Best of St. Patty's Day: Brady vs. Jimmy, Irish March Madness

As we creep closer to spring football, writers have gotten a little bit more creative when coming up with content with news and information hard to come by. Here are a couple ideas I wish I would’ve come up with first:

* Over at, the boys take on a wonderful debate topic: Brady vs. Jimmy. What former quarterback would Charlie Weis — again an NFL coordinator — want on his team?

Here’s a quick rundown of their picks:


Brady Quinn would be the easy pick for Charlie to take. Brady’s college
line reads like this. 929-1,602 for 58%. 11,762 passing yards, 95 TD’s
and only 39 INT’s for a rating of 134.4. Oh yeah, he also rushed for 6
TD’s in his career as the master of the QB sneak. At 6’4″ 235 the dude
is a beast. Brady was recruited under Ty Willingham and became the
starter as a freshman. It wasn’t until Quinn’s JR year that his success
took off under Charlie Weis.

The thing that really sets Brady apart from Jimmy Clausen is 353 passing
attempts. Thats 353 more passing attempts in the NFL that Jimmy Clausen
has. Quinn has played in 15 NFL games. He has experience reading
coverage’s, trying to figure out pre-snap disguises and has had game
time to adjust to the speed of the game.  Brady’s numbers might not be
the best in the NFL, but they are NFL numbers nonetheless. He completed
over half his passes and he has more career TD’s than INT’s. He did all
this while playing behind a porous line for the Browns and had almost
zero talent at the skill positions. Brady is clearly the better option
for Charlie to take.


Jimmy’s numbers may be less than Brady’s, but he also had one less year
as he is forgoing his senior year for the NFL. There is no doubt that
Jimmy was certainly on pace to break Brady’s ND records. Jimmy was a
standout college QB, but there are more than just numbers with Jimmy
Clausen. No question about it, Jimmy and Charlie are forever linked
together… Jimmy was Charlie’s first big get. The number one QB coming out of high
school, Jimmy chose ND to specifically work with Charlie Weis. Since
Jimmy arrived on campus the two went through a veritable gauntlet

On a purely technical side, it would be much easier for Weis to pick up
right where he left off with Jimmy. Brady has been out of the Weis
system for three years, and it might take some getting used to for Brady
if he wound up in KC. Jimmy has proved he has the arm, the accuracy,
and the guts to make it in the pros. He left ND because Weis got fired,
there is no question these two share a bond, which is why Clausen would
be the best fit for KC. Jimmy’s numbers + bond with Charlie = Jimmy
rules (That’s exact science).

Since I’m hijacking this post, I might as well give my opinion on the argument, too. If I’m the Kansas City Chiefs right now, I’m probably choosing to work with Brady Quinn, though it isn’t because Charlie Weis told me so. Jimmy Clausen is going to cost a team a first round draft pick and a lot of guaranteed dollars. The market for Brady Quinn was softer than baby food. A sixth round pick and a run first fullback for a guy that you traded a number one pick for? More importantly, you’ve got to negotiate a contract with Clausen’s representatives, which likely will keep him tied up negotiating into training camp. That’s the exact kind of scenario that kept Quinn out of camp his rookie year and put him behind Derek Anderson to begin with. Intangibly, I think Brady’s the better leader, better teammate, and he’s already been through the circus before with significant NFL experience. But if I was picking quarterbacks on the sand lot and I wanted to win, it’d be a lot harder to call BQ’s name first. 

Great debate topic by the guys at Subway Domer, especially on St. Patrick’s Day.

* Over at Under the Golden Dome, Nick Shepkowski brings March Madness to Notre Dame football, with a NCAA-style bracket to determine who the best Irish football player is of the last 25 years.

Shep’s broken the brackets into four groups: Quarterbacks, Defense/O-Line, WR/TE, and Running Backs. There are some heated battles too: No. 4 seed Tommy Zbikowski vs. No. 5 seed Justin Tuck and No. 4 Golden Tate vs. No. 5 Derrick Mayes.

If I had a bone to pick, it’d be with the selection committee. Putting all the defensive players in the same group as offensive lineman? Slotting Maurice Stovall as the sixth best wide receiver or tight end of the last 25 years, when Michael Floyd ranks eighth and John Carlson ranks seventh? Rhema McKnight could be there before Stovall. And where’s Shane Walton, Notre Dame’s last consensus first team All-American before Golden Tate made it there this season?

