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Brian Kelly is ready for his close up

Dec 10, 2009, 5:40 PM EDT

After ten days of wild rumors, wild goose chases, and wild denials, it’s being reported that Brian Kelly has agreed to coach the Notre Dame football team. The agreement ends a clandestine search orchestrated by Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick, his first real test as the man in charge of his alma mater’s athletic department since taking the job sixteen months ago. While many assumed that Kelly would be the one ultimately tapped to be the next man in charge of the Irish football program, the way the decision came to be was far from routine.

Brian Kelly walks away from a 12-0 Cincinnati football team that will now play the Florida Gators in the Sugar Bowl with Kerry Combs as the interim head coach. That Kelly was willing to walk away from a team that was a 48-yard field goal and a replay official away from playing in the BCS National Championship game goes to show you that the Notre Dame job still means something.

Kelly wasn’t only willing to leave town before a bowl game against the mighty Florida Gators,  he was willing to take over a Notre Dame team that just lost it’s two most prolific offensive weapons, Jimmy Clausen and Golden Tate. It’s a team that will now rely on untested and unhealthy quarterback Dayne Crist, who is only 40 days removed from an ACL tear in his right knee. Even with the instability at quarterback, Kelly’s largest problem will be solving an Irish defense that was historically bad.

So why would a coach that’s presiding over a top college program in a conference ripe for the taking be willing to walk away and take over a Notre Dame program that hasn’t consistently won in 20 years? As we all get to know Brian Kelly, the answer will become obvious.

Brian Kelly has won football games at every stop in his coaching career. He won prodigiously at Grand Valley State. He won big at Central Michigan. He pushed Cincinnati to the apex of college football. And while Kelly won football games with offensive wizardry and tenacious defense, his greatest skill of all might be his upward mobility.

“He’s a salesman, is what he is,” Grand Valley State coach Chuck Martin said of Kelly back in 2007. “Whether it’s Grand Valley State or Central Michigan or Cincinnati, he has kids believing they can move mountains. His number one strength is offense. His number two strength is how good he is politically at getting people to believe in his program. He sells it door to door, which not a lot of coaches do. I remember at Central Michigan, somebody asked him how long the rebuilding cycle would be. He said, ‘About 10 seconds.'”

That Kelly believes he can move mountains should come as no surprise. That Kelly would be willing to jump into the eye of the media storm that comes along with the job and tackle the ghosts of Notre Dame’s past, should be enough evidence that Kelly’s self-belief is far from wavering.

Kelly will be named the ESPN Home Depot Coach of the Year tonight, but he’ll face a much larger task when he meets the press for the very first time as the head coach of Notre Dame. He’d be wise to take note of his predecessor’s stumbles when meeting the press for the first time, and no doubt Kelly will now that anything he says today or tomorrow will be used against him in the years to come.

While many Irish fans hoped for Urban Meyer or Bob Stoops, the hiring of Brian Kelly is solid, if not spectacular. For the first time since Lou Holtz, the Irish will be managed by a battle-tested, proven winner at the collegiate level. While there will surely be growing pains, there likely won’t be any of the fatal flaws that doomed the last three regimes.

More important than Xs and Os, Kelly’s political savvy and ability to sell an image could be his greatest asset, as he tackles a job that’s become one of the more polarizing posts in major sports. Notre Dame is in desperate need of a coach that can become a media darling. Kelly’s quick ascent to the top has shown us he’s capable on the sidelines. As we’ll find out in the days the come, he’s more than ready for his time in the spotlight as well. 

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  1. robertg - Dec 12, 2009 at 5:17 PM

    1. i have owned and operated my own very sucsessful and very honest busineses in many areas of human endeavor since 1977, including companies that i have taken public and sold for huge profits.
    2. aside from these civil litigation projects, my other businesses are run by fine honest people who work for my companies and none of these other businesses require much of my personal time.
    3. i hire and fire people, just as we take down, in the civil courts, the persons and entities who deserve economic extermination. we do not do these things for the money for ourselves.we donate the money to deserving people and insitutions.
    4. by the way, there is a lot of additional information online about phil purcell and about how he came close to wrecking morgan stanley.
    5. having been driven out of morgan stanley, purcell and his lackeys are now attempting to wreck notre dame.
    6.they will not succeed and, this time, we will take all of purcell’s material possesions and those of his lackeys, not just a large chunk, as we did during the morgan stanley cases.
    GO IRISH!!!

