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Arik Armstead talks about his recruitment

Jan 19, 2012, 2:39 PM EST

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There’s been far too much to keep up on with the Arik Armstead recruitment, which has likely been put on the backburner for a few days as Armstead has decided to forgo early enrollment and instead sign a letter-of-intent on February 1 and enroll at the school of his choice this summer.

Depending on what you read, Notre Dame or Auburn are in the drivers’ seat for Armstead, with the recruitment of his brother Armond playing into things as well. Armond will transfer somewhere for next season, playing out his eligibility thanks to the same graduation transfer rule that allowed Dayne Crist to go to Kansas. Making things even more interesting is a medical issue that kept Armond off the field last season at USC, the school Arik was long committed to but has since eliminated. Armond will still need to be medically cleared by whatever school he attends next year.

Scout.com’s Whitney Blaine was able to sit down with Arik in the Armstead’s family home and talk about the past few days, where his head is at with recruiting, and what comes next for one of the nation’s top prospects.

Since it saves me a few thousand words describing the twists and turns of the past week, here’s the interview in its entirety.

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  1. mcirish27 - Jan 19, 2012 at 3:38 PM

    “What are you looking for most in a school?”
    “The balance between basketball and football.”

    Shut it down, Kelly. The only Armstead that’s been evaluated by Scout for basketball is Aaric (oddly enough…) Armstead who is a shooting guard. If he had said that he’s looking for a school that will give him the opportunity to earn his way on to the basketball team, then i wouldn’t be as terrified of his priorities in college choice.

    • dickasman - Jan 19, 2012 at 4:26 PM

      HAHAHAHAHAH…..yeah sure…this kids got his head on straight. Typical highly recruited pompous. Yeah right buddy. And lemme guess, you’re going to be 4 year all american in Basketball AND Football, right? Go play on facebook bud.

      Yeah, Im starting to get over this kid, F’sho…

      • nudeman - Jan 20, 2012 at 1:24 PM

        LOFL

        I have said all along the kid doesn’t want to come to ND.
        His brother getting cleared medically gives them a scintilla of hope
        If his brother doesn’t get cleared, ZERO.

    • dickasman - Jan 19, 2012 at 4:29 PM

      He should just commit to Oregon, Auburn or USC already…..He’s values and morals and ethics and beliefs align right in line with those school. I think he is looking for the highest bidder in pay for play. Let’s move on.

      Can we give his scholarship to Tommy Schutt instead? He is one of RKG’s and I don’t understand why BK would not offer him. Schutt would’ve committed to ND in a heartbeat.

      • jomilly - Jan 19, 2012 at 6:06 PM

        oh boy dickassman is talking about the morals or “those schools.” If thats the case im certain you dont meet the criteria for nd.

      • nudeman - Jan 20, 2012 at 11:11 AM

        dick
        They liked Tommy Schutt but didn’t offer him because they thought Sheldon Day was better.
        Makes no sense to spend two scholarships on a nose tackle.

        On Armstead, I don’t think he’s coming to ND. They’ve done everything for him including having Brey meet with him and tell him he could play bball for ND.

        If he really wanted to go to ND he’d be there in class now. Sounds like he prefers Auburn.

    • ndluciddreamer - Jan 20, 2012 at 3:35 PM

      I highly doubt this guy is going to ND after coach kelly signs with the colts early next week.

      • dickasman - Jan 20, 2012 at 5:09 PM

        NDlucid, are you kidding? LOLOL….Burger King’s stock is just below Groupon’s right now. He ain’t going nowhere unless University of Ireland come calling.

      • irishpubcrawl - Jan 21, 2012 at 3:25 AM

        hey lucid I think you’ve been suffering from too many midnight cold sweats. where are you getting your info? the st. regis tribune?

      • 9irish - Jan 27, 2012 at 6:10 AM

        @ dickasman
        I just caught that burger king quote…I don’t like this BK crap or any of the other initialized stuff that flies thru here….takes me 5 mins to figure out what the hell they’re talking about.

    • nudeman - Jan 21, 2012 at 11:17 AM

      Kidhas re-opened his recruiting
      USC back in picture

      He isn’t coming to ND
      Period

      http://blogs.sacbee.com/preps/archives/2012/01/arik-armstead-o.html

  2. andy44teg - Jan 19, 2012 at 3:48 PM

    If he wants to be successful in all three aspects (football, basketball, academics), then picking Notre Dame is a NO BRAINER…plus..would you rather play b-ball in the inept SEC or the rich tradition of the Big East…get to play at Madison Square Garden every year or the flea-ridden New Orleans Arena….hmmmmmmm…lemme think…uhhhh….NOTRE DAME!!!

  3. runners00 - Jan 19, 2012 at 6:36 PM

    Screw it. Other fish in the sea.

    This guy is going to Auburn or Cal. Crazy.

  4. jerseyshorendfan1 - Jan 19, 2012 at 7:36 PM

    I enjoyed that interview……..most definitely. Also, Whitney is most definitely a little minx. Did I mention most definitely?

    • andy44teg - Jan 19, 2012 at 8:25 PM

      ummm most definitely…..

    • papadec - Jan 19, 2012 at 8:34 PM

      Whitney was the best part of the interview – a little hyper, but the best part. I can’t help but feel the Armsteads are a little confused – neither one of the boys is Cam Newton. They’ve already received their best offers from the schools they visited. I don’t think Feb 1st, or beyond, will see any change. But, hey I could be wrong. I hope coach Kelly stopped in on Josh Garnett & Zach Banner when he was out here earlier this week to visit Keivarae Russel.

    • dickasman - Jan 20, 2012 at 5:10 PM

      OMG YOU’RE SUCH A SEXIST! I AM GOING TO EMAIL KEITH AND LET HIM KNOW WHAT A SEXIST YOU ARE…

      • jerseyshorendfan1 - Jan 21, 2012 at 12:29 AM

        Don’t take this Internet thing so seriously, lady.

  5. rcali - Jan 19, 2012 at 9:28 PM

    Would some booster step up already and match or beat whatever other under the table offer he is getting from these other schools? How do all these SEC schools figure out how to get all their guys cars and phat pads off campus and Notre Dame can’t and instead goes 8-5?

    • papadec - Jan 20, 2012 at 12:20 AM

      rcali – not a good idea. The program is getting back to where it should be. We don’t need to go down the same road as usc & osu. We got in enough trouble a few (actually more than a few) years ago with booster intervention. If either, or both, of the Armstead sons decides to play at ND – great. If not, fine – someone else will.

  6. 10of14 - Jan 19, 2012 at 9:57 PM

    You all need to listen to me; I called the whole Ohio State thing exactly as it came down last year. The University of CA at Berkley will go down in the next two years. They are offering these kids some serious mojo to enroll there. Look at their sorry recruiting in 09-10 and now look at their current class. Trouble is brewing in crunchy land…mark it down in ink…no pun intended.

    • papadec - Jan 19, 2012 at 10:27 PM

      10of14 – I think you are wrong regarding CAL & “serious mojo”. With the departure of two of their top coaches/recruiters to UWASH, this past week, some of their top recruits have reopened their recruitment. Also, as a result of those coaching moves to UWASH – Arik Armstead is also giving UWASH some consideration.

    • dickasman - Jan 20, 2012 at 5:12 PM

      10 of 14, I believe you 1000%. UDUB does as well.

  7. gtizzo - Jan 20, 2012 at 12:46 AM

    We gotta a shot at Armstead, Yuri Wright is a different matter as he was just dismissed from school. Vulgar tweets did him in at Don Bosco Prep, so I would say his chance at coming to ND is somewhere between none and never.

    • jerseyshorendfan1 - Jan 20, 2012 at 2:01 AM

      I was waiting for that other shoe to drop. No self-respecting Catholic school is gonna put up with that shiz for long.

      • nudeman - Jan 20, 2012 at 1:34 PM

        I just listened to the Tim Prister podcast on Irish Illustrated

        They predict the only remaining guys of not ND gets are Yuri Wirght (yes, they still think the Irish are interested there) and Standifer. Possibly Andrades IF they offer after his visit.

        Davonte Neal, Ekanem, Poole are “maybe”, but probably <50%

        Agholor, Garnett, Banner, Howard are real longshots

        Armstead is 50% if his bro gets clearance; if not he's almost certainly gone

    • dickasman - Jan 20, 2012 at 5:14 PM

      Even I myself is shocked at the stuff he wrote just because who he is. I mean, I admit I have written dumb stuff like(yes I knew its dumb but sacrificed smart for comedy) that on my FB…..It happens, you get caught up in this stuff but I don’t have 150000 following my every e-move.

  8. kappy32 - Jan 20, 2012 at 3:25 AM

    “Your dad’s phone has been ringing off the hook.”

    This kid’s dad has been way too involved in the process. It reminds me a lot of Cam Newton, Sr. when Cam was transferring from JuCo. I can foresee whichever program that gets this kid getting embroiled in a pay to play scandal. Just another greedy father pimping out his kid’s talents to the highest bidder.

    • runners00 - Jan 20, 2012 at 10:34 AM

      I’m back and forth on this issue.

      On the one hand, it reminds me of the Seantrell Henderson process. Remember him? Haven’t heard a lick from him in two years. This is the kid who is from here (St. Paul). He was the number one recruit in America. He’s a big strong-side offensive tackle. He was “considering” Notre Dame for a really long time — except that he really wasn’t. He wound up at Southern Cal — until they were put on probation. Then, he decided to go to . . . Miami! And I am sure the “extra curriculars” (see the Yahoo! story) had nothing to do with it. 2 schools — two schools that are on probation. So, it could be that he’s looking for the best “opportunities,” as presented by the football teams and their boosters

      The other side of the coin is that many of these kids are in the limelight at a very young age. This super attractive news reporter tells this 18-year-old kid that he is “Scout.com’s number 2 recruit.” There’s only so long that these kids are going to be in this position. So, why not milk it all the way till signing day? Why not make the highly-paid coaches earn their dough by sweating out his recruitment? Why not have as many hot reporters hounding him for as long as possible?

      It’s easy to say this, but if this were my kid I’d want him in school. I mean, if you agree to graduate early, you belong in college. An academic break like that — six months or nine months — is only going to make returning to school much harder. And this is one of the reasons why I think Armstead is toying with ND. Most of the kids on the football team — and throughout the broader university community — care about academics. Maybe this kid is going to spend the semester reading books and prepping for school. It could be. But somehow it sounds like he just wants to hang out. And most academic kids aren’t like that.

      • nudeman - Jan 20, 2012 at 11:17 AM

        I have said for a while now that he’s dicking with ND
        I think he’s going to Auburn

        Fine. Go. And leave me alone.
        There’s a better than even chance you’ll graduate.

        BTW, how many “most definitely”s did I just hear?
        Anybody count?

      • domer77 - Jan 20, 2012 at 12:40 PM

        Nub-man,

        What is up with you? Better than “even chance” he will ever graduate? Huh? Nice cynicism. Lots of good schools out there conferring degrees. Stop crapping on a kid for taking his skills to other than the Golden Dome. “Leave me alone.” Really doubt he even knows you exist, so count that one in your “done” column. You have become the new “Judgmental Bastard.” Keep it up and you may just land a spot with Leno.

      • 9lirish - Jan 20, 2012 at 12:47 PM

        Nude

        May I inquire as to what you do during the day other than live and die by the word(s) of 17-18 year old boys?

        As i noted below I don’t pay much attention to the daily recruiting saga as there are 1000s of reasons why kids choose where to go…

        My advice, relax, take a breathe, maybe a stroll outdoors, and most of all STOP berating and talking smack in a public forum about kids – there is much more out there in life

      • 9irish - Jan 20, 2012 at 1:09 PM

        @9lirish
        That’s pretty slick, hiding under my name. Don’t necessarily disagree, but I don’t knock people personally, so quit using me as camouflage.

      • nudeman - Jan 20, 2012 at 1:40 PM

        domer77 (another goat alias?) and 9irish

        I think YOU guys need to take deep breaths; This is a sports message board; Tebow is not moderating
        So nothing but hapy talk here, right?

        “Crapping” on 17-18 year olds. Ridiculous
        I’m sure they’re all very comforted that you clowns have their backs

        Your sanctimony is out of control

        Again: THIS IS A SPORTS MESSAGE BOARD. It is NOT Sunday Mass

      • dickasman - Jan 20, 2012 at 5:27 PM

        Nudeman,

        I am beginning to fall in love with you by default because it’s hard for me to really “like” anybody else on this board because they’re such hypocrats. They all spew the same thoughts OVER and OVER and OVER. Avant Garde need not apply here. When I think of people on this board, I think of the people that are on the show “hoarders”.

        I liked arguing with you and sharing thoughts because you and I had vast different points of views on many different issues and understood that this is internet and in the end, we are all die hard ND fans no matter how critical I may be. The minute ND win, I’ll be the first foo on here screaming FUGGGGGGGGGG YEAHHHHHHH… I enjoy reading what others have to say whether I agree with them or not. I enjoy reading every possible horizon of thoughts that I may have not entertained, no matter how ridiculous it sounds and I understand how ridiculous I can sound sometimes but I can’t help myself. I apologize personally to all my dick asman haithfuls for having to put up with my garbage but I guarantee you that I am a bigger ND football fan than any of your narrow minds can imagine.

        We could go hard at it w/o knarking on each other and being hypocrats. You know like a father beating a son after he does something really bad(SEE YURI WRIGHT) but in the end, the son knows that father had to do it because of the father really cared about him and they share a beer afterwards.

      • dickasman - Jan 20, 2012 at 5:32 PM

        oh man, I am going to take a well deserved rest from the inside the irish….I can’t deal with the recruiting drama anymore…

        Ciao Bella xoxo

      • jomilly - Jan 20, 2012 at 5:44 PM

        how often to hear about an underclass offensive lineman after their recruiting and prior to the nfl draft. Seantrell is doing just fine had some injuries but started as a true freshman

      • nudeman - Jan 20, 2012 at 8:54 PM

        I don’t know how I feel about Dick Asman falling in love with me, but what the hell?
        It’s the internet and can only hurt a little.

        Now then …

        The most annoying people on this board are the ones who chastise others for criticizing an ND player because “he’s an 18 year old kid”. For example, I might write “I know Tommy Rees is a good kid and gives it his all, but I think right now he’s killing them with his INTs.”

        Then I brace for a wave of sanctimonious, pious, bullsh** emails from people who feel they have to stick up for every ND player ALL THE TIME. As if the kid(s) are actually reading what I write. But the worst of all: “Tommy is 8-0 as a starter”. Althoughpersonally I’ve never actually seen him play defense, return kicks, or run the ball. I HAVE seen him punt against Stanford, and it was one of the finer 2 yard kicks I’ve seen.

        Hey, these are 18-22 year old kids playing football on national TV every Saturday and going to one of the finest universities in the world, free. They can handle the criticism.

        Tell the lovely Ms. Asman I said hello.

    • 9lirish - Jan 20, 2012 at 1:22 PM

      @9irish

      I’m afraid I’m not sure what you are referring to – I’ve been on this board for years posting nothing but positive comments – no hiding here

      • 9irish - Jan 20, 2012 at 1:34 PM

        “As i noted below I don’t pay much attention to the daily recruiting saga”….which comment are you referring to, other than mine?

        and this is the second time I’ve ever seen you post

  9. norcalirish - Jan 20, 2012 at 8:27 AM

    Dude I dunno what some of you watched but that kid is well spoken and seems pretty nice…he’s just trying to make the best decision for himself, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

  10. Keith Arnold - Jan 20, 2012 at 11:30 AM

    Guys: This situation is a lot more complicated than you’re giving it credit for. First and foremost is Armond’s health. I’ve heard from multiple people that whatever ailment he has, it’s serious and he needs to get cleared by medical teams at different schools. I’ve been told that’s what ND is doing right now as well. Arik is likely waiting for Armond to get that clearance, and to hear if Auburn will clear his transfer, as SEC graduate transfer rules have been tweaked since the Jeremiah Masoli debacle.

    As for the Hoops/Football issue, Arik is a legit basketball player. Mike Brey has been involved in this recruitment and he said that if Armstead enrolled early there was a way for him to jump into action immediately, not something you hear for every two-sport high school athlete that hopes to play both sports in college.

    ND has had guys do multiple sports lately — Eric Maust, Evan Sharpley, etc. This isn’t all that crazy.

    Lastly — Everyone keeps trying to say ND is out of this thing. I can only tell you — AGAIN — that the coaching staff and Armstead family doesn’t think they’re out of it. Just like you saw with Gunner Kiel, if these guys had the same resolve as some of our commenters, there’d be 25 roster spots open.

    • nudeman - Jan 20, 2012 at 11:54 AM

      I don’t think ND is out of it. I just think they’re not Arik’s first choice. No hard data; just a gut feel.
      Hope I’m wrong.

    • 9irish - Jan 20, 2012 at 12:01 PM

      I don’t follow this recruiting stuff the way that some do (never have), I take a few months off. BUT! Everything is so wacky out there, Meyer going in, Michigan being good again (maybe), all of the turmoil at Penn State. I hate the waffling, but they’re just 18….and I bet they feel like throwing their cell phones into the lake by now.

      It’ll all work out…I think we’ll be okay. That’s why I don’t pay much attention to it.

      • nudeman - Jan 20, 2012 at 12:34 PM

        Re: ratings of HS players: Justin Blackmon, OSU WR is going to be a very, very high 1st round pick, and deservedly so. Awesome player

        He was rated 3 stars coming out of HS

        There probably a ton of 5 star guys who never panned out
        And there are probably even 2 star guys (or 1 star, if they even give just 1 star ratings) who turned out to be great

        Just sayin’ …

      • oldestguard - Jan 20, 2012 at 1:08 PM

        N-man, I did see a graph / summary of Recruitng and reliability of the rating system, about 4- 5 years ago that took a bunch of recruiting classes and went down each category of 5 star, 4 star etc and showed their success rate in college and of getting drafted and some other categories.

        Very interesing. Can’t find it on the web now, but I’m sure someone with better surfing know-how could find some kind of chart like this thats out there.

    • oldestguard - Jan 20, 2012 at 12:51 PM

      Keith – I greatly agree with your post, but have a comment to make on your statement, ” Everyone keeps trying to say ND is out of this thing….”

      I never once thought we were completely out of the Kiel thing and I believe we’re still very much into Armstead.

      Not sure why you identify your entire reader base with the few who post at a voracious clip with often “interesting” conclusions that flip-flop daily based on the latest rumour.

      You have a tendancy to address this board as a generality sometimes and I think you take these few steady posters as a collective “think” for the entire base of readership.

      I personally find this blog very informative and extremely entertaining, and even when it gets wild, I laugh at the raw comments and the occaisonal spats- but please, don’t assume because we don’t always write down every thought we have, that the entire fan base thinks alike.

      Direct your comments to your actual targets – you may get some interesting back & forth going.

      Keep up the prolific reporting !

      • nudeman - Jan 20, 2012 at 1:53 PM

        oldestguard
        Well said.

        I wish Keith would stay more engaged after he puts up an article.

        Always surprises me re: the reaction when anything critical or “edgey” is written here.
        There appear to be some who think this board is only for happy talk
        (“Oh, those 4 Tommy Rees turnovers; c’mon, boys will be boys. Let it go”)

        I think of it as a couple guys having a beer and chatting sports. Nothing wrong with edginess.
        If one wants happy talk and 100% niceties, go watch Oprah TV.

        dickasman is frequently out of control and throwing haymakers, but often pretty funny
        Even his most outrageous stuff makes me laugh

      • 9irish - Jan 20, 2012 at 3:26 PM

        Nudeman,
        I agree wholeheartedly…I always used the beer in a bar analogy about this stuff. I don’t care what anybody says, I can disagree….I’m not going to tear down a guy I don’t even know, then tell them I’m going to come and find them (which I think is funny…they might not like what they got themselves into). so yeah….don’t mind negativity until ND goes 13-0…four years in a row…or maybe five.

        No worries

    • runners00 - Jan 20, 2012 at 12:58 PM

      Thanks for your comment, Keith

      I hadn’t considered Armon’s health as being a factor (or the factor) in keeping Arik from making a commitment. It sounds like this is the case.

      That said, the whole thing reminds me of the film “He’s just not that into you.” Perhaps he is. We’ll find out.

    • mcirish27 - Jan 20, 2012 at 1:04 PM

      Don’t forget Golden Tate on that list of successful 2 sport athletes at ND. Will Yeatman was also a bad**s lacrosse player (bad example…?)

      • andy44teg - Jan 20, 2012 at 3:41 PM

        How about “The Shark” Jeff Samardjiza?? (SP?)

    • bernhtp - Jan 20, 2012 at 8:47 PM

      The rumor I’ve heard is that Armond has a heart condition risk (my guess is hypertrophic cardiomyopathy) that makes him more susceptible to the sudden death we occasionally see in athletes undergoing extreme stress. If true, this is indeed a serious condition to consider both medically, morally, and legally. I’m not a doctor, and my total knowledge comes from reading the wiki, so take all of this with a big grain of salt. However, ND would need to become independently confident that this wouldn’t become an issue, especially after the horror of Declan Sullivan. This obviously takes time and may account for the delay.

  11. idratherbeinsouthbend - Jan 20, 2012 at 2:22 PM

    Comparing HS Recruits to their NFL Draft status…

    in a nutshell…

    5 star recruits (roughly 25-30 per class) get drafted approx. 45% of the time
    4 star recruits (roughly 300 per class) get drafted 10% of the time
    3 star recruits (roughly 750 per class)get drafted 4% of the time
    less than 3 stars (roughly 1750 – 2000 per class), less than 1%

    …and the most interesting statistic….

    highly touted recruits tend to leave school early and be drafted in the 2nd through 4th round. Most of these type of draft picks would have been projected as a higher draft pick had they stayed their senior year.

  12. Keith Arnold - Jan 20, 2012 at 4:38 PM

    Guys, I’d love to spend more time on the comments as well, but I’m tasked with leading the discussing, coming up with new stuff, searching for leads and stories and that takes quite a bit of my time.

    (Not to mention other obligations I have that help me keep the lights on and bills paid…)

    I’ve always imagined one day hosting a board on this site that allows ND fans to discuss and debate current events and topics, but I don’t find the comment section to be all that good of a forum, especially with the anonymous, sometimes quick to attack nature that often comes out here, even though I’ve spent years trying to keep us away from that rabbit hole.

    Saying all that, I try to write my columns for every fan. Consider that my humble contribution to everyone. If I write in the comments, it’s to address the ones that comment here, a very small subset of the total readership. (It’s probably less than 1 percent of our readers.)

    While I enjoy reading people’s opinions, if every writer took to heart and ingested the comments that get written under their work, I imagine we’d need an entire psych ward for the industry.

    • bernhtp - Jan 20, 2012 at 5:13 PM

      Keith, all Notre Dame fans for the past two decades are in need of extensive psychological therapy. Reading and/or writing these posts adds little to the trauma.

  13. nudeman - Jan 20, 2012 at 5:03 PM

    I am curious what everyone thinks of continuing to recruit Yuri Wright.

    In my opinion, everyone deserves a second chance and IF this young man is truly contrite and IF after some due diligence ND can reasonably conclude that this was an anomaly and isn’t representative of his true character, then I think it’s OK to proceed.

    BUT …

    They have to get out front, get the kid to have a heartfelt apology published, maybe even on YouTube as well as print, and be prepared to take the enormous heat that will ensue.

    Some inside and outside the ND Community will never accept his enrollment as a good thing and the criticism will be heavy. But it won’t last forever. Remember, he killed no one, didn’t hurt anyone, and didn’t even break any laws.

    • idratherbeinsouthbend - Jan 20, 2012 at 6:30 PM

      While I agree that everyone deserves a second chance, that simply isn’t the reality.

      This kid publicly displayed his demeanor via Twitter and, while it may have been posted in jest or as a knee-jerk reaction, that demeanor isn’t aligned with what ND publicly promotes as being a “ND man”

      I won’t say it’s right to make judgement on a Twitter posting or that ND shouldn’t recruit the kid anymore, but it certainly appears that Yuri and ND wouldn’t be the right fit.

      Look at his tweets and tell me if you’d want him representing ND?