Arguing seeding is half the fun with a story like that and great conversation piece among Notre Dame fans who might spend the evening carousing. 

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    Where Notre Dame was & is: Defensive Line

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    Heading into spring practice, a quick look was taken at each position group in order of “expected level of interest or question marks,” from least interesting to most, as dictated by an “Inside the Irish” reader. That series concluded with the defensive line.

    Exiting spring practice, let’s reprise that premise and reverse the order. If the defensive line triggered the most questions, then answering them first seems to make some version of sense.

    “Will enough defensive linemen prove themselves deserving of playing time to create a viable threat up front?” this space asked. “If so, who will those linemen be?”

    RELATED READING: One day until spring practice: A look at the defensive line

    Aside from senior end Andrew Trumbetti (26 tackles last season, 0.5 for loss), senior tackle Daniel Cage (10 tackles, 0.5 for loss amid a season lost largely to concussion) and junior tackle Jerry Tillery (37, 3), the Irish defensive line had little track record to cite or rely upon for confidence. Leading the unknowns and unprovens were sophomore ends Daelin Hayes, who recorded 11 tackles in 2016, and Julian Okwara (4).

    The lack of depth and experience was apparent heading into the 15 spring practices.

    Look past the 11 sacks in the Blue-Gold Game. Intrasquad scrimmages featuring red-jerseyed quarterbacks make for inexact and context-less statistics. There is some value, however, in noting the defensive line got within reach of the quarterback at least eight times in an abbreviated game. (Three “sacks” came from the linebacker corps.)

    “We showed [pressure] in as far as the quarterback wasn’t getting really comfortable, not having all day to throw back there,” Hayes said. “I think it’s been huge, just buying into that process. Seeing it come to fruition today was huge.”

    RELATED READING: What we learned: Hayes, Book star in Notre Dame’s spring finale

    Hayes led the way with three sacks, and he will be expected to continue that in the fall, starting at the weakside/rush defensive end spot. Exiting spring, though, only he and Tillery solidified themselves as starters. Nonetheless, defensive coordinator Mike Elko claimed a successful spring for the front.

    “I’m happy with our defensive line progress,” Elko said Friday. “Obviously there was a lot written about that group. I’m happy about the progress they’ve made this spring. I think [defensive line coach] Mike [Elston] has done a good job developing them. I think they are buying into the way we want to play defense. There’s probably four to five guys on the inside that are starting to get into a position where we feel comfortable that they can step in and help us.” (more…)

    Brian Kelly & Jack Swarbrick on Notre Dame’s changes moving forward


    Whether 2016’s disappointing 4-8 finish was the impetus to program-wide alterations at Notre Dame this offseason, it certainly underscored the need. For the last few months, Irish coach Brian Kelly has focused those changes on himself and self-assessment, and he reiterated that approach when talking with PFT Live’s Mike Florio early Monday morning.

    “This is my 27th year of being a head coach, and prior to last year I had one losing season,” Kelly said. “You have a way of doing things, you have a system in place, you follow that year after year. Certainly you make tweaks along the way, but this is the first time where I’ve really taken a step back and made substantial changes in terms of how I’m doing things on a day-to-day basis…

    “From my perspective, after being at it as long as I have, you have to take it on yourself that you’re the one that needs to make the corrections. It’s not the players.”

    None of this is new. Kelly has been consistent in his springtime messaging, but others have looked past the effects of the 4-8 record and insist the changes were coming regardless of the win-loss totals. Senior captain Drue Tranquill, for example, acknowledged the severity of the losing record Friday but argued adjustments were needed no matter what the final scores were.

    “If you have an average season like 8-4, some things might carry over to the next season,” Tranquill said the day before the spring practice finale. “Whereas when you go 4-8, something has to change.

    “But I think even at Notre Dame, 8-4 is never really acceptable or tolerated. Those things that were taking place, just within our culture, would have been noticed whether we were 10-3, 4-8. The criticism gave it a lot more hype and juice. We could kind of feel as guys in the program throughout the past three years that certain things needed to change.