  2. robertg - Dec 12, 2009 at 5:49 PM

    1. does purcell’s private equity firm, continental investors llc.( which purcell founded in 2006 after purcell got kickedc out of morgan stanley), have a role in choosing investments for notre dame’s endowment( which dropped from $7 bill to $5.5 bill in the last year)?
    2. our sources indicate a very big yes. in fact, our sources indicate complete control over notre dame’s endowment by purcell and related entities.
    GO IRISH!!!

  3. Rudy! - Dec 12, 2009 at 6:24 PM

    Joe, you’re a moron. Do you relieze that you can either prepare a tema for a bowl game or recruit? You can’t do both. And I’m quite certain that Cincy would not want their Head man out their recruiting, while he should be preparing his team for the Sugar Bowl.
    OK, here’s option 2: Let’s say that BK doesn’t recruit and concentrates on the Sugar Bowl. He winds up with the same problem that Charlie had and has to spend 2 years trying to fix 1 year of bad recruiting, after all of your top recruits have jumped ship. Then he has look for another job.
    Option 3: Notre Dame waits to hire him and he, instead, signs an extension or signs with another program. What do you think happended with Urban Meyer the first go-round.
    Oh yeah, and I’m sure that he’ll ditch ND for a bigger opportunity in 2-3 years…. I’m still trying to think of a higher profile job.
    You and RobertG need to go make sweet, angry love to each other.

  4. DocHR - Dec 12, 2009 at 7:13 PM

    Dear Santa, I’ve been really good this year. I’ve kept the faith, still love the Irish, say my prayers, and brush my teeth. All I want for Christmas is a Notre Dame football blog with no robertg. Thanks, and say “hi” to Mrs. Claus.

  5. jeffrey - Dec 12, 2009 at 8:59 PM

    I remember a good coach at west virgina, had his team to the best bowl game in 12 years, he keep telling everybody I’M STAYING, where was he standing during the game? in his newly built office, wearing maze and blue, I’m an buckeye fan from head to toe,IT’S CARMA BABY,,, GO BEARCATS!!!! what bowl is the U of M going to this year? God save notre dame,,,

  6. barng - Dec 12, 2009 at 9:32 PM

    leave robertg alone he makes as much sense as you haters and fair weather fans.if you folks think that the officiating did’t cost nd at least 4 victories you are all delusional

  7. robertg - Dec 12, 2009 at 9:34 PM

    1. there is always the national enquirer after they finish cleaning up on the tiger woods(stanford’s best and cleanest) atrocities and there is court tv for the civil rico trials.
    2. if anyone finds our posts unpleasant and wants to continue to be conned by purcell, swarbrick, jenkins, and kelly, just do not read anything, watch tv, or look at the internet.
    3. by the way, if anyone wants to entrust his or her money to purcell, his company does have a website online and lists offices in chicago and san diego. the website does have a biography of purcell, but neglects to mention the multibillion judgment that we got and collected against morgan stanley while purcell was running the show.
    4. when ny ag general spitizer showed up with subpoenas for emails and documents, spitzer was informed that, per purcell’s instructions, morgan stanley had shredded all documents and destroyed all emails.
    5.spitzer probaly would have followed up, but spitzer had his own problems to deal with and resigned as ag.
    6. there will be nothing wrong with notre dame after we cut the cancers out in the civil courts.
    7. we all know what happens when people and institutions pretend that the cancers are not there.that is not called keeping the faith or loyalty. it is called cooperating in a coverup.
    8. santa does not give out presents to such unworthy people.
    GO IRISH!!!

