.<br />
that is where we have the opportunity and the successful experierce in civil rico litigation to eliminate those ncaa and conference problems asap and to replace the current corrupt systems with honest and transparent high tech systems that do work.<br />
fortunately, we have been doing exactly those things in other areas of human endeavor for over 30 years, including the enron and mci worldcom civil rico cases and driving crooked judges off the bench(2 of them . so far, have ended up in federal prisons) and cleaning up crooked courthouses.<br />
courtesy of delany and david parry of the big 10 conference and an ncaa entity known as college football officiating llc( it has a website of the ame name), the crooked reffing con operation has gone nationwide and crosses conference lines so that it does not really matter which conferences refs are from until the underlying systemic problems are fixed from which conference the ref crews come. many refs in many conferences are for sale to the highest bidder and are shielded from punishment by the conferences and by the conferences and the by college football officiating llc on the ncaa and national levels, using claims of confidentiality and the ironically named sportmanship conduct rules by threatening coaches and student athletes with monetary and other sanctions if they complain publically about officiating.<br />
there are many honest refs and tech reviewers. however, they find themselves fired if they do not cooperate and keep quiet.<br />
there are olenty of schools in conferences, such as the ohio state buckeyes and joe paterno&#8217;s penn state team of the big 10, that simply refuse to participate in the crooked free game.<br />
those teams and their coaches and student athletes are consistently getting shafted by refs from their own conferences with big 10 commisioner jim delany and david parry and bill carollo of the big 10 providing cover for the crooked refs<br />
in the pac 10,the situation is different. tom hansen resigned as commissioner after he suplied certain damning evidence.<br />
however, hansen left behind him jim muldoon and dave cutaia, obviously based on the assumption that new commisioner. larry scott, could be kept on the road travelling, thereby permitting muldoon and cutaia and their staffs of crooked rers to proceed with their crooked reffing industry.<br />
well, larry scott is proving to be a formidable obstacle to cinuing the corrupt practices at the pac 10.<br />
there is not one conference that does not have some corrupt refs and conference officials to cover for them and that includes the big east conference.<br />
we have no time or patience for ngitiations on these matters. either the responsible indiduviduals settle quickly or we can take them down in the civil courts.<br />
we have the greatest admiration for charlie and his staff and for every student athletes for going out these and taking on both the oppostion and crooked refs while bwe are shiving the required reforms down the throats of the conferences and the ncaa.<br />
it took us quite a while to understand how the business of college football works and to identify the individuals responsible for the curruption and the coverups and to find all of their assets.<br />
that work being done, it is time for payback and fundamental changes.</p>
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		<title>By: aaron.hung at Taiwan</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am from Taiwan and have always been a dead hard Irish fan. I was watching or listening to radio for all the games live online getting up at 3:30AM every Saturday midnight for the past 14 years. I read about 10-20 articles about Irish every day including the offseason. I know each player&#039;s name and number, and each kid&#039;s name that we are recruiting even though it is so difficult to watch a game outside of United States, even though I am not mastering English and get lost when the commentators spoke too fast for a foreign like me.
That said, however my feel and love for Irish, I believe, is not less than anyone here.
There were big wins. There were disheartening lost. It makes me feel good or bad about my living, working for the following weeks before we start to pick up from next game.
But guess what, this does not really matters when I look back, and what is last much longer is not a lost, but something like Pass Right, some times to see a player&#039;s growth like Julios Jones, deep cares to Hugh&#039;s family like Hugh&#039;s have a big family with more than 100000 members globally, the classy act of the Irish teams and fans. The interview of Irish players really differ from other players from other school - and as a person who is outside of United States, I really do feel that differences better than you.
I felt lost when our team lost to Michigan, but I do really feel that good days are going to come, sooner than you think.
But all this really does not matters. We never left the glories, we&#039;ve always been there. Win or Lose.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am from Taiwan and have always been a dead hard Irish fan. I was watching or listening to radio for all the games live online getting up at 3:30AM every Saturday midnight for the past 14 years. I read about 10-20 articles about Irish every day including the offseason. I know each player&#8217;s name and number, and each kid&#8217;s name that we are recruiting even though it is so difficult to watch a game outside of United States, even though I am not mastering English and get lost when the commentators spoke too fast for a foreign like me.<br />
That said, however my feel and love for Irish, I believe, is not less than anyone here.<br />
There were big wins. There were disheartening lost. It makes me feel good or bad about my living, working for the following weeks before we start to pick up from next game.<br />
But guess what, this does not really matters when I look back, and what is last much longer is not a lost, but something like Pass Right, some times to see a player&#8217;s growth like Julios Jones, deep cares to Hugh&#8217;s family like Hugh&#8217;s have a big family with more than 100000 members globally, the classy act of the Irish teams and fans. The interview of Irish players really differ from other players from other school &#8211; and as a person who is outside of United States, I really do feel that differences better than you.<br />
I felt lost when our team lost to Michigan, but I do really feel that good days are going to come, sooner than you think.<br />
But all this really does not matters. We never left the glories, we&#8217;ve always been there. Win or Lose.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Kane</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[keith:
Charlie needs to return to the press box where he was for the Hawaii game. I think the discomfort of his leg injuries/surgery bothers him the 2nd half. He said his play calling wasn&#039;t as good the second half against Nevada and I concluded the sme thing against Michigan. I think it might help turn things around if he returned to the box.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>keith:<br />
Charlie needs to return to the press box where he was for the Hawaii game. I think the discomfort of his leg injuries/surgery bothers him the 2nd half. He said his play calling wasn&#8217;t as good the second half against Nevada and I concluded the sme thing against Michigan. I think it might help turn things around if he returned to the box.</p>
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		<title>By: GO IRISH !!!</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GO IRISH !!!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the love of our lady.. support our team and coach. We will have a great season. This one did sting but we will win over all.
