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JF Kenny — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:59:42 +0000

Kelly’s first order of business is to get rid of the useless Ron Paulus on the coching staff.

By: Jake

Jake — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:49:06 +0000

Stephen:
Your absolutely right about his threats and rambling dissertation’s going on for years. To make it worse it’s the same stuff repeated over and over with the only change being fill in the name of the party to be sued.
“We will bring down economic thunder on the asshats”. 9/19/07, Haloscan.com.
“We (there’s that “we” again) are ready to shove those solutions down the throats of the conferences and the NCAA well before the 2009 season ever begins”
The preceding from an 18 point diatribe on the UHND site signed Robert Thomas Patrick Gilleran 11/28/08.
I like the addition of “Patrick” don’t you? Got that Irish thing going on.
It reminds me of the movie “The Shinning” where Jack Nickelson is typing “All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy” over and over again.
It’s the same old re-cycled garbage that makes Robertg a really dull boy.

By: StephenOfTroy

StephenOfTroy — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:58:06 +0000

Robert, I don’t mind your gibberish about Vidal Hazelton.
But you put quotation marks around a very troubling statement you attributed to Coach Kelly: “they are just black kids from ghetto backgrounds. leave them alone.”
You should provide a link for that statement. Otherwise my view of YOUR character will plummet. And I didn’t think I could think any less of you. Of course, I hadn’t considered your entertainment value. If it turns out that you have no link to that statement, even with your alleged proprietary legal spyware, then I’m afraid your entire credibility is up for grabs. And that’s a shame. Because I just KNOW that this entire blog-reading community is on pins and needles waiting for you to “cut out the cancers” at ND if and only if ND’s fine business and law schools do not heed your warning and do it themselves (and the sooner, the better! way to avoid painting yourself into a corner there, doofus!)
You’ve been making threats online for years. But your recent lashings-out at Swarbrick, Jenkins and Kelly are more disturbing. Even Keith Arnold, your patron, tried to get you to cool it. Come on, man. Don’t put quotes around your gibberish without linking to it.

By: robertg

robertg — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:59:36 +0000

1.for anyone who checks the cincinnati roster online and checks rivals or scout, he or he will find another familiar name on the cincinnati roster, a wr by the name of vidal hazelton, the no 1 ranked wr in the 2007 recruiting cycle.
2. a fine athlete, but one with such severe character and academic faults that charlie and his staff could not even consider him for notre dame.
3. vidal’s father desperstely worked to keepp his son away from pete carroll’s crooked usc football program and steer him to joe paterno at penn state.
4. vidal fell for petey’s snake oil pitch, but got fed up after one year and ended up with all sorts of promises from kelly at cincinnati, including the pitch the kelly would make him great.
5. vidal had to sit out the 2009 season and is exactly the type of guy that kelly wants to bring to notre dame.
6. unless kelly has forged major changes in notre dame’s academic and character standards, vidal will not be accepted at notre dame and is just one more example of kelly making promises he never intended to keep.
7. kelly does not develop football players and, based on kelly’s own academic and character backgrounds, could care lees about academic standards and character standards.
8. without hesitation, kelly uses his full time football players to advance his own personal objectives.
9. the academic success rate at cincinnati- around 70%( as opposed to the no 1 ranking in the academic success are achieved by charlie and his staff and notre dame’s 2009 student athletes who also play football, with plenty of dumbed own or phony academic options at cincinnati for full time football players.
10. when kelly had some of his central michigan players arrested for violent felonies, kelly’s comment was “they are just black kids from ghetto backgrounds. leave them alone.”
11. to this kelly, purcell and swarbrick and jenkins and others have delivered notre dame’s football program and notre dame’s
student athletes.
12. anyone can verify the accuracy of these facts.
GO IRISH!!!

