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Video recap: Blue-Gold game

Apr 22, 2012, 12:10 PM EDT

Notre Dame Blue Gold Game

With the Blue-Gold game in the books and spring practice complete, let’s take a look back at some of the highlights of yesterday’s game. There was plenty to like, plenty to worry about, and plenty of things to discuss for the next four months before the Irish prepare for fall camp.

Sticking with the bullet-point review system that served us well during the practice reports, here’s a quick cut-up of yesterday’s highlights:

  • 0:10 — With Troy Niklas in street clothes on the sideline, the Irish tight ends didn’t miss a beat blocking, with Ben Koyack making a nice block on Cierre Wood‘s big burst. Cierre ran confident, looked quick, and should have a monster season next year.
  • 0:38 — Great cut-back. Cierre looks to be running away from Josh Atkinson, who is an elite level sprinter. It’ll be interesting to see what type of speed numbers Wood puts up when he heads to the NFL.
  • 0:52 — With Atkinson coming off the edge on a corner blitz, Andrew Hendrix made a decisive throw, hitting All-American Tyler Eifert before safety Chris Salvi could get there, leading to the Irish’s first offensive score. Nice job by Andrew identifying the open man and getting the ball out in a hurry.
  • 1:20 — If there’s a throw that encapsulates the “Bad Tommy” Irish fans have started to loathe, it’s this overthrown seam route that Rees forced into traffic. On a third and long, this is the exact type of play that’ll turn Brian Kelly purple, and was the worst decision of the day for Rees. It actually looks like Rees might have had Theo Riddick open if he threw the ball to his outside shoulder.
  • 1:30 — Everett Golson throws an absolute laser to Eifert on a deep post route. With decent coverage provided by Cam McDaniel, Golson sits back comfortably in the pocket and throws a bullet for a big gainer. In what looked to be a two-man route, Ben Koyack ran the in-route underneath while Eifert, split out at wide receiver, ran the post. Good usage of the two-tight end set.
  • 2:04 — Great work by the Irish offensive line, paving the way for George Atkinson to run untouched for a nice gainer.
  • 2:14 — Good play call on 4th and four, with Riddick escaping out of the backfield and making a nice catch on a tricky throw by Rees. Shockingly, the Irish led the country in 4th down conversion rate, succeeding on all seven attempts. Inteestingly, only one team went for it less last season: LSU, coached by the notorious riverboat gambler Les Miles.
  • 2:24 — That’s quite a burst by George Atkinson. That entire press box came away in awe of Atkinson’s speed on that run, covering ten yards mighty quickly.
  • 2:35 — Andrew Hendrix looks like a handful to bring down. It’s not a stretch to call him a Tebow-esque runner.
  • 2:47 — Great throw by Hendrix, stuffing that dig route into Davaris Daniels for a nice gainer. There’s no denying Hendrix can put some heat on the ball.
  • 3:08 — Everett Golson decides to show off his arm, too. I can’t remember too many plays like that last season from Irish quarterbacks, where a QB buys a little time and them zips a ball into a hole in zone coverage.
  • 3:15 — Run of the day. Atkinson shakes off a 250-pound linebacker, then runs through about five other defenders. Looked like a page out of Marshawn Lynch’s book, only with better speed.
  • 3:58 — Nice blitz pick-up, and a great throw by Golson floating a ball in there to Ben Koyack. That’s the benefit of having four really large tight ends that can catch the ball. Not much Josh Atkinson can do against a 6-foot-5 monster that basically posted him up.
  • 4:08 — Great catch by Daniels on a ball thrown to the outside shoulder by Rees. Not much Cam McDaniel can do there either, and a good confidence building throw by Tommy. Daniels wasn’t a huge factor, but made a few big plays.
  • 4:24 — George Atkinson is going to be a beast in space, especially if they can throw him the football out of the backfield.
  • 4:33 — This is a terrible interception by Hendrix. Locked in on the tight end from the beginning, Ishaq Williams cashes in the freebie when Atkinson was open for the dump off. Exhibit A in the case against Hendrix.
  • 4:42 — Another nicely thrown ball by Golson for the TD. Even if it is against a walk-on cornerback, that’s a matchup the Irish feel like they’ll win with Riddick.
  • 5:15 — Some very good horsepower.
  • 5:21 — There’d be worst things to happen next year than Cierre Wood developing a nose for the end zone. Nice bit of running and usage of blocks to get in for the score.