Charlie has been to the biggest stage 4 times and knows how to win.
I trust his judgement and it was just a complex mixture of events that beat us. We still have a whole season ahead of us and all this headhunting will only make it worst. This loss early will go a long way to greatness far more than a loss twards the end.
Support our team!! CHEAR ON HIGH!!
Our Lady of Victory Pray for us.   GO  IRISH !!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the love of our lady.. support our team and coach. We will have a great season. This one did sting but we will win over all.<br />
Charlie has been to the biggest stage 4 times and knows how to win.<br />
I trust his judgement and it was just a complex mixture of events that beat us. We still have a whole season ahead of us and all this headhunting will only make it worst. This loss early will go a long way to greatness far more than a loss twards the end.<br />
Support our team!! CHEAR ON HIGH!!<br />
Our Lady of Victory Pray for us.   GO  IRISH !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Troyer</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Without Allen (thigh) and Floyd (knee) his options were pretty limited on that last drive. A missed interference call and a frosh WR who didn&#039;t finish his route were the difference in that last drive. Were you criticizing Weis when he was running up and down the field at will against MI for the rest of the game??? I personally was more upset at the lack of speed on the defensive side of the ball that gave MI big leads twice in the game! Grow up people and realize what you have in front of you. A great coach (and staff)and a great recruiter who is putting the pieces of this puzzle together right in front of you. Yeah they lost a game to MI and I was there and just as ticked as anyone.....but it&#039;s a rivalry game and anything can happen. Let&#039;s see what MSU has to offer before we start grabbing the axe. I for one am not ready to start over just yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without Allen (thigh) and Floyd (knee) his options were pretty limited on that last drive. A missed interference call and a frosh WR who didn&#8217;t finish his route were the difference in that last drive. Were you criticizing Weis when he was running up and down the field at will against MI for the rest of the game??? I personally was more upset at the lack of speed on the defensive side of the ball that gave MI big leads twice in the game! Grow up people and realize what you have in front of you. A great coach (and staff)and a great recruiter who is putting the pieces of this puzzle together right in front of you. Yeah they lost a game to MI and I was there and just as ticked as anyone&#8230;..but it&#8217;s a rivalry game and anything can happen. Let&#8217;s see what MSU has to offer before we start grabbing the axe. I for one am not ready to start over just yet.</p>
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		<title>By: AM</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed.  There are two ways to go out.  You can play not to lose, like a Jim Tressel or be aggressive and go for the win.  There are risks to both approaches, and both coaches lost Saturday. The difference is that one wears a sweater vest and the other let it all hang out.  I say go for the win.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  There are two ways to go out.  You can play not to lose, like a Jim Tressel or be aggressive and go for the win.  There are risks to both approaches, and both coaches lost Saturday. The difference is that one wears a sweater vest and the other let it all hang out.  I say go for the win.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodman</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hasn&#039;t Willingham been gone since 04, Hawk?  I believe this is Weiss&#039;s fifth season, no?  &quot;Good&quot; or not, the team you&#039;re seeing today was 100% recruited and built by CW.
Also, comparing the Michigan game to 2005&#039;s USC game isn&#039;t quite accurate because the Trojans were highly ranked AND a convincing 5 and 0 at the time, whereas the Wolverines are in 2nd year rebuilding mode (coming off a 3 and 9 &#039;08).  In other words, the Irish should&#039;ve won this game- they just didn&#039;t.  Blame cheating/bad/whatever refs, but if Notre Dame played at the level they SHOULD be at, none of that would have made a difference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasn&#8217;t Willingham been gone since 04, Hawk?  I believe this is Weiss&#8217;s fifth season, no?  &#8220;Good&#8221; or not, the team you&#8217;re seeing today was 100% recruited and built by CW.<br />
Also, comparing the Michigan game to 2005&#8242;s USC game isn&#8217;t quite accurate because the Trojans were highly ranked AND a convincing 5 and 0 at the time, whereas the Wolverines are in 2nd year rebuilding mode (coming off a 3 and 9 &#8217;08).  In other words, the Irish should&#8217;ve won this game- they just didn&#8217;t.  Blame cheating/bad/whatever refs, but if Notre Dame played at the level they SHOULD be at, none of that would have made a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawk</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hold on a second.  Have all the Cahrlie haters ever considered that maybe some of our players - particularly on defense - simply are not as good as our opponents?  Yet.
Have you forgotten the damage Willingham did to this program?
Have you forgotten what life was like for ND fans last September?
