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Counting down the Irish: 10-6

Jul 16, 2010, 11:01 AM EST

Get caught up on the rankings and read the lists for 25-21, 20-16, and 15-11.

As the list gets closer to the top, the usual suspects seem to pop up. I’ll leave the analysis for Monday when we unveil the top-five, but here are the rankings for 10-6 on the Irish roster.

Gotta hand it to Pat for his ranking of Ben Turk. That’s an absolutely bold pick, and I’d tend to give him the Billy Madison treatment, but I appreciate him throwing it out there, and I don’t want Turk to beat me up for trashing his ranking.

On to the rankings…

Frank of UHND;

10. Ian Williams, NT: Williams looked his best as a frosh in a 3-4 defense, but wasn’t as effective the past two seasons.
9. Dayne Crist, QB: If Crist ends the season higher up on this list, Notre Dame fans will be very, very happy with year one of Brian Kelly.
8. Armando Allen, RB: He might not have developed into the home run threat we all thought he would be, but he’s become a very good all-around back.
7. Darius Fleming, OLB: Fleming has the potential to be a lot higher on this list and should put up impressive sack and tackle for loss totals this year.
6. Chris Stewart, LG: Stewart is going to be one of the leaders of the team this season and has come a long way during his career.

Anthony of Clashmore Mike:

10. Trevor Robinson, OL: Great agility and mean streak are a strong combination.
9. Steve Filer, OLB: May be the best athlete among the outside linebackers.
8. Ethan Johnson, DE: Moving back to his more natural position should pay dividends.
7. Chris Stewart, LG: Road grading lineman has great agility and is the leader of the front five.
6. Gary Gray, CB: Possibly the best all-around member of the secondary.

Matt of Her Loyal Sons:

10. Kapron Lewis-Moore, DE: The highest solo tackle count among defensive linemen in 2009.
9. Steve Filer, OLB: Our stats show that if he’s on the field, he’s actually busy making tackles.
8. Armando Allen, RB: Career rushing yards per carry of 4.5. Just a shoestring away from breaking out big one of these days.
7. Manti Te’o: Instincts and speed for catching his prey not seen since Jurassic Park.
6. Brian Smith, OLB: Still the leader of the linebacker pack, even in terms of tackles.

Chris and Matt of Rakes of Mallow:

10. Darius Fleming, OLB: Fleming is a hair less athletic than his fellow Chicagoan Filer, but he’s got football smarts to really make an impact in Diaco’s “No-Crease” 3-4 defense.
9. Chris Stewart, LG: Can we please nickname this fifth-year 1L “The Professor” or “The Judge?”
8. Kapron Lewis-Moore, DE: The big man from Texas showed flashes last year after spending his redshirt bulking up. A true 3-4 DE, this could be a big year for the man they call KLM.
7. Ethan Johnson, DE: The big muchacho is finally back where he belongs as a 3-4 DE. Let your talents show, sir.
6. Ian Williams, NT: My little brother tells me that Ian Williams is a blast to hang out with. Also, he’s big and awesome.

Pat, man of the people:

10. Ben Turk, P: Hear me out. Turk’s 38-yard average may look poor but that is a misleading stat. After a poor start and absolutely atrocious performance against Pitt, Turk averaged 45.5 yards per punt on his next 8 kicks. For a frame of reference, the 2008 Ray Guy Winner Matt Fodge averaged 42.9 yards per boot.
9. Chris Stewart, LG: Provides experience and size on the line that seemed to struggle during Weis’ tenure.
8. Armando Allen, RB: Second in total offense last year, has the ability to be a true dual-threat RB in Kelly’s spread offense.
7. Kapron Lewis-Moore, DE: After a decent year last season, he has the ability to really shine in Kelly’s defensive system.
6. Ethan Johnson, DE: Arguably the best player on ND’s D-line, Johnson racked up only 32 tackles last season but he did lead the team in sacks.

Keith:

10. Ian Williams, NT: I think the senior plugger will put together a nice final season in the middle of a 3-4 front.
9. Darius Fleming, OLB: Fleming’s been the only guy who seemed to make plays behind the line of scrimmage under the previous regime. Put him in a defensive system that thrives making plays behind the line, and I expect big things out of him.
8. Dayne Crist, QB: This could be too high or too low, but Kelly’s exploits with quarterbacks in his system give every reason to think Crist, a highly-touted prospect, will thrive.
7. Armando Allen, RB: I’ve got a hunch that the knock against Allen — who for some reason can’t break a long run — will be non-existent after running behind Ed Warinner’s offensive line.
6. Brian Smith, OLB: I’m obviously higher on Smith than most, but he’s got everything needed to be a very good drop linebacker in this system. He may have lost some fan’s confidence, but he’s got the coaching staff’s. 

