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Pregame Twelve Pack: Michigan State edition

Sep 17, 2010, 12:30 AM EDT

Round three of the Pregame Twelve Pack. Twelve fun facts, tidbits,
leftovers, or miscellaneous musings as we head into the Michigan State
game.

1. Charlie Weis may have been a Bon Jovi guy, but Brian Kelly is a Van Halen man.

While the real news should be that defensive line/special teams coach Mike Elston has been released from the hospital, Brian Kelly gave everybody a snap-back to the 80s moment by comparing Elston’s return to the band dynamics of Van Halen.

“Van Halen was just OK with Sammy Hagar,” Kelly said. “David Lee Roth was still what
made Van Halen. So we had Sammy Hagar in this week. Wasn’t too bad. But
David Lee Roth is back. He’s the rock star around here.”

Not sure Kelly would be wise to start playing “Running With the Devil” at the LaBar practice fields, but as one reporter pointed out, it might have been the first Van Halen reference by a football coach in Notre Dame history.

Elston received a standing ovation from the team when he returned to The Gug this afternoon. He’ll be joining the team in East Lansing, but won’t do so in a coaching capacity, with Lorenzo Guess filling in at tight ends coach and Mike Denbrock shifting down to defensive line while also spear-heading the special teams.

2. Dan McCarthy returns as the safety position slowly heals itself.

Last week we took the time machine back to November of 2007 to find out more about walk-on safety Chris Salvi, who was suddenly thrust into the two-deep at safety with injuries to both Dan McCarthy and Jamoris Slaughter. This week it looks like we’ll finally see the younger McCarthy brother roaming the secondary.

“McCarthy moved around pretty good today. He’s a go,” Kelly said. “Slaughter is
probably emergency backup. That’s the way it looked today. He got, for
the first time, McCarthy, real reps in seven-on-seven. And I know our guys were
excited in practice that he’s ready to go.”

Kelly described McCarthy’s injury as a soft-tissue problem that’s befuddled the Irish training staff as they’ve tried to find a solution. It’ll be interesting to finally see Dan McCarthy in the secondary. He clocked only one minute of playing time last year and made 15 special teams appearances, but all reports had McCarthy as an elite high school athlete and a guy who has all the tools to be a playmaking safety. Getting on the field was the first step, and with Slaughter injured and only three scholarship safeties available, this could be the breakout game needed for Dan to make his mark.

3. They will be battling for the Megaphone Trophy.

While many people don’t associate Michigan State as a true rivalry, the Irish and Spartans will be battling for the cherished Megaphone Trophy, a keepsake that has been sponsored jointly by the school’s alumni clubs in Detroit since 1949.

The megaphone is half-blue with a gold ND monogram on it and half white with a green MSC for Michigan State. Every game since 1949’s score is printed on the Megaphone, with the winning team holding onto the trophy for the year.

After 36 consecutive years of playing for the Megaphone, the Irish took a two year break in 1995 and 1996. The next interruption is scheduled for 2014 and 2015.

4. Playing under the lights is a rare occurrence in Spartan Stadium.

There have only been nine night games in the 87-year history of Spartan Stadium, and the Irish have been a part of three of them. Notre Dame holds a 2-1 record at night against Michigan State. Here’s a recap of the three primetime face-offs:

September 9, 1998: MSU 45, No. 10 ND 23 — After springing the upset on the defending national champs in Michigan, the Irish got drilled by Nick Saban’s Spartans, who had a staggering 42-3 lead at half before cruising to a 45-23 victory. “I’m embarrassed, this football team’s embarrassed,” head coach Bob Davie said. “There’s
not going to be a whole lot of talk about it. I think we came in here expecting
to play well and we didn’t. We had no chance because of our execution.”

September 18, 2004: ND 31, MSU 24 — The Fighting Irish defense forced six turnovers and Brady Quinn threw and ran for a touchdown. Tommy Zbikowski’s fumble strip and return for touchdown and Matt Shelton’s 123 yards on three catches helped pace the Irish win. “When we come into the team meeting and look at the film, we’re going to be very ill,” Michigan State coach John L. Smith said.