Give it a rest.  The program is in good hands.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold on a second.  Have all the Cahrlie haters ever considered that maybe some of our players &#8211; particularly on defense &#8211; simply are not as good as our opponents?  Yet.<br />
Have you forgotten the damage Willingham did to this program?<br />
Have you forgotten what life was like for ND fans last September?<br />
Give it a rest.  The program is in good hands.</p>
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		<title>By: DarinD</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This should be a teachable moment for ND.....The lesson being taught is that ND should have fired Weis last year! Weis,  although likeable is a bad motivator, leader, and head coach. The one good season that he had was with the players that Willingham recruited. Weis has five years to make a difference, so the question is has he?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This should be a teachable moment for ND&#8230;..The lesson being taught is that ND should have fired Weis last year! Weis,  although likeable is a bad motivator, leader, and head coach. The one good season that he had was with the players that Willingham recruited. Weis has five years to make a difference, so the question is has he?</p>
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		<title>By: Fitz</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[robertg was sorta correct in his post that &quot;urban meyer was never offered the coaching job at notre dame because urban insisted on concessions that notre dame would not make....&quot;  Although Meyer was never formally &quot;offered&quot; the ND job it was his if he wanted it...which he didn&#039;t when he didn&#039;t get the concessions he wanted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>robertg was sorta correct in his post that &#8220;urban meyer was never offered the coaching job at notre dame because urban insisted on concessions that notre dame would not make&#8230;.&#8221;  Although Meyer was never formally &#8220;offered&#8221; the ND job it was his if he wanted it&#8230;which he didn&#8217;t when he didn&#8217;t get the concessions he wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregizzo</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The website already exists just check ESPN, Foxsports, Rivals.com on any day for the last two seasons and I&#039;m sure you will be satisfied with the fire charlie club.  The second largest club is &quot;bash the big 10&quot; club along with &quot;Kiss Pete Carrolls backside club&quot;.  I suggest you check it out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The website already exists just check ESPN, Foxsports, Rivals.com on any day for the last two seasons and I&#8217;m sure you will be satisfied with the fire charlie club.  The second largest club is &#8220;bash the big 10&#8243; club along with &#8220;Kiss Pete Carrolls backside club&#8221;.  I suggest you check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Irishman</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charlie needs to go! We have seen alomost five years of the stupidity with this program. I am a life time ND fan since the Joe Montana days. I am at the end of my rope with Weis who doesn&#039;t have one signature win since he took over the job as head coach. W e were all lulled into a false sense when he came over from the NFL with the Patriots and three Super Bowl rings etc. Weis is not a good college coach and apparently hasn&#039;t learned over the past few years. The loss on Saturday was brutal to say the least. They let a 180 lb freshman QB run all over the field and embarrass them in the &quot;Big Mouse&quot; not the &quot;Big House&quot;. Would a Lou Holtz coachwed team lost the game on Saturday? I dont think so! Lou was one of the best big game coaches in America. Somebody needs to start a website  WWW.FIRECHARLIE.COM]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie needs to go! We have seen alomost five years of the stupidity with this program. I am a life time ND fan since the Joe Montana days. I am at the end of my rope with Weis who doesn&#8217;t have one signature win since he took over the job as head coach. W e were all lulled into a false sense when he came over from the NFL with the Patriots and three Super Bowl rings etc. Weis is not a good college coach and apparently hasn&#8217;t learned over the past few years. The loss on Saturday was brutal to say the least. They let a 180 lb freshman QB run all over the field and embarrass them in the &#8220;Big Mouse&#8221; not the &#8220;Big House&#8221;. Would a Lou Holtz coachwed team lost the game on Saturday? I dont think so! Lou was one of the best big game coaches in America. Somebody needs to start a website  <a href="http://WWW.FIRECHARLIE.COM" rel="nofollow">http://WWW.FIRECHARLIE.COM</a></p>
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		<title>By: colin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[will anyone really be crying for charlie to leave if the irish end the season 10-2.  besides usc, notre dame has a real good shot at winning the rest of their games.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will anyone really be crying for charlie to leave if the irish end the season 10-2.  besides usc, notre dame has a real good shot at winning the rest of their games.</p>
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		<title>By: gregizzo</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The article is good! The fact of the matter is the game should have been over at halftime.  The game should have been out of reach and the only thing Charlie should have had to worry about was who was he going give game experince to.  Clausen was a statue in the backfield the whole first half, nobody touch him, he could have written a paper, drank some water, and still had time to throw a pass.  The fact that is 20-17 at the half is when the problems started for the Irish not in the 4th quater.  Michigan had no answer for anything Notre Dame did on offense. Notre Dame should of hung sixty on the wolverines that is fact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article is good! The fact of the matter is the game should have been over at halftime.  The game should have been out of reach and the only thing Charlie should have had to worry about was who was he going give game experince to.  Clausen was a statue in the backfield the whole first half, nobody touch him, he could have written a paper, drank some water, and still had time to throw a pass.  The fact that is 20-17 at the half is when the problems started for the Irish not in the 4th quater.  Michigan had no answer for anything Notre Dame did on offense. Notre Dame should of hung sixty on the wolverines that is fact.</p>
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		<title>By: hondo</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was one of the most disappointing losses we have experienced lately and emotions are at a fever pitch. This is understandable, however, I think we have to get behind and stay behind our present coach and give him our support. Why? 5 reasons:
1) He gave a very plausible explanation as to why he felt he had to throw the ball at the end of the game,
2) Our offense was very potent against Michigan and the arrow is continuing to point up. If we had pulled out the win, people would be gushing about another great performance by our QB and Allen&#039;s first real rushing statement. These great performances were unfortunately overshadowed by the outcome,
3) A BCS season is still possible and if we get a good bowl game, Weis will have a 60% success rate at that (3 times in his 5 years is not too shabby),
4) The guy is a master at recruiting. I have friends that say Urban is a better recruiter but that is comparing apples to criminals. Could Urban Meyer be any more effective a recruiter if he could only take players that had the capacity to actually graduate? Also, there are recruits out there who follow these boards as avidly as we do, so we should show a lot more support for CW, and last but not least,
5) He is a good guy as evidenced by things like Pass Right, Hannah Foundation, other charity work, etc. He exemplifies the qualities we would like to see in every person and he is an excellent example and mentor to his student athletes.
