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Irish athletes top NCAA Graduation Success Rate

Nov 18, 2009, 8:38 PM EST

Notre Dame athletes lead the NCAA in the 2009 NCAA Graduation Success Rate Survey, the NCAA announced yesterday evening.

Nineteen of the 22 Irish teams posted graduation rates of 100 percent and none fell below 93 percent. All 11 women’s programs graduated 100 percent of their athletes.

Men’s baseball, basketball, cross country/track fencing, golf, lacrosse, soccer, and swimming/diving scored a perfect 100, while the football and hockey programs each scored a 96 and the tennis team earned a 93.

The Notre Dame football team lead all FBS programs along with Duke at 96. The Naval Academy checked in at 93, Northwestern at 92, and Boston College and Vanderbilt followed at 91.

There are only 11 schools where 50 percent or more of their sports teams scored a perfect GSR rating. The Irish led that group convincingly with 19 out of 22 teams. Boston College was second with 22 of 28 teams.

  1. TLNDMA - Nov 18, 2009 at 11:17 PM

    A thought. We might only see Golden Tate for two more games. As we haven’t seen a player like him since 1990, we should try to appreciate what we are seeing. Though his time in the spotlght has been short, his deeds have been extraordinary.

  2. MIKE - Nov 19, 2009 at 7:11 AM

    If you go to espn chicago you will hear him say that he will stay if TOUCHDOWN CHARLIE is back next year. Also rumor has it that ND will lose several blue chip recruits if he is gone. Do we really want to go through all the rebuilding again?? ONE MORE YEAR CHARLIE!! I also want to tell you guys that i live 700 miles away and can only go to one game a year. Last year was syracuse and the year before was navy very disappointing games to say the least! And even if we lose Saturday and I go 0-3 we should still bring him back. HE is a great person and an even better coach! WE STILL LOVE YOU CHARLIE…OR AT LEAST THOSE WITH SOME INTELLIGENCE DO!!!

  3. bill in shanghai - Nov 19, 2009 at 7:25 AM

    Changing coaches now would be a total crap shoot.
    By the way, I could really care less about football graduation rates. They were good enough in the years we were winning. If you want to be the top school in footballers graduating,stop dreaming about ever being a serious NCS contender.
    Firing Charlie will only steepen our decline.

  4. Mackay Rippey - Nov 19, 2009 at 7:27 AM

    What other school has the tennis team be a drag on graduation rates? LOL!

  5. mrrandolph - Nov 19, 2009 at 7:44 AM

    If you feel that CW is not the man for the job, let him go. If Clausen and Tate or anyone else is going to leave, they will leave regardless if CW is back or not.
    CW is not the only man that can recruit. Nebraska recruited well for years. TCU does. Utah did under Urban and still does well. BYU. Ole Miss under Ed Orgeron. Tenn in the Mountains of East Tn (how in the world do you talk an inner city kid to come play in the mountains). they use(90′s) to recruit well at Colorado. Oregon does ok. not to mention Iowa and other small population center schools.

  6. dan - Nov 19, 2009 at 8:22 AM

    way to go student athletes. you are at college to learn and play. be proud of yourselves.
    *note removing this comment only one of 5 comments on this page have anything to do with the article

  7. TLNDMA - Nov 19, 2009 at 8:33 AM

    Dan, that’s 20%, about equal to an SEC graduation rate.

  8. mike - Nov 19, 2009 at 10:37 AM

    So even though golden says he will stay if charlie stays you don’t believe that? So you are calling him a liar? Am I understanding you right?

  9. mrrandolph - Nov 19, 2009 at 2:20 PM

    No you did not hear me right. I said “If Clausen and Tate or anyone else is going to leave, they will leave regardless if CW is back or not.” If they are going to leave,they are going to leave.
    Vince Young told Mack Brown he was staying in school his senior year also and he left.
    Alot of coaches right now are telling the kids they recruit they will be at their schools for their entire four years.
    Are they lying?
    If you think CW is the right choice to lead the Irish and the administration agrees, then I hope you are right. But, I don’t for a minute believe that CW is the only coach that can recruit at ND.

  10. teberle - Nov 19, 2009 at 3:28 PM

    Comments that have nothing to do with the story should be removed. What Tate and Clausen do is not related to the story about graduation rates.
    Recruiting is connected. Virtually every top recruit that has selected Notre Dame in the last 3-4 years has done so at least in part because of the graduation success ND Football players enjoy.

  11. Tom - Nov 19, 2009 at 6:54 PM

    I wonder how this ranking compares to the comparison of school’s APR ratings. I bring this up because APR ratings are what determine sanctions, and there is reason to believe APR ratings are designed to benefit not only schools that have commendable student athletes, but also those that maintain commendable records by passing students along without sanction – even though these students are not on paths that lead to a reasonable chance of graduation. Were this not the case, we would not expect the continued gap in GSR and APR that we observe in the real world.

  12. sharkey - Nov 19, 2009 at 7:38 PM

    After seeing the results at the UND site, I found it extremely gratifying USC was nowhere to be found. How ’bout it Stephen? Make it a good one, it’ll be the only pos i’ll read.

  13. StephenOfTroy - Nov 19, 2009 at 9:49 PM

    I agree with mrrandolph. If Weis is the right coach, keep him. Don’t keep him on the notion that otherwise players X and Y (or recruits A and B) will be history. You cannot predict the future, and you cannot perfectly understand anyone else’s motivation.
    Clausen might start thinking about Sam Bradford, and both Clausen and Tate might start thinking about that soon-to-be-inexperienced O-line that ND will field next year. And the players’ families and friends haven’t yet really been tugging on their shirtsleeves or whispering in their ear. Talk about next year is cheap right now. Players feel emotional connections to the team and the coach. Wait until the off-season, when the players start looking out for No. 1.
    Teberle, do you REALLY think that ND’s top FOOTBALL recruits came here because they understood that ND graduates almost all of its players? Seriously? Maybe some lacrosse player who otherwise couldn’t pay for a college education, but Clausen? You think he was in that stretch Hummer limousine thinking “you know, I could go play for anyone, but ND has that phenomenal graduation rate,” huh? If your brain was a DVR, I’d back that one up and play it over again if I was you. We all say things we wish we could take back. Just ask sharkey.
    Oh, and sharkey, there’s been no proof yet that you read ANYTHING, or that you even CAN read. I think you meant to write “post” but pos was a good freudian slip, considering the source (hint: P.O.S.) And are you freaking kidding me, you’re so desperate for something to say about USC that you are reduced to faux-gloating about graduation rates? Uh, ok. You take that 3-9 season and congratulate yourself that thanks to the astronomical graduation rates, none of those losers are around to stink up the ND practice field. I’m too busy watching all the USC stars in the NFL skies. Next.

  14. sharkey - Nov 19, 2009 at 11:43 PM

    Stephen,
    Insults? Is that the best you can do? (P.O.S. tsk, tsk, tsk) I gave you a chance at a “good blog” and you blew it. What was meant by “good” was giving you a chance to admit to an obvious failure of your school as you are so vocal about so many of our obvious flaws.
    What? No brilliant suggestions from your self vaunted wisdom of how USC should improve their graduation rates?
    What? Not even a blush of embarrassment or comment of how maybe Pete and USC should recruit better student athletes, and this is how they should do it?
    What? Only insults for TRUE Irish fans who hold all these qualities as dear as National Championships as you cram down their throats your worthless comments on what Notre Dame should do about this or that?
    You, Stephen, are a fraud and a hipocrite who really have nothing invested in our team. So enjoy your NFL. And when those athletes can’t play anymore and have blown through their millions because they were never taught what to do with it, they can go to a rival team’s web site and brag about their National Championships.
    Insult me all you wish, I won’t read one damn word of it.