  8. robertg - Dec 13, 2009 at 4:49 AM

    1. while my associates really do not care about notre dame, nothing would please my family and myself more than to see the notre dame community cut the cancers out of notre dame before our civil rico lawsuits hit purcell and swarbrick and jenkins and kelly and the others associated with these atrocities and betrayals of notre dame’s core values.
    2. notre dame has been through many crises before and made mistakes before, but, in the past, the notre dame community has risen to the challenges and done the morally and ethically correct things.
    3. knowing the past histories of purcell and swarbrick and jenkins and kelly, are there not people other than us who are not going to let notre dame be hijacked by these con artists?
    4. are there not other people other than us who are going to demand a full accounting of notre dame’s endowment and look behind the books which are very likely cooked to make purcell look much better that he really is?
    5. remember that purcell came very close to wrecking morgan stanley and purcell is the guy who decided not to support charlie and his staff and notre dame’s student athletes who also played football in 2009 and not to attack the current corrupt officiating, rules enforcement, and rankings systems, but, by hiring kelly, to have notre dame join crooked college football enterprises.
    6. we will take them all down in the civil courts in any case, but are they still going to be associated with notre dame when we do so?
    7. some people from within notre dame who are in positions to know have authored posts in this very section confirming that dishonest officiating did cost notre dame’s 2009 team at least 4 games.
    8. they do not have the equipment and experts and other evidence that we do. the number of altered outcomes for notre dame was really 6 games and cincinnati really lost at least 4 games.
    9. notre dame has just allowed purcell and his minions to hijack notre dame football, fire a fine honest coach and his staff, drive jimmy clausen and golden tate and others away from notre dame, and hire kelly, a snake oil salesman with a proven record of cheating to win and lying to members of the last 2 teams he has coached.
    10. we are going to put crooked college football enterprises out of business in the civil courts before next season in any case.
    11. notre dame football will not be operating for a season anyway.
    12. so, doing the right things before we hit purcell( who has many more problems in addition to the atrocities he has committed at notre dame to pay for in the civil courts) and his minions with civil rico lawsuits are the only logical and correct things that the notre dame community rerally can do.
    13. we do not dictate policy at notre dame, but the evidence and the laws do and, beyond a certain point, the evidence and the laws are extremely unforgiving, as they were for purcell at morgan stanley.
    14. unlike many others, my family and i really do care about notrte dame.
    15. however, having posted the facts and the backup links, the rest is up to the notre dame community for a period of time.
    16. while we have the highest respect for cincinnati’s student athletes, perhaps watching that ugly massacre by florida will turn the tide for those who still think that kelly is a real deal, along with those responsible for hiring kelly at notre dame and firing charlie and his staff.
    17. kelly knows exactly how bad that massacre will be at the sugar bowl and also knew that he could not but those game and tech review officials.
    18. that is why he took notre dame’s money and ran before that ugly massacre occurred.
    19. notre dame recruiting for the 2010 cycle? in the toilet.
    20. people have seen the vicious garbage thrown at us at nd central, but none of it ever sticks or slows us down at all.
    21. we have taken down in the civil courts many much more vicious and more intelligent and more powerful con operations than crooked college football enterprises, including certain elements within my own roman catholic church who kept saying trust us, there is nothing wrong going on and we are priests, bishops, and cardinals in your own church.
    22. hiding behind clerical garments did not help those bad elements within the roman catholic church.
    23. why would we permit purcell and his minions to hide behind notre dame myths which they have disgraced?
    24. we are battle tested combat warriors in the civil courts and nothing slows us down or stops us.
    25. my family and i would love to see the notre dame community cut out the cancers before we do for the good of notre dame future and out of respect for her past.
    26. however, we can hold back the now inevitable for only a short period of time.
    27. how do members of the notre dame community excercise their rights knowing in adnace that purcell and his minions will stonewall, ass they did in the morgan stanley litigations?
    28. well, notre dame has a fine law school to blow the stonewalling away and a fine business school to crack the cooked books.
    29. if there really is nothing wrong at notre dame football and with notre dame’s endowment funds, then no stonewalling will be necessary.
    30. if, as we already know, there are many things very wrong, along with cooked endowment books, the notre dame community can expose the mess and cut out the cancers before we get there and, when we hit purcell and his minions in the civil courts, they will no longer be affilated with notre dame and notre dame will be the heroine, instead of just another villain.
    GO IRISH!!