The only thing I can really knock him on is his penchant toward gambling in certain situations. He has gone for it on 4th down more than any human being I&#039;ve ever seen. When it works, we all love it and he&#039;s the hero but when it doesn&#039;t, he&#039;s the goat. Which brings me back to reason #1 above.
If Golden catches that pass or the ref had the decency to make a good call and throw the flag for pass interference, his gamble would have paid off again, game over, case closed. I have to say I really don&#039;t know how I feel about that issue because when he does take a gamble and it pays off, I&#039;m the first one to cheer for the team. But it&#039;s risky and as the old saying goes, &quot;That&#039;s why they call it gambling.&quot; It is particularly hard to accept when the outcome of the game turns on his gamble and that&#039;s what happened on Saturday.
That, and oh yeah our defense really stunk up the field. Can&#039;t these guys tackle effectively? And Darius Fleming....the commentator even noted that his jock was left on the field after that fake out by Forcier on his TD scramble. We were always taught to look at the hips when tackling. You can be fooled by a head fake, arm, etc but your hips always go with you. Well, enough rambling on, it doesn&#039;t change what happened. However,I am fully behind Weis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was one of the most disappointing losses we have experienced lately and emotions are at a fever pitch. This is understandable, however, I think we have to get behind and stay behind our present coach and give him our support. Why? 5 reasons:<br />
1) He gave a very plausible explanation as to why he felt he had to throw the ball at the end of the game,<br />
2) Our offense was very potent against Michigan and the arrow is continuing to point up. If we had pulled out the win, people would be gushing about another great performance by our QB and Allen&#8217;s first real rushing statement. These great performances were unfortunately overshadowed by the outcome,<br />
3) A BCS season is still possible and if we get a good bowl game, Weis will have a 60% success rate at that (3 times in his 5 years is not too shabby),<br />
4) The guy is a master at recruiting. I have friends that say Urban is a better recruiter but that is comparing apples to criminals. Could Urban Meyer be any more effective a recruiter if he could only take players that had the capacity to actually graduate? Also, there are recruits out there who follow these boards as avidly as we do, so we should show a lot more support for CW, and last but not least,<br />
5) He is a good guy as evidenced by things like Pass Right, Hannah Foundation, other charity work, etc. He exemplifies the qualities we would like to see in every person and he is an excellent example and mentor to his student athletes.<br />
The only thing I can really knock him on is his penchant toward gambling in certain situations. He has gone for it on 4th down more than any human being I&#8217;ve ever seen. When it works, we all love it and he&#8217;s the hero but when it doesn&#8217;t, he&#8217;s the goat. Which brings me back to reason #1 above.<br />
If Golden catches that pass or the ref had the decency to make a good call and throw the flag for pass interference, his gamble would have paid off again, game over, case closed. I have to say I really don&#8217;t know how I feel about that issue because when he does take a gamble and it pays off, I&#8217;m the first one to cheer for the team. But it&#8217;s risky and as the old saying goes, &#8220;That&#8217;s why they call it gambling.&#8221; It is particularly hard to accept when the outcome of the game turns on his gamble and that&#8217;s what happened on Saturday.<br />
That, and oh yeah our defense really stunk up the field. Can&#8217;t these guys tackle effectively? And Darius Fleming&#8230;.the commentator even noted that his jock was left on the field after that fake out by Forcier on his TD scramble. We were always taught to look at the hips when tackling. You can be fooled by a head fake, arm, etc but your hips always go with you. Well, enough rambling on, it doesn&#8217;t change what happened. However,I am fully behind Weis.</p>
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		<title>By: Mas</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those of you wanting Charlie gone, be prepared for more Ty type recruiting classes.  Oh Boy!  Charlie gives ND the BEST chance to win.  He gambled and lost.  But it wasn&#039;t the offense that lost this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you wanting Charlie gone, be prepared for more Ty type recruiting classes.  Oh Boy!  Charlie gives ND the BEST chance to win.  He gambled and lost.  But it wasn&#8217;t the offense that lost this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Majerek</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CW is our coach.  It&#039;s his team.  Win, lose, or draw, I say he has at least another year.  I had predicted we were a year away and it appears I may be right.  We need another year to mature that D line.  If Charlie can&#039;t put it together next year - 11-1 or 12-0 - with THAT team (okay, he&#039;s getting a pass with a 10-2 year).  Then look around.  At that point we have a QB (Crist) with 3 years of Weis tutelage and 2 years of eligibility and a roster of Weis recruits who seem to be fine ND men and atheletes.  Whe all things are rebalanced in the universe, we will win again!  We will dominate again!  Because?  WE ARE ND... and they&#039;re not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CW is our coach.  It&#8217;s his team.  Win, lose, or draw, I say he has at least another year.  I had predicted we were a year away and it appears I may be right.  We need another year to mature that D line.  If Charlie can&#8217;t put it together next year &#8211; 11-1 or 12-0 &#8211; with THAT team (okay, he&#8217;s getting a pass with a 10-2 year).  Then look around.  At that point we have a QB (Crist) with 3 years of Weis tutelage and 2 years of eligibility and a roster of Weis recruits who seem to be fine ND men and atheletes.  Whe all things are rebalanced in the universe, we will win again!  We will dominate again!  Because?  WE ARE ND&#8230; and they&#8217;re not.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charlie Weis is a very good coach and he can get the job done.  In fact, I am still expecting a lot of wins and a BCS bowl.
He loves Notre Dame just as much as I do.