    “Those things were finally brought to light and it happened to be during a 4-8 season. I don’t necessarily know that 4-8 was the reason all this change happened.”

    New Irish defensive coordinator Mike Elko expressed a similar sentiment Friday morning, discussing the pressure moving forward.

    “If we were coming off a 12-0 season in which we were competing for the national championship, there would be pressure on us at Notre Dame to be successful this year,” Elko said. “That’s Notre Dame.”

    Elko has been a quick study, as his comments were echoed the next day by Irish director of athletics Jack Swarbrick during NBC Sports Network’s broadcast of the Blue-Gold Game.

    “We expect to compete for national championships and 4-8 is not acceptable,” Swarbrick said. “On the other hand, when you’re in that situation, you have to decide how you’re going to move forward. We decided to move forward by making a major investment in retooling our program with Brian as the leader of it. That’s not a one-year investment for us. We brought in some talented assistant coaches. We rebuilt elements of the program

    “We view it as a multi-year investment going forward.”

    Using this week’s NFL Draft as a peg, Florio also asked Kelly about balancing players’ NFL aspirations with team success both in the recruiting process and during the actual season.

    “We have to talk more in terms of process over production,” Kelly responded. “We talk in terms of you’re coming to Notre Dame for a reason. You’re going to get a degree, which will set you up for the rest of your life, and you’re going to play on the grandest stage at Notre Dame, so everybody will see you.

    “As long as there’s the balance there—and there has to be that balance in terms of getting your education and playing for championships—then we’re okay. It’s when that balance is out of whack, we’ll have an issue. We vet that out in the recruiting process and make sure we don’t take any kids that are coming to Notre Dame just because they’re waiting for that [junior] year to complete so they can go to the draft.”

    A reminder: The NFL Draft begins with its first round Thursday night. Kelly will be joining former Irish quarterback DeShone Kizer at the draft in Philadelphia to await Kizer’s destination and future employer.

    It is available for streaming: here.

    Following spring practice, will Notre Dame continue habitual progress?

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    By no means is Irish coach Brian Kelly going to measure Alizé Mack’s progress by if the junior tight end makes his bed every morning. Mack’s mother might—mine would certainly factor it in—but when Kelly cited the need to start the day with hospital corners, he was simply trying to make a point.

    “He’s taking care of business off the field, which invariably it always comes back to this,” Kelly said Wednesday. “If you’re taking care of work in the classroom and you’re starting the day right, making your bed—I’m just using that analogy—if you start the day right, it’s going to trend the right way and it’s trending the right way on the field for him.”

    Mack is the most obvious example of a needed change in habits. When you miss a season due to academic issues, reconfiguring your priorities becomes a topic of conversation. His instance, though, serves as a readily-cited example of a more widespread concern. Of all the optimistic conversation and concerted change following last season’s 4-8 disappointment, Kelly’s preaching of good habits simultaneously appears as the most abstract aspect and the easiest understood.

    “It starts with guys being aware of it first,” Kelly said following Notre Dame’s Blue-Gold Game on Saturday. “Then once they are aware that they need to have these good habits to be good football players, then you start to see it show itself in good run support angles. You see it offensively, guys always lined up properly. We had very few penalties today, and that’s a product of some of the habits that are being built on a day-to-day basis.”

    It makes sense. If a receiver doesn’t realize he lined up a few feet closer to the sideline than desired, for example, then he will make that same mistake the next time, especially if he still makes a catch on the play. Next time, the defensive back may be more able to capitalize on the gift of less route uncertainty.

    It is unrealistic to expect anyone, let alone a 19- or 20-year-old, to display this exacting discipline on the football field without practicing it throughout the rest of the day. Successfully cutting corners in one area of life convinces the psyche it can be done anywhere. Thus, Kelly has needed to harp on his charges about their off-field activities, including—but perhaps not seriously—making their beds.

    “I think we ask our guys to do a number of different things on a day-to-day basis,” Kelly said. “First of all, understanding how habits carry over to what they do in the classroom and what they do on the football field.”

    Kelly and his coaching staff have had four months to make this impression. The issue is, bad habits are hard to break. They’re usually more fun, anyway. As Kelly pointed out, the rewards of good habits are slow in coming. Delayed gratification, if you will.

