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Counting down the Irish: 25-21

Jul 21, 2011, 6:44 PM EST

Carlo Calabrese

As we kick off our 2011 Irish Top 25, let’s get some things out of the way quickly. This is just a list, not some objective evaluation process. Some guys I had ranked much higher than others. (It worked the other way as well.) Still, what you’ll find here is a pretty good composite projected ranking for players on the 2011 Irish roster.

Of course, lists like this are subjective by definition. I kept the qualifications light and let our panel of “experts” use their own methodology.

Once again, here is our esteemed group of panelists:

Frank Vitovitch of UHND.com
DomerMQ of HerLoyalSons.com
Eric Murtaugh of OneFootDown.com
Matt Mattare of WeNeverGradute.com
Matt & CW of RakesofMallow.com

RANKINGS

25. Taylor Dever (OT, Sr.): Dever won the right tackle job last year after seeing limited minutes as a junior and sophomore. The fifth-year senior should anchor the position he started ten games at, missing time with a hamstring injury in the heart of the season. You didn’t hear Dever’s name much last season, a good thing for a right tackle.

Highest ranking: 16th. Lowest ranking: Unranked (3 times)

24. Chris Watt (OG, Jr.): Watt is the presumed replacement for Chris Stewart, and is versatile enough to slide in at center if needed. After redshirting his freshman season, Watt played in all 13 games last season for the Irish, providing depth behind Stewart.

Highest ranking: 12th. Lowest ranking: Unranked (4 times)

23. Zeke Motta (S, Jr.): Thrown into action after an early season injury to Jamoris Slaughter, Motta learned on his feet, playing in all 13 games and starting eight opposite Harrison Smith. His improvement was evident as the season went on, and the rising junior will battle Slaughter for the job across from Smith.

Highest ranking: 19th. Lowest ranking: Unranked (2 times)

22. Aaron Lynch (DE, Fr.): One of the most highly anticipated defensive newcomers in years, Lynch lit the Blue-Gold game on fire with a dynamic performance. While he’ll probably only see the field on passing downs, Lynch has all the potential in the world.

Highest ranking: 16th. Lowest ranking: Unranked (2 times)

21. Carlo Calabrese (LB, Jr.): After sitting out his freshman season, Calabrese won the inside linebacker job opposite Manti Te’o, and started eight games before a hamstring injury took him out. He finished fifth on the team in tackles, sixth in TFLs, and fourth in sacks. He’ll compete for a starting job again this fall.

Highest ranking: 17th. Lowest ranking: 24th.

ANALYSIS

After looking at the composite list, here are a few questions I had for the panel. I’ll highlight a few answers that I found interesting.

Who did you have sitting at No. 26? Are you reconsidering after looking at everybody else’s lists?

DomerMQ @HerLoyalSons — Crist. had Crist at #26. Or maybe 40th. Or maybe lower. Wherever I had him, he wasn’t 1-25. And I’m actually feeling pretty good about it, having stolen a look at everyone’s 1-25. It went about the way I thought it would.  And I understand the points of view of the other fine members of this council, but, while this team may not be full of 1st-round talent from 1-25, it’s full of a nice bit of depth, and I just couldn’t see clear to move Crist into the top 25 given he was the QB who started in the latest loss to Navy.

Matt @WeNeverGraduate — I was tempted to stick Robby Toma in there somewhere because I think he’s going to be the guy who emerges as the most productive fourth wideout. Sean Cwynar also got some consideration thanks to his rock solid performance filling in for Ian Williams when the senior went down.

Which one of these guys has the highest upside for the season?

Eric @OneFootDown — Out of the guys from the 21-25 range it is most obviously Aaron Lynch, who could jump as many as a dozen spots or more if we were to do this ranking system at the end of the 2011 season. I also think Motta is a good bet to move up a decent amount as well.

Matt @WeNeverGraduate — I’ll tap Zeke Motta for this question. Motta improved by leaps and bounds throughout last season as he logged more and more minutes thanks to Jamoris Slaughter’s injury. He’s a freak athlete and he finally seems to be grasping the position.

Any name you think comes in too low here? Too high?

Frank @UHND — Definitely think Lynch is too low.  I know Kelly tried to downplay Lynch’s Blue-Gold game performance, but it was hard not to be impressed.  With the off-season conditioning and fall camp under his belt, I think Lynch is going to make a big impact from day 1.  No one here really looks too high.  Of the three players here I didn’t have in my rankings – Motta, Watt, and Dever – all of them were right outside of my rankings and I considered all of them right on the cusp so hard to argue with any of them.

CW&MB @RakesofMallow — I cannot shake the images of Zeka Motta’s miserable tackling angles in the 2010 Blue-Gold Game.  Even our walk-on running backs were beating him to the edge because of his lack of basic geometrical knowledge.  He played well enough during the season, but he’s the one guy in this group that I’m not sold on.

What do you think a realistic expectation is for someone that’s judged to be between the 21st and 25th best player on the Irish roster?

Frank @UHND — There are 24 starters on a team (including the kicker and punter) so any player within the top 25 should either be a solid starter or excel at a niche such as kick/punt returning, situational pass rushing, etc.  Of these five players, I expect Jones, Motta, Watt, and Calabrese all to be solid starters and in the case of Jones, Watt, and Motta I think they have the potential to be more than solid.  A guy like Lynch might not start but I fully expect him to be a pass rush specialist that makes several big plays throughout the season.

MY THOUGHTS

I’m really surprised that Sean Cwynar isn’t listed in the Top 25. In fact, I think if there’s anything I’m certain of, Sean Cwynar is one of the best 25 football players on Notre Dame’s roster. It isn’t a coincidence that the defense not only didn’t miss a beat when Ian Williams went down, but it actually improved. I’m not saying Cwynar was the key to the renaissance, but he’s going to be a very good player on the 2011 Irish. I also had Danny Spond at No. 25, and while I can understand why people haven’t started drinking the Kool-Aid yet, I wouldn’t be surprised if Spond turns into a Chad Greenway type of athlete.

Obviously, Aaron Lynch is the guy that could immediately become a top-ten player on this roster or he’ll be a guy that has some growing pains, likely due to the incredible expectations he helped heap on himself. I have a feeling he’ll be slowly eased into the process, but will make his presence felt early and often in pass-rushing downs. But don’t forget Stephon Tuitt, who didn’t enroll early, but is physically ready to play September 3rd.

Lastly, Carlo Calabrese is at an interesting inflection point. His injury derailed expectations after an impressive redshirt freshman campaign. We’ll find out if he’s ready to become an impact linebacker or a guy that makes plays because he’s lined up next to Manti Te’o.

 

 

  1. oldestguard - Jul 21, 2011 at 11:07 PM

    Great stuff…love the various points of view.

    Agree with you on Cwynar

  2. tlndma - Jul 22, 2011 at 5:57 AM

    The question with Cwynar is, how much did his off season surgey hold back his conditioning? How much strength did he lose in his lower body not being able to work out for most of the off season?
    If DMQ is right about Dayne Crist(he’s not) then we could be in for a disappointinting season. If we’re going to site the Navy game, then no one on defense can be on this list period.

    • notredamegrad - Jul 22, 2011 at 5:45 PM

      Well said, tlndma. I especially agree regarding DMQ’s critique of Crist based on the Navy game. The horrendous performance by our defense there should steal the spotlight from the offense’s poor output. There are a few things to remember in judging the offense’s performance in that game that I think take the air a bit out of the argument:

      First, Crist didn’t look great by any stretch of the imagination, but his performance interestingly matched Rees’s against USC, where ND pulled out a win. Crist went 19-31-2 against Navy, passing for 178 yards and 1 TD. Rees went 20-32-3 against USC, passing for 149 yards and 2 TDs. This, to me, highlights the key (and much noted) difference between the L and the W: defensive performance.

      Second, Crist put up those numbers against Navy without 3 of the team’s top 4 receivers – Floyd, Riddick, and Rudolph didn’t play. He also led an offense without 2 of its top 4 rushers, Gray and Hughes (Hughes was in briefly, but never touched the ball). Take Floyd and Hughes out against USC, and things turn out very differently. Give Crist back Floyd, Riddick, Rudolph, Gray, and Hughes, and I believe ND’s offense may – just may – have been able to overcome the total running-over of our defense against Navy.

    • bernhtp - Jul 23, 2011 at 7:46 AM

      I can’t imagine a great season where the QB (Crist, presumably) does not ultimately get into the top 5 given the inherently critical role his performance has to the offense.

  3. 60sdomer - Jul 22, 2011 at 11:17 AM

    Are you going to provide the individual evaluations by each panelist of the players as you did last year or continue the composite approach as indicated above? Last year I enjoyed the variety of opinions of each player. It is fun to compare each panelist’s rationale for the players and even greater fun looking back. Last year nobody had a clue how the players would perform in the new offensive and defensive schemes. This year I find myself guarding against rising expectations based on last year’s performances. I can see any number of players having extraordinary years (e.g. Crist), but I also know that some freshman could blow by any of these players (e.g. Ishaq Williams).

  4. 1historian - Jul 22, 2011 at 12:19 PM

    As of today, Friday July 22 – 6 weeks and one day

  5. trbowman - Jul 23, 2011 at 4:40 PM

    Gary Gray should be on the list. Was lights out the second half of the season, I’m expecting a big year from him.

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