Right now we have to focus on the Spartans and beating them will be no easy task.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie Weis is a very good coach and he can get the job done.  In fact, I am still expecting a lot of wins and a BCS bowl.<br />
He loves Notre Dame just as much as I do.<br />
Right now we have to focus on the Spartans and beating them will be no easy task.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Irish</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We were just one catch away from a win at Michigan.  Now we need to play Michigan State and make every catch instead of dropping them.  Plain and simple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were just one catch away from a win at Michigan.  Now we need to play Michigan State and make every catch instead of dropping them.  Plain and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Shaheen</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A successful head football coach at the University of Notre Dame must be a master of motivation as well as a task master.  Lou Holtz was a success not only because he was a great motivator but more so because his teams feared him.  He was relentless, he never gave up.  He did not tolerate anything less than perfection.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A successful head football coach at the University of Notre Dame must be a master of motivation as well as a task master.  Lou Holtz was a success not only because he was a great motivator but more so because his teams feared him.  He was relentless, he never gave up.  He did not tolerate anything less than perfection.</p>
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		<title>By: robertg</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[keith,
you really should watch the 2009 michigan/notre dame game, the 2006 michigan/ notre dame game, and the 2005 notre dame/usc game again several times.
but, before you do so, try reading the ncaa rules 1st and then focus on the refs and the penalties called and not called by crooked ref crews in the case of each game. in the case of the 2005 usc game and the 2009 michigan game, pay special attention to the illegal manipulation of the game clock by those crooked refs. in the case of the 2006 michigan game, pay special attention to the illegal manipulation of the play clock by crooked ref denis lipski of the big 10, which was done to throw off notre dame&#039;s offensive and defensive rythms and did, along with other dishonest penalty calls and non calls by that same crooked ref crew alter the outcome of that game and make the game appear to be a blowout win by michigan.
despite the fact that charlie and his staff and the notre dame team got cheated out of wins by crooked refs in each of those games, charlie and his staff and notre dame&#039;s student athletes had no trouble putting those paper losses behind them and making it to 2 bcs bowls in a row in 2005 and 2006 with great talent at some positions, little talent at other positions and zero depth anywhere.
you may perceive that you were flooded with emails from notre dame fans and alums questioning charlie&#039;s coaching ability.
however, not one of those emailers presented any proof that they were really notre dame alums or fans.
this type of phony email traffic is generated by notre dame enemies and those who work for them, such as eric hansen of the south bend tribune and his associates at some so called notre dame fan sites who try to gouge money from real notre dame fans in return for phony information and also accept favors from people like pete carroll and notre dame&#039;s competitors in the recruiting wars who try to persuade recruits that they should not commit to notre dame because the jobs of charlie and his staff are not secure.
charlie and his staff have done everyting that notre dame has asked and much more.
charlie and his staff have brought the notre dame recruiting network back from the dead. they have done so with very hard work and with honesty and integrity and without compromising notre dame&#039;s very high academic and character standards.
some people at notre dame who no longer have any say about notre dame football did have some discussions with urban meyer before charlie was chosen by the people who now make all decisions about football at notre dame, each of whom is a notre dame alum who had great success at notre dame in the classroom, on the football field, in the nfl, and in life after the nfl.
urban meyer was never offered the coaching job at notre dame because urban insisted on concessions that notre dame would not make, such as special easy courses for football players and special athlete only dorms which urban has the use of at florida to park those football players who want no part of real academic obligations or the type of limitations on their off campus activities which exist at notre dame for purposes of character and real academic skills development, but which are not requirements at florida.
some people look at urban meyer as a great football coach and he is that. however, not one of the people who now make football decisions at notre dame suffers from any delusions that urban meyer could possibly have achieved that success at notre dame under notre dame&#039;s rules.
urban belongs at florida. urban was, and remains, afraid to take on the task that charlie and his staff and notre dame&#039;s student athletes take on every season.
with florida alums having great influence within the sec conference, urban does not have to be concerned about crooked reffing in sec games and he fills his non conference slate with complete cupcakes.
urban may be a fine man and a fine college football coach. however, urban could never be an acceptable coach for notre dame. charlie and his staff and notre dame&#039;s student athletes and their support systems within notre dame consistently give notre dame a top 5 graduation success rate among the schools playing bcs division football while florida ranks way back in the dust.
when you factor out the courses which have no real academic contentwhich exist at places like florida and lsu and usc,but never at notre dame, the gap becomes deeper than the grand canyon.
all of these factors have to do with the respect that notre dame has for the futures of every notre dame student, whether or not they are also student athletes.
using great high school athletes for athletic abilities only and then casting them out into the world with zero marketable skills if the nfl or the nba does not work out is a road that notre dame will never take.
every student athlete who stays the course at notre dame leaves with one or more degrees in areas that provide him or her with excellent marketable skills and the ability to protect themselves from crooked agents and financial advisors  when they do make the nfl or the pros in other sports, something which will become more and more common in football now that charlie and his staff have brought notre dame recruiting back to life.
the people who now make all football decisions at notre dame are people who have no trouble identifying any game stolen by crooked refs and none of these people sent you any emails questioning charlie&#039;s coaching decisions or abilities.
notre dame now has great talent and speed at every position, along with depth of talent, and experience for this and future seasons.
the only exception is the youth and relative inexperience on the dline, but there is no lack of talent or speed at those positions either with bryant young&#039;s and coach hart&#039;s presences being invaluable to quick maturity.
but for the crooked ref problem, this notre dame team could easily have run the table and won a national championship.
with one highly questionable loss and much more pressure and scrutiny on the crooked refs, running the rest of the table and winning a bcs game is highly likely.
however, until we eliminate the crooked ref industry completely in the civil courts, something which we have more than enough evidence to do now, well before the 2010 season begins, notre dame, as an independent, will be facing a number of games in which crooked reffing will be a factor.
