Best of St. Patty's Day: Brady vs. Jimmy, Irish March Madness

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As we creep closer to spring football, writers have gotten a little bit more creative when coming up with content with news and information hard to come by. Here are a couple ideas I wish I would’ve come up with first:

* Over at, the boys take on a wonderful debate topic: Brady vs. Jimmy. What former quarterback would Charlie Weis — again an NFL coordinator — want on his team?

Here’s a quick rundown of their picks:


Brady Quinn would be the easy pick for Charlie to take. Brady’s college
line reads like this. 929-1,602 for 58%. 11,762 passing yards, 95 TD’s
and only 39 INT’s for a rating of 134.4. Oh yeah, he also rushed for 6
TD’s in his career as the master of the QB sneak. At 6’4″ 235 the dude
is a beast. Brady was recruited under Ty Willingham and became the
starter as a freshman. It wasn’t until Quinn’s JR year that his success
took off under Charlie Weis.

The thing that really sets Brady apart from Jimmy Clausen is 353 passing
attempts. Thats 353 more passing attempts in the NFL that Jimmy Clausen
has. Quinn has played in 15 NFL games. He has experience reading
coverage’s, trying to figure out pre-snap disguises and has had game
time to adjust to the speed of the game.  Brady’s numbers might not be
the best in the NFL, but they are NFL numbers nonetheless. He completed
over half his passes and he has more career TD’s than INT’s. He did all
this while playing behind a porous line for the Browns and had almost
zero talent at the skill positions. Brady is clearly the better option
for Charlie to take.


Jimmy’s numbers may be less than Brady’s, but he also had one less year
as he is forgoing his senior year for the NFL. There is no doubt that
Jimmy was certainly on pace to break Brady’s ND records. Jimmy was a
standout college QB, but there are more than just numbers with Jimmy
Clausen. No question about it, Jimmy and Charlie are forever linked
together… Jimmy was Charlie’s first big get. The number one QB coming out of high
school, Jimmy chose ND to specifically work with Charlie Weis. Since
Jimmy arrived on campus the two went through a veritable gauntlet

On a purely technical side, it would be much easier for Weis to pick up
right where he left off with Jimmy. Brady has been out of the Weis
system for three years, and it might take some getting used to for Brady
if he wound up in KC. Jimmy has proved he has the arm, the accuracy,
and the guts to make it in the pros. He left ND because Weis got fired,
there is no question these two share a bond, which is why Clausen would
be the best fit for KC. Jimmy’s numbers + bond with Charlie = Jimmy
rules (That’s exact science).

Since I’m hijacking this post, I might as well give my opinion on the argument, too. If I’m the Kansas City Chiefs right now, I’m probably choosing to work with Brady Quinn, though it isn’t because Charlie Weis told me so. Jimmy Clausen is going to cost a team a first round draft pick and a lot of guaranteed dollars. The market for Brady Quinn was softer than baby food. A sixth round pick and a run first fullback for a guy that you traded a number one pick for? More importantly, you’ve got to negotiate a contract with Clausen’s representatives, which likely will keep him tied up negotiating into training camp. That’s the exact kind of scenario that kept Quinn out of camp his rookie year and put him behind Derek Anderson to begin with. Intangibly, I think Brady’s the better leader, better teammate, and he’s already been through the circus before with significant NFL experience. But if I was picking quarterbacks on the sand lot and I wanted to win, it’d be a lot harder to call BQ’s name first. 

Great debate topic by the guys at Subway Domer, especially on St. Patrick’s Day.

* Over at Under the Golden Dome, Nick Shepkowski brings March Madness to Notre Dame football, with a NCAA-style bracket to determine who the best Irish football player is of the last 25 years.

Shep’s broken the brackets into four groups: Quarterbacks, Defense/O-Line, WR/TE, and Running Backs. There are some heated battles too: No. 4 seed Tommy Zbikowski vs. No. 5 seed Justin Tuck and No. 4 Golden Tate vs. No. 5 Derrick Mayes.

If I had a bone to pick, it’d be with the selection committee. Putting all the defensive players in the same group as offensive lineman? Slotting Maurice Stovall as the sixth best wide receiver or tight end of the last 25 years, when Michael Floyd ranks eighth and John Carlson ranks seventh? Rhema McKnight could be there before Stovall. And where’s Shane Walton, Notre Dame’s last consensus first team All-American before Golden Tate made it there this season?

Arguing seeding is half the fun with a story like that and great conversation piece among Notre Dame fans who might spend the evening carousing. 