September 23, 2006: ND 40, MSU 37 — Cornerback Terrail Lambert’s interception return for a touchdown capped off a miraculous rally to help the 12th-ranked Irish escape with a narrow victory. The Irish trailed 37-21 halfway into the fourth quarter when they stormed back in a driving rainstorm. Brady Quinn threw for five touchdowns and Jeff Samardzija had two of them as Notre Dame mounted an epic comeback. “I think at halftime the guys realized the season was starting to fall away for us… It was basically ‘Hey fellas, what’s it gonna be? Are we going to be a bunch of also-rans or are we going to come out here and give it a chance to win the game?” Charlie Weis said after.

5. The new kids are alright.

Asked this afternoon about the first-year starters that were performing well, Kelly pointed out a few players that just two weeks ago were some of the biggest concerns on the team.

“After two weeks, taking both games into account, there’s a couple
players I would point out. Defensively, I’d say Carlo Calabrese – very
little experience coming in, has played consistent for two weeks in a row,” Kelly said.
“Offensively, I’d say Zack Martin – very little experience, but at the
left tackle position has done a really nice job. You could throw TJ
(Jones) in there, I think you could make the case for Taylor Dever. I
think our tackles, as first-time starters, have done a really nice job.”

The fact that we haven’t noticed Zack Martin is one of the best compliments I could give the rookie left tackle. There’s a very good chance that in three years Martin is one of those Irish players that is getting talked about weekly by guys like Mel Kiper and Todd McShay.

6. Want to beat Michigan State? Better stop the running game.

While the wins that the Spartans have put up haven’t been all that impressive, the way the running backs are putting up numbers has been pretty eye-popping. Both Le’Veon Bell and Edwin Baker are averaging over 9 yards per carry, with Baker running for 300 yards and 3 TDs in just two games and Bell pounding his way for 190 yards on only 20 carries. That’s all been done without presumed starter Larry Caper, who is returning from injury this week. Kelly knows it’ll be a test for his defense.

“We’ll know where we are defensively against the run, because we’re going
to get challenged,” Kelly said. “In the 3-4 defense, they’re going to run right at
us. We’ll find out a lot about ourselves after this weekend relative to
the running game.”

Baker is the defending CFPA National Running Back of the Week after dicing the Florida Atlantic defense for 183 yards last week. For the Irish to win, the defense will rely on the front of Ethan Johnson, Ian Williams and Kapron Lewis-Moore to step up their game.

7. It wasn’t all negative for Bob Diaco’s defense last week.

Adding to the legend of Denard Robinson wasn’t in anybody’s plans on the Notre Dame sideline last weekend, but there were plenty of positives to take out of the defensive performance, even if they did give up 502 total yards of offense to the Wolverines’ quarterback.

The Irish defense was able to force 10 punts last weekend against Michigan, the most by an Irish opponent since Rutgers punted 10 times in 2002. Michigan was only 3-for-16 on 3rd down, and the Irish forced five three-and-outs. Final stat that’ll have Irish fans kicking themselves: The Irish held Michigan scoreless for 31:24 from the second quarter until the game’s final drive.

“If we make a stop against Michigan, all that would be talked about was the 32, 33 minutes of shutting out Denard Robinson,” Kelly said.

8. The defense might not have closed, but the coaching staff did on the recruiting trail.

David Mamet’s Glengarry Glen Ross gave us the immortal line, “Coffee is for closers.” Well, there’s no coffee in the defensive team meeting room, but there should be in the coaches lounge. Recruiting coordinator Chuck Martin and personnel man Dave Peloquin certainly did their jobs off the field this weekend with the commitments of Stephon Tuitt, and George and Josh Atkinson. Defensive line coach Mike Elston handles Georgia for the Irish, so Tuitt is likely the fruits of his labor, especially coaching the position that Tuitt plays. As for the Atkinsons, credit needs to go to tight ends coach Mike Denbrock, who pulled the brothers out of California, always a victory when you’re recruiting against coaches like Lane Kiffin, Rick Neuheisel, Chip Kelly, and Steve Sarkisian.

With 19 recruits committed after just the second week of the season, expect the coaching staff to swing for the fences with their final few spots and start targeting some high-profile juniors for next season.

Just to put an issue to rest, it’s pretty certain that Brian Kelly and his coaching staff will be able to recruit just fine at Notre Dame.

9. Irish win the tale of the tape against the Spartans

Here’s an interesting comparison of the two rosters breaking down the heights and weights of the starters by position groupings.

        AVERAGE HEIGHTS & WEIGHTS

                                                                  Michigan State          Notre Dame
       Offensive Line & Tight End                 6-5, 293                    6-5, 300
       Offensive Backs & Wide Receivers    6-1, 214                    6-1, 210
       Defensive Line                                    6-4, 277                    6-3, 291
       Linebackers                                        6-1, 231                    6-2, 244
       Defensive Backs                                 6-0, 191                    6-0, 197

The Irish have a pretty distinct advantage on the front line, as well as against the undersized Michigan State linebacking corp, so it’ll be interesting to see if Notre Dame tries to pound the ball themselves.

10. Armando Allen has a shot at going down in the Notre Dame record books.

The first two games of the season have shown Irish fans a new and improved version of Armando Allen. And it’s that new running back that’ll likely go down in the school’s record books as one of the most versatile backs in Notre Dame history.

Right now, Allen sits at 8th on the all-time list for most career all-purpose yards for Irish running backs. He trails Julius Jones by nearly 1,600 yards so getting to the top of the charts might not be doable for Allen, but making his mark as the top receiving back very well could be. Armando only needs 433 receiving yards to pass Joseph Heap as the yardage leader for running backs, and only needs five catches to pass Darius Walker as the running back with the most catches in Irish history. He’s got a chance to pass Walker on Saturday, and should be able to pass Heap with a great season.

11. Common ground at Cincinnati doesn’t give either coach an upper-hand.

You’d think that Brian Kelly and Mark Dantonio’s paths would have crossed somewhere along the line, especially considering that Kelly succeeded Dantonio at Cincinnati. But according to Dantonio, there’s not much of a connection between the two coaches.

“I don’t really know him that well,” Dantonio said of Kelly. “I really don’t know him. I know of him, I know his reputation, I know he’s a great football coach, but as far as the Cincinnati thing, to me it’s sort of a non-issue. The fact that he went to Cincinnati and was able to win championships there, to me, he helped make the dreams come true for some of the players I recruited.

“When we recruited some of those players, we were just entering the Big
East, we were just getting new facilities. We recruited them with the
idea that they could do something special. The fact that they were able
to recognize that dream, and [Kelly] had a part of doing that, I think
is a huge statement for what he did for that program and what he did for
those young people. So I applaud him for that.”

12. If you’re looking for a showcase position, look no further than middle linebacker.

Most Irish fans are familiar with the exploits and potential of Manti Te’o. But if you’re looking for the class of the football field at middle linebacker, check the opposing defensive huddle. The Irish might not play a finer defensive football player this season than the Spartan’s Greg Jones, the reigning Big Ten defensive player of the year, and a returning first-team All-American. Jones has started 35 games for the Spartans, ranks second among all active players in college football with 379 career tackles, and was named to the preseason watch list of six major national awards.

Last season against the Irish, Jones had nine tackles, a total that’d rank among the top performances for Irish players this year, but a game that ranked as one of his least productive over the last two seasons.

  1. mrrandolph - Sep 17, 2010 at 8:38 AM

    Of course BK likes Van Halen with Roth better. Roth is dependent on the Van Halen team to be successful. Hagar did not need Van Halen to be successful.
    Individuals need teammates to be successful. Perfect CoachSpeak

  2. mrrandolph - Sep 17, 2010 at 8:43 AM

    Of course BK likes Van Halen with Roth better. Roth is dependent on the Van Halen team to be successful. Hagar did not need Van Halen to be successful.
    Individuals need teammates to be successful. Perfect CoachSpeak

  3. DR COPPINGER - Sep 17, 2010 at 2:19 PM

    Not much to say about the game with Michigan State, other than they
    will run anywhere on the field, with ND’s, so called defense. ND can’t win in Spartan country. It’s been a while. Can’t win at home,
    can’t win on the road. Where does that leave you? Gentleman I love ND football, but I’m 2-0, on picks that ND won and lost. ND will loose on the road. I’d like to be more positive, but they let one man, run them all over the field last Saturday. This game will be the running backs of Michigan State. 1-2 after Saturday night.

  4. TLNDMA - Sep 17, 2010 at 3:57 PM

    Dr. Gloom, would rather be correct or have ND win the game? Don’t get all fuzzy with us on the answer.

  5. #1irishfan - Sep 17, 2010 at 4:59 PM

    From a child who obviously never watched the game!!….. GO IRISH!!! BEAT THE SPARTAN!!!!!

  6. jan - Sep 17, 2010 at 6:22 PM

    Why couldn’t Coach Mike be up in the box providing perspective from above?

  7. TLNDMA - Sep 17, 2010 at 7:16 PM

    It probably has something to do with NCAA rules on the # of coaches.

  8. Tradertrik - Sep 17, 2010 at 8:08 PM

    Good Doctor,your correct. It’s been quite some time since we’ve had a decent ball club. Last year was a complete meltdown; a winless November? Please. Our defensive roster has not been very heavily recruited for some time but that appears to be changing. That will make a huge difference in the outcomes of some of these games that should be “gimmees.” I include this year’s Michigan squad in that catagory, frankly.
    I do have confidence in Coach Kelly simply because of his track record. Everywhere he’s gone he’s motivated players to win on and off the field. He’s the right kind of guy. Remember a guy named Holtz? 5-6 his first year. So let’s give this guy a chance and see what happens. Hope you don’t lose your ass tomorrow.

  9. papadec1 - Sep 18, 2010 at 1:22 AM

    Living in the Seattle area, I have to cope with the Huskie alumni egos & their dreams of Locker leading them to glory. I lost last week with ND & Syracuse vs Michigan & UWash. (Family alumni honor at stake on that one). I don’t think I’ll lose again this season – especially on the common opponent (Stanford & usc) brownie wager. If I do, it’s going to be a long season of baking. GO IRISH !!!!!!

  10. ugetwutuask4 - Sep 18, 2010 at 1:26 AM

    Hey Doc, none of State’s RBs are as fast as Mr. Robinson for one also you must not have just read what Mr. Arnold just worked hard on writing in his twelve pack on this post about what our defense accomplished in the disapointing loss. Which could have been a W if not for a play or two here and there. Michigan State is gonna play right into ND’s hands with the run game and I promise you won’t be disapointed with the outcome although you may be surprised!
    Go get ‘em Irish!!!
    PS, bend but don’t break is the key to the D.

  11. Dayton - Sep 18, 2010 at 1:55 AM

    Please Irish, give us Notre Dame fans a victory on Saturday night. I’ve been down quite a bit over the last couple of years, and I hope that this year isn’t just like the last two. Let’s get this thing going now, fellas. Let’s get that five minute plan started! I would love for the Irish to be 5-1 going into the last half of the year (softer part of the schedule).

  12. SpankMonkey - Sep 18, 2010 at 8:34 AM

    I am afraid Michigan State is good
    Really think it’s going to be a good game
    I don’t know who will win
    Sure wish ND wins
    Hope they play well
    Saturdays are getting cooler
    Usually here it is very warm
    Could it be any more exciting?
    Kitchen for some breakfast

  13. sstack - Sep 18, 2010 at 11:58 AM

    You really have to take away the positives from last week’s loss. When Crist was in, it was a dominating performance that kept the defense rested and resulted in a lop-sided scoring event. We need to protect Crist, but I’m confident the ND defense can contain the run this weekend. It’s one thing to have a dual threat with a highly mobile quarterback (although he couldn’t throw much better than Rees)but a one dimensional offense can be contained. GO IRISH!!

  14. #1irishfan - Sep 18, 2010 at 12:36 PM

    Hello……Is there anybody out there??

  15. Oklairishfan - Sep 18, 2010 at 11:59 PM

    I can’t believe that just happened

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