charlie and his staff understand that, every notre dame student athlete understands that, and so does every person who now has any real decision making power about notre dame football.
but for charlie&#039;s immense success and coaching abilities, other schools would not have to resort to buying crooked refs in games against notre dame.
now that charlie and his staff and notre dame&#039;s student athletes who also play football, we will put an end to the crooked reffing industry and replace it with an honest high tech system transparent to the public.
having brought down really sophisticated con operations such as enron and mci worldcom and having learned in depth about the game and business of college football and thje crooked ref con operation since the fall of 2005, we are fully prepared to take wrecking balls to the current conference and ncaa rules enforcement and reffing systems and to replace them with honest high tech systems for the benefit of every student athlete at notre dame and at every other school.
we congratulate you on surviving that 1st big wave of hostile email traffic. it is something that comes with the territory of running an honest nd central and an honest notre dame football program.
the uscs and the floridas and the lsus and michigans of this world are terrified that notre dame will succeed using notre dame&#039;s rules and standards.
wnen that happens, these other schools will lose all the student athletes with intelligence to the notre dames and stanfords and boston colleges of the college football world.
GO IRISH!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>keith,<br />
you really should watch the 2009 michigan/notre dame game, the 2006 michigan/ notre dame game, and the 2005 notre dame/usc game again several times.<br />
but, before you do so, try reading the ncaa rules 1st and then focus on the refs and the penalties called and not called by crooked ref crews in the case of each game. in the case of the 2005 usc game and the 2009 michigan game, pay special attention to the illegal manipulation of the game clock by those crooked refs. in the case of the 2006 michigan game, pay special attention to the illegal manipulation of the play clock by crooked ref denis lipski of the big 10, which was done to throw off notre dame&#8217;s offensive and defensive rythms and did, along with other dishonest penalty calls and non calls by that same crooked ref crew alter the outcome of that game and make the game appear to be a blowout win by michigan.<br />
despite the fact that charlie and his staff and the notre dame team got cheated out of wins by crooked refs in each of those games, charlie and his staff and notre dame&#8217;s student athletes had no trouble putting those paper losses behind them and making it to 2 bcs bowls in a row in 2005 and 2006 with great talent at some positions, little talent at other positions and zero depth anywhere.<br />
you may perceive that you were flooded with emails from notre dame fans and alums questioning charlie&#8217;s coaching ability.<br />
however, not one of those emailers presented any proof that they were really notre dame alums or fans.<br />
this type of phony email traffic is generated by notre dame enemies and those who work for them, such as eric hansen of the south bend tribune and his associates at some so called notre dame fan sites who try to gouge money from real notre dame fans in return for phony information and also accept favors from people like pete carroll and notre dame&#8217;s competitors in the recruiting wars who try to persuade recruits that they should not commit to notre dame because the jobs of charlie and his staff are not secure.<br />
charlie and his staff have done everyting that notre dame has asked and much more.<br />
charlie and his staff have brought the notre dame recruiting network back from the dead. they have done so with very hard work and with honesty and integrity and without compromising notre dame&#8217;s very high academic and character standards.<br />
some people at notre dame who no longer have any say about notre dame football did have some discussions with urban meyer before charlie was chosen by the people who now make all decisions about football at notre dame, each of whom is a notre dame alum who had great success at notre dame in the classroom, on the football field, in the nfl, and in life after the nfl.<br />
urban meyer was never offered the coaching job at notre dame because urban insisted on concessions that notre dame would not make, such as special easy courses for football players and special athlete only dorms which urban has the use of at florida to park those football players who want no part of real academic obligations or the type of limitations on their off campus activities which exist at notre dame for purposes of character and real academic skills development, but which are not requirements at florida.<br />
some people look at urban meyer as a great football coach and he is that. however, not one of the people who now make football decisions at notre dame suffers from any delusions that urban meyer could possibly have achieved that success at notre dame under notre dame&#8217;s rules.<br />
urban belongs at florida. urban was, and remains, afraid to take on the task that charlie and his staff and notre dame&#8217;s student athletes take on every season.<br />
with florida alums having great influence within the sec conference, urban does not have to be concerned about crooked reffing in sec games and he fills his non conference slate with complete cupcakes.<br />
urban may be a fine man and a fine college football coach. however, urban could never be an acceptable coach for notre dame. charlie and his staff and notre dame&#8217;s student athletes and their support systems within notre dame consistently give notre dame a top 5 graduation success rate among the schools playing bcs division football while florida ranks way back in the dust.<br />
when you factor out the courses which have no real academic contentwhich exist at places like florida and lsu and usc,but never at notre dame, the gap becomes deeper than the grand canyon.<br />
all of these factors have to do with the respect that notre dame has for the futures of every notre dame student, whether or not they are also student athletes.<br />
using great high school athletes for athletic abilities only and then casting them out into the world with zero marketable skills if the nfl or the nba does not work out is a road that notre dame will never take.<br />
every student athlete who stays the course at notre dame leaves with one or more degrees in areas that provide him or her with excellent marketable skills and the ability to protect themselves from crooked agents and financial advisors  when they do make the nfl or the pros in other sports, something which will become more and more common in football now that charlie and his staff have brought notre dame recruiting back to life.<br />
the people who now make all football decisions at notre dame are people who have no trouble identifying any game stolen by crooked refs and none of these people sent you any emails questioning charlie&#8217;s coaching decisions or abilities.<br />