  15. mrrandolph - Nov 20, 2009 at 7:32 AM

    ND is a private school. Using the argument that we turn out better students than you do is the same argument that Vanderbilt uses in the SEC, Stanford uses in the Pac-10, Baylor uses in the Big 12, Northwestern does in the Big 10, Wake Forest and Duke use in the ACC (although Boston College doesn’t).
    Recruit fine quality kids that want to learn (regardless of their HS GPA), fight with admissions to get them in (if Rudy is not fiction, didn’t he go to Holy Cross until his grades were good enough to qualify) then as a Univ.(athletic dept, faculty, tutors, students) fight to get them to graduate and live out their potential. ND is a private institution, their reputation depends on graduating students and contributing to society.
    And, one last thing out of the 2006 class article (Frazer) it is pointed out that atleast 8 of the 28 recruits transferred or quite college football. That is right at only 73% of that class contributed to the program. My question is how did we have a 96 GSR for 2009?

  16. StephenOfTroy - Nov 20, 2009 at 1:31 PM

    sharkey, if you were honest, you’d admit that you insulted me first. I’m just better at it than you are. If you can’t take it, don’t dish it out.
    If you weren’t shouting so loud, you’d hear the sound of me playing the world’s smallest violin for you.
    And, no, I have nothing to blush or feel embarrassed about with regard to USC’s graduation rates, student athletes, or anything else. This site isn’t about USC. If it was, I’d share my opinion about how USC could improve its obvious problems on both sides of the ball (aside, of course, from scheduling ND twice a year).

  17. sharkey - Nov 21, 2009 at 10:13 AM

    Stephen, finally a “good” post from you. I admit I was only baiting you too see if you could take the high road for once and to see if your social skills went beyond beligerence and a good put down. Thank you for putting me in my place the RIGHT WAY.

  18. sharkey - Nov 21, 2009 at 10:32 AM

    true. these results are about as accurate as the BCS saying who is #1.

  19. mrrandolph - Nov 21, 2009 at 11:17 AM

    Thanks for agreeing! If you pull out the GSR, it means you probably had a disappointing year. And, until we have a playoff, the BCS means nothing. And, until a playoff is used, there is no reason for ND to join a conference.

  20. lisa - Nov 21, 2009 at 6:47 PM

    Good thing they graduate because they suck at football. They are a bunch of little rich quitter kids.

  21. joe - Nov 21, 2009 at 8:26 PM

    Mike:
    Please stop going to games..you seem to be a bad luck charm!
    (just kdding!)

  22. joe - Nov 21, 2009 at 8:27 PM

    Mike:
    Please stop going to games..you seem to be a bad luck charm!
    (just kdding!)

  23. Jeff - Nov 22, 2009 at 12:08 AM

    To NBC:
    You have a contract to broadcast Notre Dame games. Not Big East, not SEC, not Big 10 and not Pac 10. I realize that you want to present an unbiased broadcast but please stay unbiased. Your broadcast of the ND-Conn game was pathetic. I know that replacing Weis is an issue and I expect it to be discussed but Tom Hammond over & over & over & over & over (see what I mean). This might be Weis’ last game. His last play. His last season. The only thing he didn’t talk about is he might have pee’d in the locker room for the last time. Show some respect. Get some real broadcaster’s. Every week it seems like they are pulling for the other team. Bob Davie is more unbiased than these guys and ND fired him.
    Give it a rest or give up the contract.

  24. Dan - Nov 23, 2009 at 12:59 AM

    Brain Kelly can recruit.

  25. Dan - Nov 23, 2009 at 1:13 AM

    Troy, Troy,
    What a loser you are. Do you know how many USC players have been out for, um, injuries? During the Oregon game or Stanford game. It was because Pete lied and said it was Injuries and it was not. It was because their grades were to low to play. 2.2gpa just does not cut it.

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