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ND vs. MSU: Final questions for Joe Rexrode


There’s no day like today for the Irish. Win, and they’re one small step closer to digging themselves out of a serious hole. With a loss, well — Notre Dame is 0-3 and looking for some serious answers.

Even though the Irish are a five point favorite, the Spartans have won 10 of the last 14 and six of the last seven in Notre Dame Stadium. With the 1966 championship team in town trying to wake up some echoes, let’s get one more look at the Spartans from someone that follows them on a day-to-day basis.

Joe Rexrode of the Lansing State Journal was kind enough to answer some find questions before today’s 3:30 p.m. ET kickoff on NBC.

Inside the Irish: As someone who actually watched the wins over Youngstown State and Florida Atlantic, what do you make of the Spartans? They’ve made their way to No. 15 in the polls, but is that a product of last year’s record or was the on-field performances that impressive?

Joe Rexrode: The Spartans were quite unimpressive in the first week and then much better in the second week, especially on defense. It came against a bad Florida Atlantic offense, yes, but one first down and 48 yards allowed indicate a focused performance against anyone. MSU started the season at No. 17, I think based on last season’s performance and the return of some top players such as Kirk Cousins, Edwin Baker, Jerel Worthy and B.J. Cunningham.

ITI: Everybody saw the Notre Dame’s collapse in the Big House last weekend. What do the Spartans make of the Irish defense, a group that has played 7 quarters of good football and one really bad one?

JR: Cousins said he considers it the defense he saw in the first three quarters at Michigan. MSU offensive coordinator Dan Roushar, asked about those coverage busts, pointed out that this week the Irish won’t have to account for the running of Denard Robinson, which should help them. I think Michigan State respects the Notre Dame defense. The last half of last season was not a fluke.

ITI: We know the Spartans have some talent at running back, but the numbers haven’t been all that impressive yet. Can they get enough out of their rebuilt offensive line against an Irish defensive front that’s much better than the two the Spartans have seen?

JR: Great question and one of the keys to this game, in my opinion. Michigan State is overflowing with talented backs, starting with Edwin Baker and continuing to Le’Veon Bell (who ran for 114 yards on 17 carries vs. the Irish a year ago). The question is the line. The Spartans are more talented and athletic up there than a year ago, but far less experienced. This matchup will go a long way in determining Saturday’s outcome.

ITI: Did you hear that Notre Dame has 1,000 yards of offense but 10 turnovers? The Spartans had a historic defensive effort last Saturday against cupcake Florida Atlantic, but faces an Irish offense that’s better than the one that put up almost 400 yards in the air last year. MSU lost some important players. What’s the key to slowing ND down?

JR: Yeah, Notre Dame obviously can move the ball but has to clean up the mistakes. MSU defensive coordinator Pat Narduzzi said this will be the best passing attack his defense sees all season, and that was true last year as well. One area in which the Spartans are stronger this season is pass rush, watch for sophomore end Will Gholston. But the Irish do a great job of protecting. The key for Michigan State is to get stops in the red zone, Notre Dame will definitely throw for big yards and move the ball between the 20s.

ITI: Mark Dantonio acknowledged the saltiness of this rivalry. Notre Dame clearly isn’t Michigan, but was is it about this match-up that gets the Spartans so fired up?

JR: I’ve always kind of considered this a “friendly” rivalry, and that goes back to the early 20th century when Notre Dame really helped Michigan State build its program and get into the Big Ten. Both teams hate Michigan, so they have that in common. But personally, I just think there’s an iciness between Dantonio and Brian Kelly. Kelly made some disparaging remarks about the program he inherited at Cincinnati (he inherited it from Dantonio) when he got there, and I don’t think that sat well with Dantonio. As far as MSU’s motivation for this game — hey, doesn’t everyone get up to play Notre Dame?

ITI: Everybody’s noticed that Notre Dame is a pretty significant favorite. Is Vegas off? In a rivalry that’s tilted the Spartans way lately, what does Michigan State have to do to win?

JR: I don’t think it’s wacky to make Notre Dame the favorite in this game. Despite the fact that MSU has won six of the past seven in South Bend, this is a home game, it’s clearly a talented Notre Dame team, and it’s a must-win situation. I would have expected Notre Dame by a point or two. To win, Michigan State must run the ball — the Spartans don’t need 203 yards like they got last year in this game, but they need 150 or so — win decisively in the kicking game and get some stops in the red zone against that potent offense.


You can read more from Joe at the Lansing State Journal, both in his columns and on his blogs. Follow him on Twitter at @LSJGreenWhite

Go for two or not? Both sides of the highly-debated topic

during their game at Clemson Memorial Stadium on October 3, 2015 in Clemson, South Carolina.

Notre Dame’s two failed two-point conversion tries against Clemson have been the source of much debate in the aftermath of the Irish’s 24-22 loss to the Tigers. Brian Kelly’s decision to go for two with just over 14 minutes left in the game forced the Irish into another two-point conversion attempt with just seconds left in regulation, with DeShone Kizer falling short as he attempted to push the game into overtime.

Was Kelly’s decision to go for two the right one at the beginning of the fourth quarter? That depends.

Take away the result—a pass that flew through the fingers of a wide open Corey Robinson. Had the Irish kicked their extra point, Justin Yoon would’ve trotted onto the field with a chance to send the game into overtime. (Then again, had Robinson caught the pass, Notre Dame would’ve been kicking for the win in the final seconds…)

This is the second time a two-point conversion decision has opened Kelly up to second guessing in the past eight games. Last last season, Kelly’s decision to go for two in the fourth-quarter with an 11-point lead against Northwestern, came back to bite the Irish and helped the Wildcats stun Notre Dame in overtime.