notre dame now has great talent and speed at every position, along with depth of talent, and experience for this and future seasons.<br />
the only exception is the youth and relative inexperience on the dline, but there is no lack of talent or speed at those positions either with bryant young&#8217;s and coach hart&#8217;s presences being invaluable to quick maturity.<br />
but for the crooked ref problem, this notre dame team could easily have run the table and won a national championship.<br />
with one highly questionable loss and much more pressure and scrutiny on the crooked refs, running the rest of the table and winning a bcs game is highly likely.<br />
however, until we eliminate the crooked ref industry completely in the civil courts, something which we have more than enough evidence to do now, well before the 2010 season begins, notre dame, as an independent, will be facing a number of games in which crooked reffing will be a factor.<br />
charlie and his staff understand that, every notre dame student athlete understands that, and so does every person who now has any real decision making power about notre dame football.<br />
but for charlie&#8217;s immense success and coaching abilities, other schools would not have to resort to buying crooked refs in games against notre dame.<br />
now that charlie and his staff and notre dame&#8217;s student athletes who also play football, we will put an end to the crooked reffing industry and replace it with an honest high tech system transparent to the public.<br />
having brought down really sophisticated con operations such as enron and mci worldcom and having learned in depth about the game and business of college football and thje crooked ref con operation since the fall of 2005, we are fully prepared to take wrecking balls to the current conference and ncaa rules enforcement and reffing systems and to replace them with honest high tech systems for the benefit of every student athlete at notre dame and at every other school.<br />
we congratulate you on surviving that 1st big wave of hostile email traffic. it is something that comes with the territory of running an honest nd central and an honest notre dame football program.<br />
the uscs and the floridas and the lsus and michigans of this world are terrified that notre dame will succeed using notre dame&#8217;s rules and standards.<br />
wnen that happens, these other schools will lose all the student athletes with intelligence to the notre dames and stanfords and boston colleges of the college football world.<br />
GO IRISH!!!</p>
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		<title>By: tom doyle</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is trult sad that everyone is missing the big picture. NOTRE DAME gets robbed by hometown officals again. NOTRE DAME will never win a big game again because of the officals.Ibelieve the NCAA has mandated that n.d. not be given a fare shake on calls I say this because anyone who knows anything about football can see the bad calls agains&#039;t N.D.,always stalling a drive or calling back a T.D..Had the officals looked at armando allens T.D. from the back side they would of seen his foot was not on the line,from what they saw how could they rule his foot was on the line;bad call again.On every play the refs should of calledholding on michigans defense on golden tate or michael floyd! Pat haden even commented on how michigan was getting away with these no calls! Then cry baby rodriguez runs on the field complaining about a call. Thats a 15yard penalty no debate, thats the rule, no call again. THE WORST AND THE SADIEST Game was when reggie bush pushes his quarterback matt leinart over the goal line a clear,not a debatable rule a 15yard penalty- no call by the pac 10 officals,SAD!! But the truly sad thing is the college game day crew Laugh it off as a big JOKE [HA, HA, BUSH CHEATED and they won the game] So again we prove to the world we are a nation of cheaters who have to win at all cost. The NCAA has not lifted a finger or suspended any offical for outwardly favoring one team over another.Until someone investigates the officiating of all N.D. gamesfor the last 5years and sees the same pattern over and over than N.D.willnever win a big game again.The only way theycould win is to buy there own officals!! NO Officals in this game N.D. wins 48-38 TWO Touchdowns called back how absurd can you get! TWO Touchdowns called back in one game don&#039;t that make you think whats wrong with this picture!! The Reason the NCAA is black balling N.D. is because of its refusal to join the big 10 and make a super conference!!! PETE Carroll walks up and down the sidelines at he wishes! you not surpose to go past your 40yard line or your opponents 40yard line  thats called the coaches box I have seen his coaches on the goal line giving instructions to his players? Many times I thought he had people in the stands radioing back other teams defenses or giving hand signals, but if your coaches are standing right next to the players, youcan just tell them what to do.ALSO carroll plays up to the refs. Before each game[hey uncle joe or hey uncle bob are you going to give me the calls today, really sad shows no respect for the other colleges.  ONE THING MORE  after N.D. is robbed at home by m.s. on a bad call,ALL N.D. fans and ALUMNI  AND Students should stop going to games, stop watching games. If enough N.D. fans do this, and N.D. Loses money and the NCAA loses money maybe something will finally get done. I have taped NOTRE DAME games since 1988, if they get robbed this saturday it will be the last college football game Iwill ever watch!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is trult sad that everyone is missing the big picture. NOTRE DAME gets robbed by hometown officals again. NOTRE DAME will never win a big game again because of the officals.Ibelieve the NCAA has mandated that n.d. not be given a fare shake on calls I say this because anyone who knows anything about football can see the bad calls agains&#8217;t N.D.,always stalling a drive or calling back a T.D..Had the officals looked at armando allens T.D. from the back side they would of seen his foot was not on the line,from what they saw how could they rule his foot was on the line;bad call again.On every play the refs should of calledholding on michigans defense on golden tate or michael floyd! Pat haden even commented on how michigan was getting away with these no calls! Then cry baby rodriguez runs on the field complaining about a call. Thats a 15yard penalty no debate, thats the rule, no call again. THE WORST AND THE SADIEST Game was when reggie bush pushes his quarterback matt leinart over the goal line a clear,not a debatable rule a 15yard penalty- no call by the pac 10 officals,SAD!! But the truly sad thing is the college game day crew Laugh it off as a big JOKE [HA, HA, BUSH CHEATED and they won the game] So again we prove to the world we are a nation of cheaters who have to win at all cost. The NCAA has not lifted a finger or suspended any offical for outwardly favoring one team over another.Until