    “I think our guys understand that it takes time to build those habits, because some of them have bad habits, and to get rid of those bad habits, you really have to be creating good habits over a long period of time,” Kelly said. “That’s the process that is hard for these guys, because it takes time, and they want it to happen right away.

    “Sometimes they forget and they just want to go out and play. If you go out and play, but you don’t do it the right way, it’s going to get you beat.”

    This all sounds well and good, and some of the effects were evident Saturday. There were few penalties (none, in fact, according to the official statistics), the quarterbacks took advantage of the receiving corps’ size and missed their targets high. But soon comes the toughest time to continue this trend.

    Kelly and his staff have worked on the Irish to internalize these lessons. Now, Kelly and his staff will cover the country in recruiting. In a few weeks, the players will scatter home for a break before returning for a summer session spent in the weight room and classroom. If they slip back into old habits, the last four months were spent fruitlessly.

    Mack played well Saturday. The question has never been does he have physical talent. He undeniably does.

    The question has been, is and will be: Did you make your bed today, Alizé?

    What we learned: Hayes, Book star in Notre Dame’s spring finale

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    Time spent on a traditional game wrap of a spring intrasquad exhibition seems misspent. Gold won Notre Dame’s annual Blue-Gold Game 27-14 led by rising sophomore quarterback Ian Book. The first-string defense (Gold) held the first-string offense to an average of 5.4 yards per play. For context’s sake: Last season Notre Dame gained an average of 6.1 yards per play and held opponents to 5.4.

    With that abbreviated recap out of the way, what did Saturday’s pseudo-game environment show about the Irish? If the 20,147 in attendance paid attention, they had the chance to learn a few things:

    Daelin Hayes will be ready to hit a quarterback in September
    Notre Dame’s quarterbacks were off limits all spring. Bulls might charge when they see red, but the Irish defensive line has had to remember to ease up when they come across a quarterback’s red jersey. If sophomore defensive end Daelin Hayes had forgotten that Saturday, Notre Dame might not have any quarterbacks left to play in the fall.

    “At the end of the day, we’re on the same team,” Hayes said, dismissing any bitterness about the quarterbacks’ protections. “We have to keep our guys healthy. I wasn’t frustrated, but come September 2, you know.”

    Officially, Hayes was credited with three sacks and another tackle for loss among his seven tackles. Admittedly, gauging sacks is tricky when the quarterback does not actually go to the ground. How many of Hayes’ three sacks and the defense’s 11 total would have been evaded if the defender needed to do more than touch the passer? That answer is highly subjective, but discounting Hayes’ numbers would miss the bigger picture.

    “We showed [pressure] in as far as the quarterback wasn’t getting really comfortable, not having all day to throw back there,” Hayes said. “I think it’s been huge, buying into that process. Seeing it come to fruition today was huge.”

    Senior end Jay Hayes (no relation) notched two sacks and sophomore end Ade Ogundeji came the closest to tackling a red jersey when he stripped junior quarterback Brandon Wimbush from behind. The defensive line has been expected to be a weak point for the Irish moving forward, but the spring performance indicates it has a chance at holding its own. These accomplishments bear further merit considering Notre Dame’s offensive line is widely-considered one of its few spots of expected quality.

    RELATED READING: Now is the time for Daelin Hayes to turn athleticism into pass rush threat

    “I think it’s pretty clear Daelin Hayes is going to be around the football and be a disruptive player for us,” Irish coach Brian Kelly said. “I’d have to watch the film, but it seemed like [sophomore end] Julian Okwara was a hard guy to block coming off the edge, as well.”

    Ian Book provides some peace of mind
    Book was not spectacular, but he was also far from incompetent or intimidated. In his first action on the field at Notre Dame Stadium, Book completed 18-of-25 passes for 271 yards and a touchdown, highlighted by a 58-yard connection with sophomore receiver Kevin Stepherson. Meanwhile, junior Brandon Wimbush completed 22-of-32 passes for 303 yards.

    Bluntly, one has not needed to follow Notre Dame for very long to fit that “long enough” qualification. Last season’s backup, Malik Zaire, saw competitive action against both Texas and Stanford. In 2015, DeShone Kizer came off the bench to start 11 games after Zaire suffered a season-ending ankle injury. (more…)