By: robertg

robertg — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:44:46 +0000

1. for any member of the notre dame community who has not checked, kelly also has a bcs history.
2. in last year’s orange bowl, kelly’s cincinnati team was soundly defeated by a very mediocre vtech team 20-7 at the bcs bowl that no one wanted to attend based on the large number of unsold seats.
3. every season, one of the bcs bowls does get stuck with the big least football champion and the acc basketball conference championship football team.
4. it is no wonder that take the money and run kelly bailed out before the public could watch florida dismantle the”genius” coach’s cincinnati team.
5. we certainly have the utmost respect for cincinnati’s 2009 student athletes, but, without kelly’s officials in his back pocket, this cincinnati team really lost at least 4 games in 2009 already.
6. kelly also bailed out on his central michigan team for the cincinnato job before central michigan played in their bowl game.
7. when kelly finally told his cincinnati student athletes the truth about his move to notre dame after cincinnati’s annual football banquet and had the gall to thank his student athletes for making it possible for kelly to get the notre dame job, every member of the cincinnati team left immediately in total disgust.
8. credibility of kelly with recruits? zero. notre dame’s current recruiting network was rebuilt from scratch by charlie, who had to and did win back the trust of recruits and their families and high school coaches all over the us with charlie’s honesty and integrity.
9. kelly’s recruiting pull in ohio? negative. kelly’s house in cincinnati with the for sale sign out in front really did get pelted with rotten eggs by ennraged cincinnati fans, not because kelly left, but because he lied to everyone, including recruits. the word about things such as kelly’s lack of integrity, honesty, and loyalty.
10. respect for kelly among nfl coaches and owners? zero.jimmy clausen and golden tate have already voted against purcell, swarbrick, jenkins and kelly, although swarbrick and the others have desperately tried to change their minds.
11. there is no question that both jimmy clausen and golden tate really loved what notre dame should stand for and no longer does.
12. did purcell and swarbrick and jenkins know about all of these things before they fired charlie and hired kelly?
13. they most certainly did. were they turned down by numerous other really qualified coaches before they had no option left but kelly.
14.the contacts were all made by an executive search firm( with zero expertise in evaluating college or nfl football coaches) hired by purcell, swarbrick, jenkins, and certain others in the current notre dame admistration.
15 sure, swarbrick looked into the cameras on und.com and stated that kelly was the 1st and only person with whom he had spoken or offerred the notre dame job to.
16.intentionally misleading, along with the rest of the kelly media spin from the usual suspects at the south bend tribune and various so called notre dame fan sites that make millions from recycling football coaces at notre dame.
17.purcell and swarbrick and jenkins and kelly have stabbed charlie weis and his staff and notre dame’s student athletes and the university of notre dame in the backs and spent millions of other people’s money.
18 we already know what we are doing in the civil courts.
19.inthe meantime, we certainly hope that the notre dame community does the right things before we get to that stage.
20. kelly could not buy the officials at the sugar bowl game at whicn florida will expose kelly as the snake oil salesman that he always has been.
21.kelly needed to get right on with recruiting at notre dame? we already know what recruits and their families and high school coaches will think when they watch florida massacre cincinnati at the sugar bowl.we also know that they no longer trust notre dame.
22. by the way, kelly really needs to shed quite a few pounds. we are certain that he will drop a great deal of weight when he gets served with our civil rico lawsuit and that we will take all oif his material possesions and relieve the university of notre dame of all contractual obligations to kelly and his staff.
23. no, we do not believe in class actions( we were against using that approach in the enron and mci worldcom civil rico actions and those who failed to listen to us are now convinced that we were correct).
24. we take out the bad guys one at a time in many separate lawsuits all over the us with only ourselves as plaintiffs( including causes of action and judgments, which we purchase from 3rd party victims, such as kelly’s former student athletes at cincinnati and elsewhere).
25. we do not have to pay any trial attorneys since we could not find anyone better than ourselves in these types of projects.after all, we invented all of the key technology used in these projects.
26. every one of us is extremely well financed, both from other huge civil litigations wins and from numerous very succesful businesses in many diverse areas of business, especially in the high tech areas, which we own and have run by honest, trustworthy, people, thereby minimizing the demands on our time.
27. our techies have invented some great and perfectly legal spyware for us and tailored the software to each of our companies sothat alarms go off in our quality control division if anything does go wrong and our qualty control people take care of the problems.
GO IRISH!!!

By: robertg

robertg — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:41:52 +0000

1.we do have some updates for anyone in the notre dame community who is still the victim of the media spins about kelly’s honesty, integrity, and loyalty.
2. we have gathered sworn declarations from many of the student athletes who played for kelly at cincinnati, central michigan, and elsewhere,
3. based on these sworn declarations and the live civil court testimont which will folllow. kelly’s ratings for honesty and integrity, and loyaly are zero.
4. kelly continued to lie to his student athletes at cincinnati long after he had reached an agreement in principle with purcell,swarbrick, jenkins, and others at notre dame.
5. after all, kelly still needed to use these young men to beat pittsbugh, even though kelly had the officials in his back pocket.
6. if anyone wants to bother looking at the cincinnati roster, he or she will find a familiar name, former notre dame qb demetrius jones.
7. although charlie and his staff honorably offerred demetrius the chance to play other positions at notre dame and to get a top quality education at notre dame, someone named kelly contacted demetrius and promised demetrius that he would be the starting qb at cincinnati.
8. did demetrius ever get that promised opportunity or any real college education? no. of course, the oral promises were never reduced to writing and demetrius ended up with zero nfl future and no real college education.
9. where did kelly learn how to lie and cheat so well? from his boston alderman father. in boston, as in chicago, dishonesty, lack of integrity and lack of loyalty are the roads to suceess.
10. kelly learned those tactics very well from his father and has used those tactics throughout his life.
11. did purcell and swarbick and jenkins and others at notre dame know about kelly’s past history before they used notre dame’s money to hire kelly? they most certainly did and they all continue to lie to notre dame’s student athletes,to recruits( not buying into this con), to the notre dame community, and to the public, soiling notre dame’s name and reputation.
12. we have provided plenty of information and links for members of the notre dame community. the rest is up to them with the only real issue being whether or not purcell, swarbrick,jenkins and everyone else involved in these atrocities at notre dame are still at notre dame when we hit those people with our civil rico lawsuits.
13. we do not want to drag notre dame into the sewers along with purcell, swarbrick, jenkins, kelly, and others.
14. however, we will be forced to do exactly that unless the notre dame community cuts out those cancers 1st.
15. we did have to make that choice with priests, bishops, and cardinals in our own roman catholic church and, while the process wass extremely ugly, we did what was required and cut the cancers out of our own roman catholic church.
GO IRISH!!!

By: StephenOfTroy

StephenOfTroy — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:07:05 +0000

So, Robert, I take it that you’re not willing to settle on the terms I offered.
Well, I’m in a flexible mood. Let’s negotiate. Any word on that half-eaten apple I mentioned earlier? Another of the people in your crosshairs mentioned something about a sandwich. Could I get one of those? I don’t feel like looking through the fridge again, but I could go for a late night snack.
If your process server shows up with either the aforementioned apple or sandwich, I will be happy to accept service of whatever nonsense you cribbed from a Nolo Press book at Barnes & Noble. Otherwise, your process server faces the wrath of my battle-tested combat veteran jack russell terrier. You’ve been warned, doofus.

By: robertg

robertg — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:32:48 +0000

stephen of troy,
1. try a remedial reading course.
2. you have been in the no settlement possible category for quite a while by your own stupid choices and after many warnings.
3. you will receive a visit from one of our process servers at your home bearing a civil lawsuit.
4. you might try to ignore that also, in which case you lose by default.
5. you could hire some attorneys from usc law school who will be happy to take your money until you run out and end up in the bk courts, where we will pursue you also since judgments for the types of activities in which you have engaged are not releasable in any bk court.
6. in the meantime, post away and consider this whole thing a joke just as ken lay of enron and bernie ebbers and a number of priests, bishops, and cardinals in the roman cathlic church did.
7. we could care less if you blow all of your assets on attorneys fees.
8. you have requested economic extermination in the civil courts on more occasions than anyone else so far.
9. we have granted your many requests, but you are not getting to the front of the line.
10. other than progress reports for those who deserve them and what you can read about in the media, including the national enquirer, and on the internet, you will just have to wait your turn in a long line.
11. in every one of these projects, we maintain and ongoing vote for the worst jerk. right now, you are in the lead, the prize is a t shirt with your picture, along with the appropriate words in very bold print on the front and back, which we give away to the public all over the us, as we and others are now doing with your hero, o j simpson.
12. however, the vote is ongoing and others may overtake you.
GO IRISH!!!

By: StephenOfTroy

StephenOfTroy — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:20:11 +0000

Oh, and Robert T. Gilleran, I’m still waiting for your response to my proposed settlement offer. I have a teensy addendum regarding same, as follows:
G. You send to me a 100% cotton t-shirt that reads “We are Battle-Tested Combat Veterans” on the front and “We Cut Out The Cancers” on the back. Size M if it’s pre-shrunk. Otherwise make it size L.

By: StephenOfTroy

StephenOfTroy — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:00:30 +0000

Avon Domer, in comment #43 you asked “Does everyone in America have the right to change jobs to better themselves except the most recent head football coach at the University of Cincinnati?”
This reminds me of the discussion you and I had re: the ND administration’s decision to break its own established precedent by firing Willingham before his first contract had run.
OF COURSE Kelly can change jobs to better himself. The only issue is whether he can lie to his players about doing so. I don’t fault the man for seeking a better job. I fault him for choosing to lie about doing so, for no other reason than because he couldn’t stand to look them in the eye if he told them the truth, nor could he stand to remain silent in the face of obvious media scrutiny on the issue.
By contrast, I remind you that Steve Sarkisian took the Univ. of Washington head coaching job this year. Last year, he was the offensive coordinator for USC. He told the coaches and players that he was moving on, as soon as he found out about the job, and he helped coach my Trojans to a big win over Penn State in the Rose Bowl. So yes, a coach can take a promotion, and do so with integrity. He can also honor the commitment he made to the players he recruited and the coaches he toiled for long hours in the video room with.
Kelly didn’t do those things. At the risk of agreeing with Robert T. Gilleran, in my view the man has no integrity and is unworthy of a high-prestige job like ND used to be. I don’t know what his new salary is, but I don’t think a coach worth millions of dollars lies to a room full of the kids he recruited. Integrity is the sine qua non (not “sine que non,” Robert!) of a good coach.
I have no interest in seeing ND stumble AGAIN with its coaching hire. But nor can I pretend that all is well as long as the Domers win. As you’ve said yourself, better that ND lose and be true to herself than for ND to betray her principles and win games. And you said that about Prop 48, which is not nearly as bad as lying, in my view….
Happy Holidays, Avon!

By: StephenOfTroy

StephenOfTroy — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 23:49:29 +0000

steve, you asked: “Those who have worked with and played for Brian Kelly describe him as a man of integrity who is honest and a straight shooter. So does his dishonesty with his players surrounding the ND hire negate decades of proving himself to be a man of reputable character?”
In a word, steve, the answer is “yes.” Anything else? (You’re welcome, TLNDMA…)