someone investigates the officiating of all N.D. gamesfor the last 5years and sees the same pattern over and over than N.D.willnever win a big game again.The only way theycould win is to buy there own officals!! NO Officals in this game N.D. wins 48-38 TWO Touchdowns called back how absurd can you get! TWO Touchdowns called back in one game don&#8217;t that make you think whats wrong with this picture!! The Reason the NCAA is black balling N.D. is because of its refusal to join the big 10 and make a super conference!!! PETE Carroll walks up and down the sidelines at he wishes! you not surpose to go past your 40yard line or your opponents 40yard line  thats called the coaches box I have seen his coaches on the goal line giving instructions to his players? Many times I thought he had people in the stands radioing back other teams defenses or giving hand signals, but if your coaches are standing right next to the players, youcan just tell them what to do.ALSO carroll plays up to the refs. Before each game[hey uncle joe or hey uncle bob are you going to give me the calls today, really sad shows no respect for the other colleges.  ONE THING MORE  after N.D. is robbed at home by m.s. on a bad call,ALL N.D. fans and ALUMNI  AND Students should stop going to games, stop watching games. If enough N.D. fans do this, and N.D. Loses money and the NCAA loses money maybe something will finally get done. I have taped NOTRE DAME games since 1988, if they get robbed this saturday it will be the last college football game Iwill ever watch!!!</p>
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		<title>By: robertg</title>
		<link>http://irish.nbcsports.com/2009/09/14/turning-the-page/comment-page-1/#comment-419</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 05:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[keith,
we have every confidence in charlie, in his staff, and in every student athletes at notre dame who also plays football.
contrary to some of the trash that has crept into nd central from the usual suspects, everyone who really has anything to say in decisions about notre dame football shares in that confidence.
the only people who should be concerned are the crooked refs and those who have providing cover for them for many years.
like the former big shots at enron and mci worldcom and other business scams, we will be relieving them all of their material possessions in the civil courts.
GO IRISH!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>keith,<br />
we have every confidence in charlie, in his staff, and in every student athletes at notre dame who also plays football.<br />
contrary to some of the trash that has crept into nd central from the usual suspects, everyone who really has anything to say in decisions about notre dame football shares in that confidence.<br />
the only people who should be concerned are the crooked refs and those who have providing cover for them for many years.<br />
like the former big shots at enron and mci worldcom and other business scams, we will be relieving them all of their material possessions in the civil courts.<br />
GO IRISH!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Big Ron</title>
		<link>http://irish.nbcsports.com/2009/09/14/turning-the-page/comment-page-1/#comment-418</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We love coach Weis love USC]]></description>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Urban Myer please!]]></description>
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		<title>By: Pete from Cary, NC</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Keith, It&#039;s OK to quote Weis from 2005 after their loss to USC. The overall tone was to learn from that game and move on. One big problem with that though. It was never expected that ND would beat USC because the Trojans were more talented. ND was winning on emotion and Brady&#039;s arm before they lost it. In last Saturday&#039;s game against Michigan,  the Irish WERE expected to win because they do have more talent than the guys from the big house.  That is why this loss hurts more than 20 kicks to the head.  Yes, there were many errors on both sides of the ball and there were a couple of bad calls. However, the game was lost on the sidelines.  How can this guy Weis give the impression that he is an offensive genius but when it comes to crunch time he acts and calls plays like a moron. In the last minutes of the game, you want ball control to eat clock. I am not saying you cannot throw the ball in those situations but why all the way down the field? How about 10-15 yards down field and keep ownership of the ball? This loss cost them BCS bid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith, It&#8217;s OK to quote Weis from 2005 after their loss to USC. The overall tone was to learn from that game and move on. One big problem with that though. It was never expected that ND would beat USC because the Trojans were more talented. ND was winning on emotion and Brady&#8217;s arm before they lost it. In last Saturday&#8217;s game against Michigan,  the Irish WERE expected to win because they do have more talent than the guys from the big house.  That is why this loss hurts more than 20 kicks to the head.  Yes, there were many errors on both sides of the ball and there were a couple of bad calls. However, the game was lost on the sidelines.  How can this guy Weis give the impression that he is an offensive genius but when it comes to crunch time he acts and calls plays like a moron. In the last minutes of the game, you want ball control to eat clock. I am not saying you cannot throw the ball in those situations but why all the way down the field? How about 10-15 yards down field and keep ownership of the ball? This loss cost them BCS bid.</p>
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		<title>By: Fitz</title>
		<link>http://irish.nbcsports.com/2009/09/14/turning-the-page/comment-page-1/#comment-415</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I admire your loyaty in standing behind Weis as the ND coach, but I think you miss a very salient point. The UM game was one of those &quot;should have, could have, would have&quot; games that ND didn&#039;t win. Every team has those from time to time, but under Weis ND has had far too many games they lost where they &quot;should have, could have, would have&quot; won. This is a reflection on coaching - not just in-game coaching/decisions, but encompassing all aspects of head coaching. The guy just doesn&#039;t have it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admire your loyaty in standing behind Weis as the ND coach, but I think you miss a very salient point. The UM game was one of those &#8220;should have, could have, would have&#8221; games that ND didn&#8217;t win. Every team has those from time to time, but under Weis ND has had far too many games they lost where they &#8220;should have, could have, would have&#8221; won. This is a reflection on coaching &#8211; not just in-game coaching/decisions, but encompassing all aspects of head coaching. The guy just doesn&#8217;t have it.</p>
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