  1. BrianM - Jul 16, 2010 at 1:40 PM

    Anthony’s pick of Gary Gray as “possibly the best all-around member of the secondary” is, frankly, terrifying. I watched Gray get lost in open space, get burned badly, and fail to wrap up tackles entirely too many times last year to be at all comfortable with the prospect of him being the best player in the secondary.
    I know the kid’s got talent, and I’m sure that his mistakes had a lot to do with coaching deficiencies and/or his head not being fully in the game, but I hope for the sake of all of us that those issues have been resolved if he’s going to be leading the secondary.

  2. TLNDMA - Jul 16, 2010 at 4:53 PM

    Manti T-Rex !!!

  3. tony chapman - Jul 16, 2010 at 6:34 PM

    Everybody can say what they want about the upcoming season and the potential abilities of the players. The bottom line is we will know in the first game if this is a better fundamental football team. If they are, Irish faithful will enjoy watching them – win or lose – and not agonizing, which has often been the case for quite a number of years.

  4. Tommy Irish - Jul 16, 2010 at 7:31 PM

    all i can say is i cant wait should b a quite interesting season !!! GOOOOO IRISH!!!

  5. Glory Hound - Jul 17, 2010 at 12:55 AM

    It would be interesting to see a postseason review of the top 25 players to compare to the preseason predictions.

  6. Brendan - Jul 17, 2010 at 12:46 PM

    How does collegefootballtalk break the ND drinking arrest story before you? Especially with the key players arrested:
    Nicholas Tausch: Our starting kicker
    Steven Filer: Our best OLB
    TJ Jones: Our rookie phenom WR
    Chris Watt: The number 1 OG recruit in the country in 09 recruiting class. 5-star kid. Will see solid time this year.
    Hell, NDnation doesn’t even have info on it yet…
    Thank GOD Saracino retired.

  7. Art Vandelay - Jul 17, 2010 at 2:55 PM

    Let’s hope Res Life doesn’t over-react to this drinking business. I really fear that they will think they have to make some kind of statement here especially in the wake of the Ragone incident which was swept under the rug pretty quickly, raising more than a few eyebrows in the process. Some of these guys that were busted figure prominently on your lists above and it would be tough to lose them to a suspension for a few games right from the get go. We have to seriously review our drinking legislation in this country. Studies have shown more binge drinking occurs on campus by underclassmen because of the law. Kids want to drink a lot in order to get their buzz on quickly before they go out to a club where they will be carded and denied alcohol. To deny alcohol to those kids who are 18 to 20 only makes them want it more. We are so freakin puritanical with booze and sex in this country….when are we gonna wake up? Sure, go to Afghanistan and get your ass blown off but you can’t have a beer. Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me.

  8. mikeford - Jul 17, 2010 at 11:56 PM

    Check this kid out! Impressive and just had a visit to SB……

  9. mikeford - Jul 17, 2010 at 11:58 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWFab7siVQ8&feature=player_embedded

  10. piratey - Jul 18, 2010 at 11:21 AM

    Can I talk expansion? Like realistic expansion?
    (per ISD)
    The Big East is trying to expand with it’s basketball members…You immediately think Notre Dame but Villanova could be a more realistic option, according to the Charleston (W Va.) Gazette.
    “Villanova is the most likely candidate to make the UConn-like jump,” according to the paper. “The Wildcats won the Football Championship Series national title last fall. They play in a league – the Colonial – that has emerged as the best in the FCS of late and has a pretty good track record of upsetting Football Bowl Subdivision teams.”
    That would give the Big East a cushion in case of Big 10(12) raiding. Not only that, but it gives the Big East 9 teams which makes it EXTREMELY attractive to Kansas, Kansas State and Mizzou. When the Big XII blows up, those three schools can join the Big East, giving the conference twelve teams and a championship game. It also turns the Big East into the most powerful basketball conference in the land.
    This ALSO throws a wrench in the super four conference plan. Do the math, Big 10(12), Pac-whatever, SEC, ACC and Big East. 5 Conferences. So the format would be a 6 team playoff, with the top 2 ranked teams getting a bye and an at-large team playing as the 6th team. Allowing Notre Dame to remain independent.
    So Domers…it looks like we ought to be rooting for ‘Nova on Saturdays this fall.

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