Alex Flanagan caught up with former Irish tight end Kyle Rudolph on the sidelines, where the Minnesota Vikings tight end talked about Tyler Eifert‘s future and uniting with former Irish tight end John Carlson.

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Flanagan also ran down Michael Floyd and Jonas Gray, both at the game to support their former teammates as they wait to hear their names called during the upcoming NFL Draft.

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  1. vegasmark - Apr 22, 2012 at 1:37 PM

    I couldn’t watch the full game Keith, but based on the highlights, I’m all in on Golson. Give him the keys and let him drive this crazy bus known as ND Football. He looks to be so confident back there, as well as his ability to get the ball where it needs to be in a split second (see: 3:08 extending the pocket with a laser to #82) doesn’t seem to be something that either Rees or Hendrix has, or at least not to the same extent that Golson does. For whatever reason, it seems that Hendrix wants to force the pass rather than take off and use his running abilities when the pass isn’t there unless it’s a zone read or designed run. What I saw out of Rees didn’t look much different from last year, good balls at times, but some absolute head scratchers also. There’s no Gunner in the highlights, but I’m more than happy with redshirting him.
    Some side notes: Cierre “Beast Mode” Wood looks like he is not missing a beat from last year, another 1000+ yard season is in his future.
    George Atkinson also looked fantastic. We saw his skills on display last season with his kickoff returns, but man, he shook Ishaq like an ugly prom date and kept on rolling. Ball security might be an issue with him though.
    Is it September yet?

    GO IRISH!!!

  2. nudeman - Apr 22, 2012 at 2:48 PM

    On the 4Horsemen Lounge I counted 9 separate threads on the QBs.
    Probably another 9 will appear within the next 24 hours.

    I don’t know how many individual posts there were, but the number is easily >100.

    There is not one single post in defense of Tommy Rees as the starter. Not one.

    I see nothing in him that suggests he should even be the #2.
    And frankly, despite Gunner being basically a HS Senior, I’d put him ahead of TR too.

    So next year, when Zaire arrives (just approved as an EE), someone will not be awarded a scholarship. No way they will have 5 QBs on scholarship.

    Who will it be?
    My opinion is AH should be moved to safety. That solves the problem right there.

    • dmac4real - Apr 22, 2012 at 3:35 PM

      They will have 5 qb’s on scholarship, because it will only be one year. Notre Dame does not take away scholarships, at least I dont remember them ever doing that. Also, you’ve been obsessed with the whole AH moved to safety thing, and you are the only one (considering we have like 5 safetys coming in). Quite honestly, it conflicts with your view on TR. If you moved AH to safety then you would have TR, Kiel and Golson as your Qb’s this year. Since you refuse to give TR even the 2nd spot in the offense, that would make it 1. Golson 2. Kiel. Thats not exactly ideal. Two guys who have never played a college snap as 1 and 2. That doesn’t sound like too much fun.

      • nudeman - Apr 23, 2012 at 2:46 PM

        I said move AH to safety NEXT year
        WHat don’t you get about that?

      • dmac4real - Apr 23, 2012 at 2:59 PM

        It just doesn’t make much sense at all. We are going to have 6 guys at that spot already. So Hendrix would move to a position he hasn’t played and abandon a position hes competitive in. It just doesn’t make any sense, like at all.