Path to the draft: Ronnie Stanley

CHICAGO, IL - APRIL 28:  Ronnie Stanley of Notre Dame holds up a jersey with NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell after being picked #6 overall by the Baltimore Ravens during the first round of the 2016 NFL Draft at the Auditorium Theatre of Roosevelt University on April 28, 2016 in Chicago, Illinois.  (Photo by Jon Durr/Getty Images)
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Your name didn’t have to be Mel Kiper or Mike Mayock to understand that from the moment Jaylon Smith stepped foot on campus at Notre Dame he was destined to be an early-round NFL draft pick. But as the dust settles on the Irish’s impressive 2016 draft haul, a look back at the developmental process of the team’s seven draft picks serves as a wonderful testament to Brian Kelly and the program he has built.

Notre Dame’s draftees come in all shapes and sizes. Fifth-year seniors like Nick Martin. Three-and-out stars like Jaylon Smith and Will Fuller. Consistent four-year performers like Sheldon Day and one-year wonders like C.J. Prosise.

But each followed a unique path to the NFL, one that was fostered by a coaching staff that allowed each athlete to develop at their own pace and ascend into a role where an NFL team thought highly enough to select each player in the first 103 picks of the draft.

Let’s take a trip down (recent) memory lane, as we connect the dots from recruitment, development and playing career as we look at Notre Dame’s seven success stories.


Ronnie Stanley
No. 6 overall to Baltimore Ravens

The first offensive lineman selected in the 2016 draft, Stanley’s recruitment saw the Irish find their first bit of success at Bishop Gorman High School, leading the way to Nicco Fertitta and Alizé Jones. A four-star prospect who hovered between a Top 100 and Top 250 player depending on the evaluation, Stanley was invited to the Semper Fidelis All-Star game, a second-tier game that all but signified his status outside of the elite, at least on the recruiting circuit.

That’s not how Notre Dame’s coaching staff felt about him, though.

“He’s probably as gifted of an offensive linemen that we have seen in many years,” Kelly said on Signing Day in 2012.

Stanley proved early that Kelly wasn’t blowing smoke. He saw the field in 2012’s first two games, earning reps against Navy and Michigan before he suffered an elbow injury that allowed him to save a year of eligibility.

But even offseason surgery didn’t prevent Stanley from stepping into the starting lineup, flipping to right tackle and playing 13 games in a very successful sophomore campaign across from first rounder Zack Martin.

Even though Stanley was blossoming into one of college football’s best players, we still openly wondered who would slide to fill Martin’s left tackle spot. (That’s how it goes with offensive linemen, their work only truly appreciated by those with either inside information or a coach’s eye of evaluation.)

In his opening comments before spring practice in 2014, Kelly named Steve Elmer, Christian Lombard and Mike McGlinchey as candidates along with Stanley, so it wasn’t necessarily a lock for the staff yet either. But it took just a few practices for the Las Vegas native to solidify his spot on the left side.

Stanley’s first season at left tackle was so solid that some wondered if there’d be two. While some of the online analysts saw Stanley as a potentially elite draft pick, the NFL Advisory Board came back with a second-round grade, perhaps all Stanley needed as he made his decision to stick around for his senior season. Still, Notre Dame took no chance. Kelly, Harry Hiestand and Jack Swarbrick traveled to Las Vegas to sell Stanley on the virtues of a final season in South Bend.

It worked. With a healthy offseason and weight-room gains needed, Stanley stuck to the script and played a mostly anonymous 2015 season. That was a very good thing—only along the offensive line can All-American honors and being named Offensive Player of the Year be considered ho-hum.

Add in the vanilla off-the-field life, and an elite academic profile that’s a comfort to teams investing millions in a potential cornerstone, Stanley’s placement as a Top 10 pick should have never been in doubt. While he lacked the dominance at Notre Dame that we saw from Zack Martin, he possesses athleticism and a body that Martin wasn’t given—a big reason the Cowboys shifted him inside to guard from day one.

Picked instead of Laremy Tunsil amidst a bizarre scenario that’ll go down as one of the draft’s cautionary tales, John Harbaugh talked openly about his relationship with Harry Hiestand and the comfort that came from Notre Dame’s offensive line coach as they pulled the trigger on Stanley. And Stanley, almost epitomizing that faith that the Ravens showed, all but embodied that when he told Joe Flacco in his first visit to Baltimore that he celebrated his selection by heading back to his hotel room and going to sleep.

Counted on by Baltimore to be a key piece of the puzzle as the Ravens look to rebuild an offensive line tasked with protecting a franchise quarterback in his prime, now it’s up to Notre Dame’s highest draft pick since Rick Mirer to continue his ascent.

Five Irish players sign UFA contracts

Matthias Farley

Notre Dame had seven players selected in the 2016 NFL Draft, trailing only Ohio State, Clemson and UCLA on the weekend tally. But after the draft finished, the Irish had five more players get their shot at playing on Sundays.

Chris Brown signed with the Dallas Cowboys. Romeo Okwara will begin his career with the New York Giants. Matthias Farley and Amir Carlisle signed contracts with the Arizona Cardinal. Elijah Shumate agreed to a contract with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

After missing two seasons, Ishaq Williams will be at Giants rookie camp next weekend as well, working as a tryout player. Expect Jarrett Grace to receive similar opportunities.

Count me among those that thought both Brown and Okwara would hear their names called. Brown’s senior season, not to mention his intriguing measureables, had some projecting him as early as the fifth round.

Okwara, still 20 years old and fresh off leading Notre Dame in sacks in back-to-back seasons, intrigued a lot of teams with his ability to play both defensive end and outside linebacker. He’ll get a chance to make the Giants—the team didn’t draft a defensive end after selecting just one last year, and they’re in desperate need of pass rushers.

Both Shumate and Farley feel like contenders to earn a spot on rosters, both because of their versatility and special teams skills. Shumate played nickel back as a freshman and improved greatly at safety during 2015. Farley bounced around everywhere and was Notre Dame’s special teams captain.

Carlisle might fit a similar mold. He played running back, receiver and returned kicks and punts throughout his college career. With a 4.4 during Notre Dame’s Pro Day, he likely showed the Cardinals enough to take a shot, and now he’ll join an offense with Michael Floyd and Troy Niklas.


Robertson picks Cal over Notre Dame, UGA

Demetris Robertson

Demetris Robertson‘s decision wasn’t trending in Notre Dame’s direction. But those that expected the Savannah star athlete to pick the in-state Bulldogs were in for a surprise when Robertson chose Cal on Sunday afternoon.

Notre Dame’s pursuit of the five-star athlete, recruited to play outside receiver and hopefully replace Will Fuller, likely ended Sunday afternoon with Robertson making the surprise decision to take his substantial talents to Berkeley. And give credit to Robertson for doing what he said all along—picking a school that’ll give him the chance to earn an exceptional education and likely contribute from Day One.

“I am excited to take my talents to the University of California, Berkeley. The first reason is that the education was a big part of my decision. I wanted to keep that foundation,” Robertson said, per CFT. “When I went there, it felt like home. Me and the coaching staff have a great relationship. That’s where I felt were the best of all things for me.”

Adding one final twist in all of this is that Robertson has no letter-of-intent to sign. Because he’s blown three months through Signing Day, Robertson merely enrolls at a college when the time comes. That means until then, Kirby Smart and the Georgia staff will continue to sell Robertson on staying home and helping the Dawgs rebuild. Smart visited with Robertson Saturday night and had multiple assistant coaches at his track meet this weekend.

Summer school begins in June for Notre Dame. Their freshman receiving class looks complete with early enrollee Kevin Stepherson and soon-to-arrive pass-catchers Javon McKinley and Chase Claypool.

Sheldon Day drafted in 4th round by Jaguars

North Carolina v Notre Dame

Former Notre Dame captain Sheldon Day didn’t have to wait long on Saturday to hear his name called. The Indianapolis native, All-American, and the Irish’s two-time defensive lineman of the year was pick number 103, the fourth pick of the fourth round on Saturday afternoon.

Day was the seventh Irish player drafted, following first rounders Ronnie Stanley and Will Fuller, second round selections Jaylon Smith and Nick Martin, and third rounders KeiVarae Russell and C.J. Prosise.

Day has a chance to contribute as he joins the 24th-ranked defense in the league. Joining a draft class heavy on defensive players—Jalen Ramsey, Myles Jack and Yannick Ngakoue already picked ahead of him—the front seven will also include last year’s No. 3 overall pick Dante Fowler, who missed the entire season with a knee injury.

Scouted by the Jaguars at the Senior Bowl, Day doesn’t necessarily have the size to be a traditional defensive tackle. But under Gus Bradley’s attacking system (Bradley coordinated the Seahawks defense for four seasons), Day will find a niche and a role in a young defense that’s seen a heavy investment the past two years.