      Here they are…

      http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2012/01/hs-football-star-yuri-wright-expelled-over-i-need-some-pssy-tweets/

      • andy44teg - Jan 20, 2012 at 7:18 PM

        It wouldn’t bother me in the least if this kid enrolled at ND…I do however have serious questions about his intelligence….who would post that on their twitter account with 1500+ followers???…mamma always said..stupid is as stupid does….

      • bernhtp - Jan 20, 2012 at 7:36 PM

        Alas poor Yuri…

        This makes him too toxic for Notre Dame. I wouldn’t expect any public admission of this, but just that ND stops recruiting him and goes in a different direction.

      • nudeman - Jan 20, 2012 at 9:11 PM

        Here’s something that might be coloring my opinion: A nationally known HS scout (Farrell, I think) who knows the kid well, has been to Don Bosco practices, etc describes him as a perfect gentleman. Yes sir, no sir, etc. They even use the word “shy”. He as well coaches and other players were truly surprised/shocked at this.

        So none of us know the real story. Maybe he’s a good kid who made a terrible mistake; or maybe he’s the new millenium’s Latrell Sprewell. We don’t know. At least I don’t.

        I got this from a poster on another board. What if they allowed him to come to ND and said 1) you redshirt your frosh year; 2) no social media for 2 years; 3) zero tolerance policy for any other transgressions; 4) counseling.

        That won’t be good enough for some, but if the kid signs up for that AND makes a heartfelt apology it would work for many, including me.

      • oldestguard - Jan 20, 2012 at 9:49 PM

        Are we sure these things came from Yuri…….maybe dickasman hi-jacked his twitter and is running off a string of street tweets to his posse…?

        I’m ready to believe anything in this recruiit cycle

      • idratherbeinsouthbend - Jan 21, 2012 at 12:54 AM

        Nude dude,

        Everybody could be descrbiing him as a perfect gentleman because when you’re selling a car, you don’t list the broken parts, just the fancy features.

        And in regards to the post that you got “from another board”….There is ZERO chance that this kid would go anywhere if he was told he was redshirting. That doesn’t mean he won’t get a redshirt his freshman year, but being told that before he signs. FO – GETTA – BOWTIT

    • papadec - Jan 20, 2012 at 9:28 PM

      nude – I don’t know. I have mixed feelings on the issue. He was going to a strict Catholic HS, was told many times to stop doing the tweets. He didn’t stop. It sounds like he has serious authority issues. The HS kicked him out – as he was warned would happen. His first problem is either getting back into Don Bosco or a public HS so that he graduates with his class. If he doesn’t graduate on time – he can’t go to ND, or any other college, to play football. Yuri is the only one who can answer whether, or not, he has learned his lesson. Does he deserve a second chance? It sounds like he had his second thru fifteenth chances. None of us, at this site, have ALL the facts to make a truly informed decision. However, as you & dickas have pointed out – we have freedom of speech, as does Yuri. I would add that we also have freedom to form an opinion – informed or not. In my opinion – ND should pass on Yuri.

      • nudeman - Jan 21, 2012 at 10:28 AM

        idratherbeinsouthbend,
        Remember the kid has infinitely fewer options now than before. Michigan, his “dream school” dropped him. Others probably won’t touch him with a 10 foot pole.
        So the option of redshirting isn’t as out of the question as it might sound.

        papa,
        I was unaware he’d been warned several times. That does does sort of color things in the Latrell Sprewell direction.

        At this point the kid is radioactive. Dropping him is probably the safest thing, protects ND’s “image” and fends off all sorts of negative pub.
        But we wouldn’t be having this conversation if he wasn’t a hell of a football player. He definitely is that, and so they’ll get criticized by some for going that way too.

        I’d like to know more about it, if in fact there IS more.
        Still not out of the question that he’s a good kid who tried to look cool and did a bad thing.

        One last point: There are examples of reclamation projects that worked on guys who seemed lost.
        I saw an interview with Maurice Clarett a few months back, and you wouldn’t believe how humble, contrite, polite he is. He’s playing for some semi pro team and even told them he didn’t want to be paid until the end of the year because he didn’t money in his pocket tempting him. Totally clean and sober.

        Michael Vick was the most loathesome figure in sports, even before the dog incident. Right up there with Iverson. I am a dog lover extraordinaire, so I would have been fine if he fried. But now I am extremely impressed with how he’s changed, is truly contrite, has stayed out of trouble and seems like a changed man.

        Chris Carter was an out of control alcoholic. Josh Hamilton, meth. Many others have found their way after youthful stupidity.

        ALL of these guys did things MUCH worse than Yuri. And again, Yuri broke no laws.

      • oldndgrad - Jan 21, 2012 at 4:06 PM

        There’s no room for this kind of amoral kid at ND period! He’s an affront to Our Lady.

      • idratherbeinsouthbend - Jan 21, 2012 at 11:42 PM

        That’s a good point nudeman. He just strikes me as the type of kid that would worry about starting before worrying about WHERE he’s starting.

    • txbeej - Jan 21, 2012 at 1:40 AM

      If they continued to recruit him and eventually secured his commitment, I would not question it, nor would I question it if they decided not to pursue him further. This twitter incident demonstrates a disappointing lack of judgment, but it’s all I know of Yuri Wright. I’ll defer to those with better knowledge of the young man and his situation.

      Wherever he ends up, I wish him the best.

    • runners00 - Jan 23, 2012 at 10:31 AM

      No way. He will be at Auburn or at LSU or at Florida or maybe even Southern Cal

      But not at Notre Dame. I am all for giving kids a second chance. Look, kids are not perfect — certainly not 18 year old kids. But his vulgar comments are degrading to women, suggest an animus that is not consistent with the traditions of ND, and, well, there are other cornerbacks out there. Besides, some of his tweets suggest that he doesn’t like Notre Dame anyway. Let’s move on.

  14. jomilly - Jan 20, 2012 at 5:53 PM

    second chances are EARNED, good luck to Yuri hes got a lot to learn. I think the BK could make a man out of the boy, much like he did for MF

  15. takingbovadasmoney - Jan 21, 2012 at 10:40 AM

    @nudeman

    A national recruiting scout kissing up to Don Bosco Prep, one of the premier football factories in the country? I don’t believe it! The kid could have spit in his face on the field and the scout would have made hum out to be a choir boy. Can’t make the coaches look like they are out if control on the field. The scout may loose access.

  16. nudeman - Jan 21, 2012 at 10:58 AM

    Back to Armstead: The circus continues
    Sacramento Bee reports they’re going back to square 1 on schools, with USC back in the picture.

    http://blogs.sacbee.com/preps/archives/2012/01/arik-armstead-o.html

    I can’t blame the kid for doing what’s best for him. But it sure seems like he’s trying to find a way NOT to go to Notre Dame.

    I’d rate ND’s chances at less than 10% after reading this

  17. bernhtp - Jan 21, 2012 at 12:50 PM

    Here’s my take. The Armsteads want to go to the same school if possible. Arik also wants to play basketball. Armond has a further complicating factor of a medical condition that sidelined him at USC and apparently has some indeterminate future, prognosis, risk, and possible accompanying limitations. Armond also needs to graduate to play without waiting out a year. Notre Dame will be more, rather than less, conservative in dealing with all of this. I believe that they (at least Arik) would have enrolled early at ND (or somewhere else) had all of these conditions been met in time. It was clearly too difficult.

    They now have more time and are casting a wider net for someone to optimize their outcome according to their desires. Armond is staying at USC to graduate and Arik is finding a place for the fall by NSD, ideally one where Armond can join him, he can play high-level b-ball, etc. I have no idea whether ND will be able to accommodate all of this or whether ND will still be a top choice once the dust settles within a couple of weeks (presumably).

  18. papadec - Jan 21, 2012 at 4:44 PM

    Regarding Yuri – I would like to see the opinions of some of the ND women (past & present) on him and his posts. Is this someone they would want to be in classes with?

  19. 9irish - Jan 21, 2012 at 8:29 PM

    These guys are too much trouble…remember Randy Moss? Lou had the vibe on him from the beginning…just not worth it. Alot of good people do stupid things when they are young, but this seems to be bad people trying to act good rather than the other way around.

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