    • irisheyesinsd - Apr 22, 2012 at 5:19 PM

      I agree with everything except moving Hendrix to safety…we have decent depth there already and Hendrix stands to only improve as time goes on.
      My suggestion is take the least talented of the 4, TR, and do a Massa. Or make him a placeholder on extra points/field goals. Or let him transfer.

    • rico75 - Apr 22, 2012 at 9:19 PM

      I don’t know why Kelly doesn’t make his decisions based on the opinions of the 4 Horsemen Lounge – it’s like he doesn’t even read the comments there…

      • nudeman - Apr 22, 2012 at 11:42 PM

        Wow rico

        That’s very clever.
        Why are you here?

    • domer77blowsgoats - Apr 23, 2012 at 1:17 PM

      some may ask the same question about you nude

      – 85 posts on a QB transferring
      – 1327 posts on TR
      – 45,721 thumbs down and counting

      • nudeman - Apr 23, 2012 at 2:20 PM

        Goat: The Glenn Beck of this blog.

    • 1historian - Apr 23, 2012 at 5:52 PM

      AH is in pre-med and someday you might find yourself under the tender care of Dr. Hendrix, so you should perhaps be careful how you speak of him.

      1) Golson 2) Hendrix 3) Rees 4) Kiel – Redshirt unless the feces hits the air circulator.

      I know Golson has never been out there under fire in a real game but – if not now, when? Let him get his feet wet against Navy. He’ll be fine.

      • nudeman - Apr 23, 2012 at 6:56 PM

        Agree with your assessment
        But I have this sinking feeling it’s going to be somebody else

  3. bearcatirishfan - Apr 22, 2012 at 3:00 PM

    I think ah transfers myself, I don’t see him wanting to be a safety and he doesn’t look like a starter at this point. I was a closet TR fan until yesterday but got to admit he didn’t look to improve much. The lack of presence in the huddle worries me about Goslon but he looked the best. I wish the coaches would give a little more insight into their process for evaluation. We can say hey he looks great but have no clue what these guys are being judged on.

    • dmac4real - Apr 22, 2012 at 3:37 PM

      AH is in premed, has a 3.8 GPA, is focused on academics first, and is still in the QB race. None of that points to transfer.

  4. jomilly - Apr 22, 2012 at 4:03 PM

    I said the same thing about 5 qbs on scholarship, that it wouldnt happen. I believe Keith, had something to say that hes heard nothing. Im glad common sense works for others around here. No way thers 5 on scholarship, I think 2 should go, but time will tell. Thanks Nude for using your brain. I guess if you and I are incorrect Keith can have a good laugh

    • rico75 - Apr 22, 2012 at 9:53 PM

      Keith is already starting to chuckle

  5. sweetnd - Apr 22, 2012 at 4:31 PM

    Keith – maybe a bit off topic here, but I’m just getting back to Cali from the game yesterday. Do you know what is happening at the north end of the stadium to the bleachers? They clearly look to e replacing the concrete, but as I walked through the stadium I saw what looked like metal bleachers. With all the commotion around turf and jumbotrons, I didn’t miss something about replacing wood bleachers with metal ones did I?

    Love what you do here! Go Irish!

  6. islandsdomer - Apr 22, 2012 at 6:00 PM

    I think bk was barking at EG after the TD pass to theo because tyler was the first read(and open). Man it’s going to be fun watching EG next season. Hope the growing pains don’t sting too hard.

  7. runners00 - Apr 22, 2012 at 8:42 PM

    There is no conclusion on the

  8. Michael Steinberger - Apr 22, 2012 at 10:33 PM

    Golson should be #1 and the staff will have to coach up Hendrix into #2. Forget the lack of experience, let’s just put the best talent on the field and take our chances. Kiel will get his turn in time (and likely move up the depth chart when he’s ready). TR can put on the red hat and be the extra coach on the sidelines, or transfer to Western Michigan and God bless him. Zaire will take his place in line. One good QB per class, I think that’s the concept.

    Wow, is this offense potentially more explosive this year than last, or what? All the more reason for BK to turn the kids loose…

  9. irishjack2 - Apr 22, 2012 at 11:29 PM

    I think it’s worth being a little philosophical and comparative here. As Aristotle wisely noted, “One sparrow does not a spring make.” Had he been in South Bend yesterday, he might have added “One spring football game does not a season nor career make.” Perhaps, from his comments after the BG game, Brian Kelly has read some Aristotle, or maybe he’s just an experienced head football coach.

    From both the televised game and the recast on the web, it looked to me (and apparently many people) that of the three reasonable starters, Golson played the best and Rees the worst with Hendrix in the middle. OK. But I must disagree that Golson was dazzlingly better than the others, particularly Hendrix, who did not play poorly at all. I think that too many people are being influenced by the relative length of time that the players were on the field and by the relative timing of success and failure. Golson brought the team to the line of scrimmage 34 times, Rees 27 times, and Hendrix only 15 times (if we do not count his final kneel). That has to influence how people think. Also Hendrix was more successful earlier and finished with a pick, while Golson and Rees finished heading upward, which can greatly influence perception. But in a real football game, touchdowns in the first quarter count the same as the ones in the fourth.

    I’m not too concerned with Rees, who had plenty of time to show his stuff and managed to show pretty much the same stuff as last season. He’s perhaps better at checking out, he’s fine on short passes, but he throws too many picks on longer balls and too few touchdowns. It’s so close to last season’s performance that I’m not sure we can’t see in this game what to expect for the fall.

    I am more concerned with too-quick judgement about Hendrix. He threw a bad interception, but otherwise had a pretty decent game, it seemed to me, given so few plays. Hendrix ran the team most efficiently, and he demonstrated an ability to stretch the defense by running and throwing deep. Golson can certainly stretch teams, too, and he didn’t have any throwing turnovers, but he did have delays and timeouts, lost yardage plays, ball-on-the-ground plays, mis-timed-snap-into-turnover plays, and plays requiring his great athletic ability to escape. Golson is good, but ALL is not good with Golson; he has his problems, too.

    Most importantly, though, I think Golson simply had better luck. Best example: George Atkinson’s three most important plays (if it were actually a game): #3, he gets trapped five feet behind the line of scrimmage on second and ten and instead of leaving Golson third and 15, he breaks five tackles and runs 30 yards. #2, Tommy Rees has just started playing well, thrown a lovely out pass for 31 yards and another short pass for a long gain, when George fumbles an option toss. #3, Hendrix has moved the ball right down the field with a good run, a long dig pass, and another first down pass to Eiffert, when George, not even near anyone, dribbles the ball away. For Atkinson, his good plays may balance his bad ones, but they didn’t balance for the quarterbacks AT ALL. But there were other things, too, like Eiffert dropping the 45-yarder-right-in-both-his-hands from Hendrix, and Golson getting two first downs on penalties, one after a third down throwaway, and one that would have left him otherwise with 3rd and 15.

    To repeat, people are not just over-interpreting the sparrows of spring, they are counting their sparrows before they have even hatched.

    • bernhtp - Apr 23, 2012 at 7:55 AM

      This was my perspective as well. Other than that one play, Hendrix moved the offense well. I thought the dropped pass to Eifert (a rare event) was the best pass of the day and indicative of the type of how Eifert will be used. His running was strong and command of the offense good.

      With that said, he mistake was too similar to previous ones. Golson did have a better game, albeit bolstered by good luck, as you note. I wish Hendrix had more snaps, but that’s not how the dice rolled on Saturday.

      Don’t try to extrapolate too much from the spring game. It’s not only a contrived situation, but suffers from the laws of small numbers. Exhibit A: Nate Montana had three TDs two years ago.

    • dmac4real - Apr 23, 2012 at 3:06 PM

      Hendrix is almsot guaranteed to throw the ball below 50%. In no way is that acceptable. Vs Stanford he was 11-24. Vs FSU he was 3-8. B&G game he was 4-9. He throws the ball as hard as he can every single time and has no touch on the ball. Hes made the same interception throw the last 3 times hes played (Vs stanford it was dropped but it hit the guy in the chest without him having to move) and I think he is just going to keep making the same mistake. Hes throwing motion is wack and very jerky. I just have little faith in the kid, and it is not just because of the spring game.

      • dmac4real - Apr 23, 2012 at 3:11 PM

        Quick continuation:

        Comparing Golson to Montana in the spring game is unfair. Montana played against a 3rd string defense that was 15 practices into learning the system. Golson played a solid defense that has been playing the same system for 3 springs now. Completely different

        Also, If Golson is lucky maybe that will help us. Lord knows we havent been lucky in a LONG time. Ex 1-2-3 All the Michigan Games.

      • nudeman - Apr 24, 2012 at 11:10 AM

        I have been saying much the same thing about AH for a year here and been getting pounded for it
        He has a long delivery, no touch and even Chuck Martin says his field vision is poor
        He is NOT the answer

  10. nudeman - Apr 22, 2012 at 11:54 PM

    Nice post.

    I think AH is electric, maybe even more so than Golson. Tremendous power and speed.

    My problem is NOT that he’s thrown INTs; it is the NATURE of the INTs. he’s thrown.

    Exhibit A: Vs. Stanford, throws an INT between the numbers of a defender 10 yards away
    Exhibit B: See above for FSU game
    Exhibit C: Blue & Gold game.
    Exhibit D: Chuck Martin saying “he doesn’t see the field well”

    He is NOT instinctual at QB. But he might be at another position

    • bernhtp - Apr 23, 2012 at 10:10 AM

      The notion of moving the #2 QB (so far) to another position is a strange one. He definitely gained ground against Rees and lost some to Golson.

      More importantly, don’t try to draw a trend line from one data point from Golson. As irishjack noted, a slight movement of the quantum dice (e.g., Eifert not dropping Hendrix’s long bomb, or the fumbled snap not falling in front of Golson) would have yielded a very different conversation here.

      As for Rees, we sadly have far more than one data point to draw his trend line. His interception and inability to personally move with the ball plotted straight with all of the points from last year.

      • nudeman - Apr 23, 2012 at 11:12 AM

        As far as the QBs go, Kelly better have made up his mind, whether he’s sharing it with us or not. So far he has given kid glove treatment and the majority of the snaps to a guy who the entire world agrees just can’t play.

        Now they basically have 25 practices or so left before teeing it up vs, Navy. It is time to stop the charade and get AH or EG ready to start and be your QB. No more “we’re still evaluating” or “he doesn’t know what protection schemes to call”.

        If that’s the case, then I blame BK.

      • nudeman - Apr 23, 2012 at 11:19 AM

        BTW, on Hendrix I agree that moving him would be outside the box of normal thinking. And I’m not sure they can do it now for the reason you cite. He’s probably the #1 or #@ QB starting in Sept.

        But my thinking is rooted on this premise, which many will disagree with: I do NOT think that beginning in 2013 AH is the man. He lacks poise in my opinion and is too excitable to ever take a team at this level to the BCS.

        In 2013 you will have a more knowledgeable GK, EG with a year of experience, Zaire who looks phenomenal, and of course Rees. If they move AH to safety starting next Spring, he’d have a lot of time to get ready and 2 years of eligibility left.

        If you or anyone reading this disagrees with my assessment of AH as a QB, then the rest of my suggestion makes no sense. However, something has to give at QB in 2013. No way they have 5 scholarship QBs on the roster. So I think AH at safety makes as much sense as anything else.

        • bernhtp - Apr 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM

          I think that by early summer camp, BK should name two QBs, presumably Golson and Hendrix, in a competitive runoff for the starting job where each gets about 50% of first team snaps. The starter should be chosen by early August to get 60+% of first team snaps. We will ultimately decide on a QB with little or no experience and.they need to get the practice reps quickly.

      • nudeman - Apr 23, 2012 at 2:11 PM

        It’s funny. Or maybe it isn’t funny.

        Right now, there is absolutely NO ONE saying Tommy Rees should be the starter. Or even in the discussion for that matter. I’d say the fandom/alum winds are 80% want Golson and maybe 20% want Hendrix.

        So WHY do I get the feeling we’ll still see Rees trotting out as the starter in Dublin? I’m so tired of the “he checks us into good plays” bullshit. If he checks us into all these great plays, why does the offense move like molasses with him in there?

        If BK wants to tell us he hasn’t made a choice yet for the sake of keeping everybody competing, that’s fine. But if when camp starts in August we hear that TR is getting most of the snaps, that will spell disaster.

        He needs to pick someone not named “Tommy” and get that guy ready to lead the offense.

      • mmanor01 - Apr 23, 2012 at 2:54 PM

        Nude…I am so with you on this one. Enough with Tommy manages the game or whatever else Kelly has been saying. ND needs a game winner, not a team manager.

      • dmac4real - Apr 23, 2012 at 3:15 PM

        On the Eifert Play there was still very good coverage. Somehow everybody forgets that. Also, the ball was under thrown. Eifert had to turn around and back peddle, and in no way was that throw leading him. Its not like Golson was super lucky either. The fumble hitting Riddick was not very fortunate to him, and the fumble he ran for 5 yards was not fortunate for him either (with the center making a horrid snap) but he made something productive on it.

        Ive been on the Golson bandwagon since he EE, and this spring game solidified it for me. Please start EG.

        • bernhtp - Apr 23, 2012 at 4:31 PM

          I disagree that the ball was underthrown to Eifert. In that situation, it is OK to throw the ball up and let Eifert move to it and make a play. He has an enormous physical advantage that the play is designed to exploit. I expect to see that play run a bunch in the fall and Eifert will pull the ball down in the vast majority of the situations.

          We did have some inexplicable snapping problems at center. This was the one weakness on the OL I saw in the game.

          Speaking of center, Braxton Cave was walking around right in front of me and I was surprised to not only see him in uniform, but fully prepared to get in given that he was all taped up, had black under his eyes, etc.

          In contrast, Amir Carlisle just had a jersey on and was still (badly) limping around on his one crutch. I expected more progress by now. He didn’t look. He also looks pretty scrawny for a RB, but maybe that was just the illusion created by him being the one guy out there without pads.

      • bernhtp - Apr 23, 2012 at 11:41 PM

        DMC: I just watched the game replay on TV. The Hendrix pass to Eifert was perfectly thrown. Golson’s fumbled snap (on that play) did not appear to be the fault of the center; Golson had his hands too far apart.

        It’s nice watching it on full replay after seeing it close-up live.

      • dmac4real - Apr 23, 2012 at 11:47 PM

        Bern: I meant the Golson fumble where he was in shot gun, and Hegarty just rolled it back. Golson picked it up and ran 5 yards. Not the fumble that was his fault. I didnt say Hendrix throw was a bad one, I was just guessing he could have led him more. Guess i was wrong with that one.

        • bernhtp - Apr 24, 2012 at 10:06 AM

          Hegarty did not have a good game. Many of the snaps, especially in the shotgun, were off target. Look at the video and watch Hendrix have to reach down to his ankles or over to one side to get the ball, and this costs valuable time the QB needs to scan the field and generally get set. Getting Cave back in will be big.

          Hendrix’s pass hit Eifert in his fully outstretched hands and it came out as he brought it in. This is uncharacteristic of Eifert. I loved watching him line up wide and stretch the field deep.

  11. cpfirish - Apr 23, 2012 at 1:11 AM

    TR and AH are still making the same old mistakes (interceptions)!! I am wondering if they will EVER improve there field vision? BK is he seeing the same?? EG is our answer hands down! Go irish!!

    • 9irish - Apr 23, 2012 at 7:16 AM

      I think there is too much thinking going on out there. Golson, to me, looked like the one. Moving Hendrix to safety is just something that is not going to happen. Rees is a very good, smart kid, but he got there from injuries to Crist, and the bizarre decision to can Crist after one half of one game. He has never been christened as the starting ND QB in the first place.

      They need to pick a guy and go with it. There is alot of talent there. If some of them leave, so be it. They have a log jam. Then go start getting a blue-chip every two years or so. They are all defeating themselves.

      • nudeman - Apr 23, 2012 at 2:16 PM

        Agree 100%
        End the Tommy charade.
        Pick a guy, let him lead, and let’s go from there.

        BTW, I’m not advocating AH to safety NOW.
        Just saying after this year, they’ll be overloaded at QB and AH is not a BCS level QB, but he is a gifted athlete.
        AH at safety in 2013 makes sense to me.

      • 9irish - Apr 23, 2012 at 4:36 PM

        If Crist lights up the scoreboard in Kansas, somebody is going to have to hand Kelly a bar towel!

      • dmac4real - Apr 23, 2012 at 11:49 PM

        9irish- Dayne Crist is irrelevant to this years ND team. If he lights it up it is more because he was in the right system and in a shitty defense league (Big 12). He was not a fit for use, lets move on. He went 4-5, its not like he was the savior who we missed on.

  12. twebb2 - Apr 23, 2012 at 9:27 AM

    HEY Keith, where’s the video of that guy who blogs for NBC Sport’s “Inside the Irish” blog? :)

  13. fnc111 - Apr 23, 2012 at 2:41 PM

    This upcoming season is going to be worse than last year. More turnovers will come from the simple pitch play of Golson to GAIII or the latter not being able to hold onto the ball with no one around him. I like what I saw from Goldon except got the fact he kept fumbling the snap. 2012 wins: navy, purdue, Miami, BYU, Pitt, Wake. Toss ups: Stanford, BC. Losses: MSU, michigan, oklahoma, USC.

    • dmac4real - Apr 23, 2012 at 3:20 PM

      MSU lost their QB and their top 6 receivers. In the best two years of their program (11 win seasons) they beat us on a bull shit play in OT, the got womped by us. Its hard to just qualify that as a loss. Michigan has been close the past 3 years, and I am not sure how they can be a guaranteed loss either. Also, not sure how BC is a toss up beside that they had a good game plan against TR. Their talent level is awful. 8-4.

      • 9irish - Apr 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM

        I don’t know. Have to remember, they really only got “beat” twice last year, Stanford and USC (and USC could have been winnable for awhile there). The rest of them were blown saves, basically. And I think they will be a better team. Remember 87-88, everyone thought, “where the hell did THESE guys come from?!” Surprises do happen. Need a damn QB.

  14. joeschu - Apr 23, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    I finally got to watch the game last night, and I agree with some of the assessment that EG was largely “lucky,” in the way possessions worked out. However, that’s the point. Last year we were consistently unlucky, and at some point, you need the guy with the “art” in there to help you manufacture some luck.

    In the end, I wish there was some urgency for change, but I’m afraid the opposite is true, and the staff will over-value consistency. As stated here before, my concern is that too many vocal sources put BK on “the hot seat” if this year is a bust. That’s just crazy talk, and it is exactly what will lead to TR under center in Dublin.

    I happened to read a lot of the coverage and BK’s remarks about EG before getting to sit down and watch a replay. Here’s what really worries me: BK seems to be favoring the least effective/talented guy because he does the most coachable aspect the best. Of course, he also seems to harp on the most talented guy for doing the most coachable aspect poorly. Wouldn’t a “player development” coach have proven techniques for helping athletically gifted guys to figure out how to read signals, handle pre-snap calls, and manage the game clock appropriately? It strikes me as odd that handling the under-center exchange and clock management are the big concerns with EG, when those are 2 highly coachable skills. Is this an ego problem?

    Have EG work the exchange with the top 3 guys on the depth chart at center. Ask them to do exchanges every day for the next 6 months. Put together some tape for EG to practice signals and pre-snap reads. Make EG live under a 25 second clock every day. Do something to get the talented guy ready and get the team behind him. I just pray the “4 guy” sham isn’t taking away from valuable time that could be getting the right guy ready.

    • dmac4real - Apr 23, 2012 at 3:24 PM


      • 1historian - Apr 23, 2012 at 6:00 PM

        me 2

  15. dmac4real - Apr 23, 2012 at 3:25 PM

    Somebody explain to me why Andrew Hendix deserves to start. I dont dislike the guy, I just dont see a reason like some others do.

    • joeschu - Apr 23, 2012 at 3:43 PM

      1) His name isn’t Tommy Rees. Among many, that’s good enough.
      2) He has a lot of zip on the ball and has proven to be an effective runner
      3) We have proof-positive that he can go in to the game and the world doesn’t come crashing down all at once.

      Golson has the first 2 going for him, but not the 3rd. The only thing right about last year was keeping that red shirt tightly around him.

      • nudeman - Apr 23, 2012 at 5:44 PM

        I “almost” agree completely with joeschu.
        I’m on the Anybody But Tommy bandwagon, but I’m not a huge AH fan
        Having said that I see him as a huge improvement over TR.

        So if it’s AH instead of EG I won’t quibble

      • joeschu - Apr 23, 2012 at 6:41 PM

        I was all about the Voodoo Child last year, because the eligibility was burnt either way and I couldn’t afford the Rogain necessary to keep up with the hair Rees was costing me every Saturday.

        Based on what I’ve been able to see (admittedly one one-billionth less than any coach), I’d be focusing on EG (see above).

  16. joeschu - Apr 23, 2012 at 3:46 PM

    Keith – I presume Hercules was out because of the earlier illness? Anything new to report there?

  17. danirish - Apr 23, 2012 at 6:35 PM

    IMHO and if I were Kelly:

    What the heck – start Golsen, Hendrix def backup, red-shirt Kiel, put Rees in a red cap to direct and coach (I think a guy like Rees could be a good coach someday – I think he “gets” the game but it doesn’t translate to his body)

    ND has to take advantage of blow outs – one critique I have of Kelly is that he played Rees a lot when “the next man in” Hendrix could’ve received some valuable reps.

    But looking at Golsen – to much talent to not put on the field – I know I was alittle hard on him yesterday but I am getting on that wagon.

    Is it me: Is the running game that good or is our run defense suck or just didn’t perform?


  18. bblack55 - Apr 23, 2012 at 8:50 PM

    “Is it me: Is the running game that good or is our run defense suck or just didn’t perform?”

    An interesting point. I’m assuming our run defense is good, because everyone says it is (although there were quite a few missed tackles, including four on one play). That said, the running game looks like it could be very good this year – Wood, Riddick and Atkinson all looked pretty impressive and the OL looked awesome most of the time. If that turns out to be the case, we may not need a QB to light up the place, just one who doesn’t give the opponent an extra two or three possessions every game. The staff is likely to think that’s TR but Saturday’s performance really looked like reruns from last season. Golson looked confused a lot of the time but that should be the most fixable of all the problems. Hendrix looked better than Rees and seemed to be showing improvement. As for a guy that just LOOKS like a QB, my vote goes to Kiel. I think this is his team next year, regardless of what happens in 2012.

  19. danirish - Apr 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM

    I think I will say this with confidence:

    If we go 8-5 (7-6) with Rees playing his usual I will be mad.
    If we go 8-5 (7-6) with Golsen improving and getting valuable reps I will be happy with that.

    Anyone? Anyone?

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