  9. robertg - Dec 13, 2009 at 6:18 AM

    1. some of my relatives fought in the 101st airborn at the seige of bastogne during ww 2 when, in response to the german demand for the surrender of the 101st,brigadier general mcauliffe(yes, an irish catholic by birth) replied “nuts”.
    2. my relatives have told me that the germans really were not that good and that, once the american army got organized, the germans really had no chance at all to win.
    3. well, we are already highly organized and fully prepared for these civil rico lawsuits, just as we always are. we never underestimate our enemies and have seen every dirty trick in the book.
    4. nuts is what i said to a con artist at the california state bar when he admitted to me that none of the accusations were true at all, but that the outcome would be fixed. if i just paid $5.000 and agreed to keep quiet about the crooked and dishonest judges and abandoned my friend and client who had been wrongfully sued in a crooked couthouse in pomona.
    5. i told the jerk that i did not care if the outcome in the illegal court was fixed, but that he would never be able to keep out the media and that i would put hom on the witness stand and expose him as the con artist that he was.
    6. i won the case in pomona and, terrorized by the prospect of being exposed at a public trial in their illegal court, the california state bar purported to hold a secret trial on a secret date, which neither the media or myself could attend since we were never notified.
    7. more than 10 years later, i am still prospering and trying and winning cases, having never faced any criminal of civil lawsuits arising out of those illegal proceedings in that illegal court.
    8. on the other side, the california state bar has had its entire budget vetoed by 2 california governors for engaging in similar illegal conduct, has virtually no resouces or power left and is about to be federalized out of existence. far, 2 of the crooked california superior court judges behind that phony attack on me ended up pleading guilty to federal felonies in the us district court in los angeles and were led off crying in chains to federal prisons
    9. not one of the crooked judges involved is still a sitting judge anywhere.
    10. by decisions of the california supreme court, no documents from that illegal state bar court are admissible in any real civil or criminal proceeding. we posted every citation earlier and keith and his staff have our permission to send those posts and all of our posts this seasson by email to anyone requesting them.
    11.even if the opposition could figure out a way to take me out of the fight( not that they ever will), they still have over 100 other attorneys all over the us to deal with who, because of me, no crooked state bars have ever dared to attempt to touch.
    12. we are very serious and very deadly, but my family and i would love to see the notre dame community cut out the cancers within notre dame before we hit them with our civil rico lawsuits.
    GO IRISH!!!

  10. dabears - Dec 13, 2009 at 10:31 AM

    -You talk so much about character, yet YOU are a disgraced attorney, disbarred in California. Is this not true???
    -You act like you have inside information about Notre Dame, and yet you have been TOTALLY WRONG about every major ND decision in the last month. They fired Weis, hired Kelly and not a single threatened “RICO” suit ever came to anything. You have no connections at all.
    -The Local and National Media Shills have turned out to have been RIGHT nearly all of the times at which you have screamed that they were wrong.
    You have no credibility behind your violent words, you have proven over and over to be completely wrong in your predictions, and you only hurt the thing that you supposedly love with your silliness.
    You are completely NOT “very serious and very deadly” – you are a sad, deflated joke, successful only in getting up the ire of better Irish fans, but at the price of what scraps of your integrity still remain. Consider ending your embarrassment now, would you?

  11. dabears - Dec 13, 2009 at 10:32 AM

    -You talk so much about character, yet YOU are a disgraced attorney, disbarred in California. Is this not true???
    -You act like you have inside information about Notre Dame, and yet you have been TOTALLY WRONG about every major ND decision in the last month. They fired Weis, hired Kelly and not a single threatened “RICO” suit ever came to anything. You have no connections at all.
    -The Local and National Media Shills have turned out to have been RIGHT nearly all of the times at which you have screamed that they were wrong.
    You have no credibility behind your violent words, you have proven over and over to be completely wrong in your predictions, and you only hurt the thing that you supposedly love with your silliness.
    You are completely NOT “very serious and very deadly” – you are a sad, deflated joke, successful only in getting up the ire of better Irish fans, but at the price of what scraps of your integrity still remain. Consider ending your embarrassment now, would you?

  12. DavidK - Dec 13, 2009 at 10:43 AM

    ND is not robertg’s team, this guy must have had some major issues growing up. We would most likley see te same comments if they had hired Urban Meyer. Nothing will satisfy him. What’s done is done, let’s get behind Kelly and see if he can get ND back to where they are supposed to be.

  13. kejji - Dec 13, 2009 at 11:18 AM

    What robertg says:….24. we are battle tested combat warriors in the civil courts and nothing slows us down or stops us.
    25. my family and i would love to see the notre dame community cut out the cancers before we do for the good of notre dame future and out of respect for her past.
    What people hear robertg say:…blah, blah, blah, civil courts, blah, notre dame, blah, blah, blah, respect, blah, blah.

  14. Chuckit - Dec 13, 2009 at 12:27 PM

    It’s clear that football fosters hate. No good will is ever achieved with football. Any sport having a “winner” and a “loser” will end up fostering hate and bad will.
    Goodwill among fans can only be achieved with sports which have only winners when the game is over. That’s a win-win recipe. Every participant wins. Good faith and harmony can be achieved this way.
    But society (we) only pay for adversarial sports, where somebody gets clobbered by design of the “game”. Each dollar vote has the message: “Let MY team clobber the other team”. It’s bad will from the start.

  15. Rudy! - Dec 13, 2009 at 12:57 PM

    Oh, by the way, in response to RobertG’s Assessment of Phil Purcell as a person, Wikipedia also had this to say about him:
    Purcell has been actively involved in s number of philantropic endeavors. They include perochial school education, multiple sclerosis research, multiple melanoma research, children’s healthcare, and others. In addition to his support for Judge Memorial in Salt Lake City, Purcell’s involvement with Mt. Carmel, a parochial school in Harlem, has enabled a vital inner-city educational facility to stay open and continue serving the community. Purcell has served as a trustee of the University of Notre Dame since 1991, and has been a major contributor to the University. He and his wife Anne have made gifts to the University of Chicago Graduate School of Business to establish the Distiguished Fellows Program, which provides full scholarship support for the school’s top students.
    Yeah, he sounds like a real scumbag! I’d like to know more about RobertG, though. It seems pretty unlikely that a “Multi-Millionaire” that owns all of these businesses and is so high-profile would spend his valuable time blogging on NBC’s website. If you really loved Notre Dame the way that so many of us do, you wouldn’t slander the administration or their newly appointed head coach. Hey, I loved Charlie Weis as a person as well, but he just wasn’t producing on the field. If you can prove that the actions of Rev. Jenkins, Jack Swarbrick, and Phil Purcell were illegal, immoral, or unjustified, please do so in court. I’m sure that you would get the media attention that you obviously feel that you need. In the interim, your rantings are no more than fodder that are full of opinion with facts carefully sprinkled in, so that your point is supported, but anything that may contradict you is omitted.
    “A narrow mind and a fat head invariably come on the same person”
    -Zig Ziglar

  16. JAKE - Dec 13, 2009 at 2:33 PM

    To know all you need to about Robertg scroll up to post 41. Go to that web page which describes his disbarrment.
    Talk about shills and con men.

  17. kejji - Dec 13, 2009 at 4:18 PM

    You must realize there is a formula for deciphering robertg’s meandering prose. You take what he says..spin it around 180 degrees, divide it by 4 and then you might have something close to the truth…or you can just scrape it off the plate and throw it in the garbage.

  18. robertg - Dec 13, 2009 at 8:58 PM

    1.real judges and juries all over the us have never had any difficulties figuring out the evidence that we present at real court trials, nor will they in these civil actions.
    2. once we finish with the settlement possible people and entities, my personal love for what notre dame should stand for and my personal desires that the notre dame community cut out the cancers before the civil rico lawsuits hit purcell and swarbrick and jenkins and kelly and their minions completely disappear from the equations.
    3. if the notre dame community has not cut out the cancers on their own before that happens, then the university of notre dame and every trustee of the university become defendants on the same level with purcell and his minions.
    4. there is nothing complicated about these processes. of course, we will contact personnaly every member of notre dame’s board of trustees, give them each the evidence and chances to settle out of court individually and for the uiniversity of notre dame.
    5. if the notre dame community has cut out the cancers before we hit purcell and his minions with their civil rico lawsuits, then the settlement amounts for the trustees and for the university of notre dame will be extremely low.
    6. if notre dame’s trustees, who have fiduciary duties to every person and entity who has made donations to notre dame, as we have, fail to act in time, then the economic consequences for them and for the university will be much harsher.
    7. can we give exact deadlines? no. there are thousands of settlement possible people and entities all over the us who have gotten caught up in crooked college football and sports enterprises.
    8. in all of our cases, we give those people opportunities to settle out of court, tell the truth, and have economic lives left for themselves and their families.
    9. there is nothing complicated about these processes for us or for the opposition, once the very deadly economic realities set in.
    10. for any person or entity that does not want to accept these realities before they have passed the points of no settlements possible, that is just tough.
    11. at those points, we have no emotions involved, nor should we.
    GO IRISH!!!

  19. StephenOfTroy - Dec 13, 2009 at 11:29 PM

    Well, Robert T. Gilleran, I can’t say I agree with you. But I CAN say I agree with Wes Morgan, whom you quoted in comment 12.

  20. dave - Dec 13, 2009 at 11:36 PM

    Hey Guys! It’s just a game. It’s big business at it’s finest. You take the lumps on the chin and move on! Cinci will survive without Kelly. He guided the team, he didn’t play the game. ND is fortunate in the end to get him. But keep in mind that there’s always another out there more than capable. Cinnci will find another coach. Just think ND and Cinci in a bowl game next year? At that National Championship Game! Well let’s dream-enjoy the bowl games-Happy Holidays people! Chill Out it’s only a game’Go Irish-GO Irish-We are ND!

  21. StephenOfTroy - Dec 13, 2009 at 11:45 PM

    ugetwutuask4: Sorry, it has been a busy weekend.
    I just finished giggling over your breathless comment about how well ND will do — playing in the national championship game in 3 years, huh? Care to make it interesting? (#32)
    Then I chuckled over your preference for reading my comments over those of Robert T. Gilleran. Don’t get me wrong, but that’s like saying you’d rather do X than poke yourself in the eye with a sharp stick. Robert’s a nutball. Although he DID remind me of that coach ND had on the line before Ty, for about six minutes, until his “lying” (prevarication? untruth? misrepresentation? [trying to help soften the blow for TLNDMA]) about his resume came to light. I had forgotten about that.
    But then I got to the whopper about how I’m supposedly transitioning from being a USC fan to being an ND fan. Get a grip, ugetwut. I’m never going to stop being a USC fan. I’ve always liked both programs but there’s no question about which one I love more. I got to dance, and go home with, the one what brung me. And there’s no way in hell I would stop being a USC fan just so I could breathlessly follow a coach who LIED to his players just so that he could slip out the side door without anyone making a fuss.
    Still, thanks for letting me know you missed me. As I said, I’ve been busy. I’m back and ready to scroll through Robert T. Gilleran’s prediction that the world will end in 2012 now.

  22. StephenOfTroy - Dec 13, 2009 at 11:49 PM

    steve, you asked: “Those who have worked with and played for Brian Kelly describe him as a man of integrity who is honest and a straight shooter. So does his dishonesty with his players surrounding the ND hire negate decades of proving himself to be a man of reputable character?”
    In a word, steve, the answer is “yes.” Anything else? (You’re welcome, TLNDMA…)

  23. StephenOfTroy - Dec 14, 2009 at 12:00 AM

    Avon Domer, in comment #43 you asked “Does everyone in America have the right to change jobs to better themselves except the most recent head football coach at the University of Cincinnati?”
    This reminds me of the discussion you and I had re: the ND administration’s decision to break its own established precedent by firing Willingham before his first contract had run.
    OF COURSE Kelly can change jobs to better himself. The only issue is whether he can lie to his players about doing so. I don’t fault the man for seeking a better job. I fault him for choosing to lie about doing so, for no other reason than because he couldn’t stand to look them in the eye if he told them the truth, nor could he stand to remain silent in the face of obvious media scrutiny on the issue.
    By contrast, I remind you that Steve Sarkisian took the Univ. of Washington head coaching job this year. Last year, he was the offensive coordinator for USC. He told the coaches and players that he was moving on, as soon as he found out about the job, and he helped coach my Trojans to a big win over Penn State in the Rose Bowl. So yes, a coach can take a promotion, and do so with integrity. He can also honor the commitment he made to the players he recruited and the coaches he toiled for long hours in the video room with.
    Kelly didn’t do those things. At the risk of agreeing with Robert T. Gilleran, in my view the man has no integrity and is unworthy of a high-prestige job like ND used to be. I don’t know what his new salary is, but I don’t think a coach worth millions of dollars lies to a room full of the kids he recruited. Integrity is the sine qua non (not “sine que non,” Robert!) of a good coach.
    I have no interest in seeing ND stumble AGAIN with its coaching hire. But nor can I pretend that all is well as long as the Domers win. As you’ve said yourself, better that ND lose and be true to herself than for ND to betray her principles and win games. And you said that about Prop 48, which is not nearly as bad as lying, in my view….
    Happy Holidays, Avon!

  24. StephenOfTroy - Dec 14, 2009 at 12:20 AM

    Oh, and Robert T. Gilleran, I’m still waiting for your response to my proposed settlement offer. I have a teensy addendum regarding same, as follows:
    G. You send to me a 100% cotton t-shirt that reads “We are Battle-Tested Combat Veterans” on the front and “We Cut Out The Cancers” on the back. Size M if it’s pre-shrunk. Otherwise make it size L.

  25. robertg - Dec 14, 2009 at 2:32 AM

    stephen of troy,
    1. try a remedial reading course.
    2. you have been in the no settlement possible category for quite a while by your own stupid choices and after many warnings.
    3. you will receive a visit from one of our process servers at your home bearing a civil lawsuit.
    4. you might try to ignore that also, in which case you lose by default.
    5. you could hire some attorneys from usc law school who will be happy to take your money until you run out and end up in the bk courts, where we will pursue you also since judgments for the types of activities in which you have engaged are not releasable in any bk court.
    6. in the meantime, post away and consider this whole thing a joke just as ken lay of enron and bernie ebbers and a number of priests, bishops, and cardinals in the roman cathlic church did.
    7. we could care less if you blow all of your assets on attorneys fees.
    8. you have requested economic extermination in the civil courts on more occasions than anyone else so far.
    9. we have granted your many requests, but you are not getting to the front of the line.
    10. other than progress reports for those who deserve them and what you can read about in the media, including the national enquirer, and on the internet, you will just have to wait your turn in a long line.
    11. in every one of these projects, we maintain and ongoing vote for the worst jerk. right now, you are in the lead, the prize is a t shirt with your picture, along with the appropriate words in very bold print on the front and back, which we give away to the public all over the us, as we and others are now doing with your hero, o j simpson.
    12. however, the vote is ongoing and others may overtake you.
    GO IRISH!!!

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