That choice was likely fueled by struggles in the kicking game, heightened by Kyle Brindza’s blocked extra-point attempt in the first half, a kick returned by Northwestern that turned a 14-7 game into a 13-9 lead. With a fourth-quarter, 11-point lead, the Irish failed to convert their two-point attempt that would’ve stretched their lead to 13 points. After Northwestern converted their own two-point play, they made a game-tying field goal after Cam McDaniel fumbled the ball as the Irish were running out the clock. Had the Irish gone for (and converted) a PAT, the Wildcats would’ve needed to score a touchdown.

Moving back to Saturday night, Kelly’s decision needs to be put into context. After being held to just three points for the first 45 minutes of the game, C.J. Prosise broke a long catch and run for a touchdown in the opening minute of the fourth quarter. Clemson would be doing their best to kill the clock. Notre Dame’s first touchdown of the game brought the score within 12 points when Kelly decided to try and push the score within 10—likely remembering the very way Northwestern forced overtime.

After the game, Kelly said it was the right decision, citing his two-point conversion card and the time left in the game. On his Sunday afternoon teleconference, he said the same, giving a bit more rationale for his decision.

“We were down and we got the chance to put that game into a two-score with a field goal. I don’t chase the points until the fourth quarter, and our mathematical chart, which I have on the sideline with me and we have a senior adviser who concurred with me, and we said go for two. It says on our chart to go for two.

“We usually don’t use the chart until the fourth quarter because, again, we don’t chase the points. We went for two to make it a 10-point game. So we felt we had the wind with us so we would have to score a touchdown and a field goal because we felt like we probably only had three more possessions.

“The way they were running the clock, we’d probably get three possessions maximum and we’re going to have to score in two out of the three. So it was the smart decision to make, it was the right one to make. Obviously, you know, if we catch the two-point conversion, which was wide open, then we just kick the extra point and we’ve got a different outcome.”

That logic and rationale is why I had no problem with the decision when it happened in real time. But not everybody agrees.

Perhaps the strongest rebuke of the decision came from Irish Illustrated’s Tim Prister, who had this to say about the decision in his (somewhat appropriately-titled) weekly Point After column:

Hire another analyst or at least assign someone to the task of deciphering the Beautiful Mind-level math problem that seems to be vexing the Notre Dame brain-trust when a dweeb with half-inch thick glasses and a pocket protector full of pens could tell you that in the game of football, you can’t chase points before it is time… (moving ahead)

…The more astonishing thing is that no one in the ever-growing football organization that now adds analysts and advisors on a regular basis will offer the much-needed advice. Making such decisions in the heat of battle is not easy. What one thinks of in front of the TV or in a press box does not come as clearly when you’re the one pulling the trigger for millions to digest.

And yet with this ever-expanding entourage, Notre Dame still does not have anyone who can scream through the headphones to the head coach, “Coach, don’t go for two!”

If someone, anyone within the organization had the common sense and then the courage to do so, the Irish wouldn’t have lost every game in November of 2014 and would have had a chance to win in overtime against Clemson Saturday night.

My biggest gripe about the decision was the indecision that came along with the choice. Scoring on a big-play tends to stress your team as special teams players shuffle onto the field and the offense comes off. But Notre Dame’s use of a timeout was a painful one, and certainly should’ve been spared considering the replay review that gave Notre Dame’s coaching staff more time to make a decision.

For what it’s worth, Kelly’s decision was probably similar to the one many head coaches would make. And it stems from the original two-point conversion chart that Dick Vermeil developed back in the 1970s.

The original chart didn’t account for success rate or time left in the game. As Kelly mentioned before, Notre Dame uses one once it’s the fourth quarter.

It’s a debate that won’t end any time soon. And certainly one that will have hindsight on the side of the “kick the football” argument.



Navy, Notre Dame will display mutual respect with uniforms

Keenan Reynolds, Isaac Rochell

The storied and important history of Notre Dame and Navy’s long-running rivalry will be on display this weekend, with the undefeated Midshipmen coming to South Bend this weekend.

On NBCSN, a half-hour documentary presentation will take a closer look, with “Onward Notre Dame: Mutual Respect” talking about everything from Notre Dame’s 43-year winning streak, to Navy’s revival, triggered by their victory in 2007. The episode will also talk about the rivalries ties to World War II, and how the Navy helped keep Notre Dame alive during wartime.

You can catch it on tonight at 6:30 p.m. ET on NBCSN or online in the same viewing window.

On the field, perhaps an even more unique gesture of respect is planned. With Under Armour the apparel partner for both Notre Dame and Navy, both teams will take the field wearing the same cleats, gloves and baselayers. Each team’s coaching staff will also be outfitted in the same sideline gear.

More from Monday’s press release:

For the first time in college football, two opponents take the field with the exact same Under Armour baselayer, gloves and cleats to pay homage to the storied history and brotherhood between their two schools. The baselayer features both Universities’ alma maters on the sleeves and glove palms with the words “respect, honor, tradition” as a reminder of their connection to each other. Both sidelines and coaches also will wear the same sideline gear as a sign of mutual admiration.​

Navy and Notre Dame will meet for the 89th time on Saturday, a rivalry that dates back to 1927. After the Midshipmen won three of four games starting in 2007, Notre Dame hopes to extend their current winning streak to five games on Saturday.

Here’s an early look at some of the gear: