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	<title>Comments on: Notre Dame to join ACC as football remains independent</title>
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		<title>By: buckeyeluvn</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 18:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I seem to have touched a nerve! Im not going to bash ND anymore. B1G Ten would&#039;ve been a better decision including the football team]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to have touched a nerve! Im not going to bash ND anymore. B1G Ten would&#8217;ve been a better decision including the football team</p>
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		<title>By: 9irish</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[very lame...&quot;Meeeechigan&quot; is more appropriate (they even say it that way in A2).  Meat Chicken?....I just don&#039;t get that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very lame&#8230;&#8221;Meeeechigan&#8221; is more appropriate (they even say it that way in A2).  Meat Chicken?&#8230;.I just don&#8217;t get that.</p>
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		<title>By: 9irish</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What are you, like a fat 19 year old, living in your mom&#039;s basement in Worthington?  Let me spell this out for you, ND fired their coach because he DID lie on his resume...after he was hired for 5 days.  OSU fired their coach after the freaking FBI and NCAA got involved in it.  Where the hell is your argument?  Why are you trying?  Why the hell are you even on here?

I love Ohio State, I&#039;m from around there.  People like you is what makes them look bad, and do bad things.  Mudslinging is not good on here, junior.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you, like a fat 19 year old, living in your mom&#8217;s basement in Worthington?  Let me spell this out for you, ND fired their coach because he DID lie on his resume&#8230;after he was hired for 5 days.  OSU fired their coach after the freaking FBI and NCAA got involved in it.  Where the hell is your argument?  Why are you trying?  Why the hell are you even on here?</p>
<p>I love Ohio State, I&#8217;m from around there.  People like you is what makes them look bad, and do bad things.  Mudslinging is not good on here, junior.</p>
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		<title>By: buckeyeluvn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[buckeyeluvn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And what has ND done since Holtz left? Lets see....Nothing! A coach that lied on his resume. Teehee!! The reason people care about the &quot;move&quot; is because its funny!!! ACC? Football to stay Independent?! Its just funny! Oh and by the way, the last time we played, which was a bowl game, we sent you guys home crying!  With Kelly there I do hope he brings you guys back to the top. So you can stop living in the past. The rose bowl games and the BCS games we were embarrassed in, where was ND? Oh I remember, either at home or playing in the Sisters of Mercy&#039;s annual fund raising bowl!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what has ND done since Holtz left? Lets see&#8230;.Nothing! A coach that lied on his resume. Teehee!! The reason people care about the &#8220;move&#8221; is because its funny!!! ACC? Football to stay Independent?! Its just funny! Oh and by the way, the last time we played, which was a bowl game, we sent you guys home crying!  With Kelly there I do hope he brings you guys back to the top. So you can stop living in the past. The rose bowl games and the BCS games we were embarrassed in, where was ND? Oh I remember, either at home or playing in the Sisters of Mercy&#8217;s annual fund raising bowl!</p>
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		<title>By: 9irish</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 08:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm....that&#039;s funny.  Everybody forgets about the 34 years in between OSUs Nat&#039;l Championships.  Well there were a bunch of lost Rose Bowls and old coaches attacking players in between.  

Since 2002, scumbag players and being humiliated in 2 BCS Championships, and firing another coach that should have worked for Nixon.

Stay classy, Columbus (in other words, STFU)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;.that&#8217;s funny.  Everybody forgets about the 34 years in between OSUs Nat&#8217;l Championships.  Well there were a bunch of lost Rose Bowls and old coaches attacking players in between.  </p>
<p>Since 2002, scumbag players and being humiliated in 2 BCS Championships, and firing another coach that should have worked for Nixon.</p>
<p>Stay classy, Columbus (in other words, STFU)</p>
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		<title>By: bblack55</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 16:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Notre Dame wasn&#039;t so irrelevant, this would have been a major story and all the news services would have been rushing to cover it. All the blogs would have hundreds of comments and........What? Really? So maybe they are relevant?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Notre Dame wasn&#8217;t so irrelevant, this would have been a major story and all the news services would have been rushing to cover it. All the blogs would have hundreds of comments and&#8230;&#8230;..What? Really? So maybe they are relevant?</p>
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		<title>By: wisner74</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wisner74]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry Nudeman, I guess the &#039;relevance&#039; thing was in response to another poster.  Regarding football alone and recruiting, I agree with you 100%.  I also agree about the entire southeast, but I do have a good friend in Columbia, SC, and another one in Jackson, MS.

My own theory on why the SE has so much talent has to do with the weather.  Kids there grow up being able to play outdoor sports all year.  Twelve months a year they can play sports that allow for a lot of running, jumping, throwing, catching etc., even if it&#039;s just on playgrounds.  Northern kids are limited to gyms at least 4-5 months a year.  That&#039;s why there is also so much talent to be found in Texas and S.Cal.  I think you have the same basic raw material all over the country, but the weather gives those places just enough of an advantage to make a difference.  This dynamic is especially notable in college baseball -- not very many good northern teams.  Also, contrast with basketball -- primarily an indoor game on the organized level.  If anything, the south and other warm climates lag in terms of producing talent there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Nudeman, I guess the &#8216;relevance&#8217; thing was in response to another poster.  Regarding football alone and recruiting, I agree with you 100%.  I also agree about the entire southeast, but I do have a good friend in Columbia, SC, and another one in Jackson, MS.</p>
<p>My own theory on why the SE has so much talent has to do with the weather.  Kids there grow up being able to play outdoor sports all year.  Twelve months a year they can play sports that allow for a lot of running, jumping, throwing, catching etc., even if it&#8217;s just on playgrounds.  Northern kids are limited to gyms at least 4-5 months a year.  That&#8217;s why there is also so much talent to be found in Texas and S.Cal.  I think you have the same basic raw material all over the country, but the weather gives those places just enough of an advantage to make a difference.  This dynamic is especially notable in college baseball &#8212; not very many good northern teams.  Also, contrast with basketball &#8212; primarily an indoor game on the organized level.  If anything, the south and other warm climates lag in terms of producing talent there.</p>
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		<title>By: wisner74</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wisner74]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can&#039;t argue with that.  Horrible.  And I thought that Butch Davis was one of the good guys.  I guess I was looking at UNC from top to bottom, academically very good and many very successful athletic teams, including a few that are close to legendary -- men&#039;s basketball and women&#039;s soccer.

Current scandal is a huge disappointment, but I don&#039;t think that puts the whole school in the Miami category.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t argue with that.  Horrible.  And I thought that Butch Davis was one of the good guys.  I guess I was looking at UNC from top to bottom, academically very good and many very successful athletic teams, including a few that are close to legendary &#8212; men&#8217;s basketball and women&#8217;s soccer.</p>
<p>Current scandal is a huge disappointment, but I don&#8217;t think that puts the whole school in the Miami category.</p>
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		<title>By: ndfansince69</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You included UNC in the Classy group?!?  Google their football program lately?  That is by far worse than FSU, Miami and USC combined.  Embarrassing scandal there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You included UNC in the Classy group?!?  Google their football program lately?  That is by far worse than FSU, Miami and USC combined.  Embarrassing scandal there.</p>
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		<title>By: nudeman</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I never used the word &quot;relevance&quot;. That came from you
ND has ALWAYS been relevant in my eyes

I have no love for the SEC, the schools, their ethics, or the states and their lousy climates
Almost died once in Florida from food poisoning
If the entire southeastern US decided to secede from the Union, I&#039;d help them pack

Having said that, there is no denying that the best football talent in the US is coming from the southeast these days. I don&#039;t know why that is and haven&#039;t read any explanations. But it&#039;s generally regarded as the case by most people who follow recruiting for a living.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never used the word &#8220;relevance&#8221;. That came from you<br />
ND has ALWAYS been relevant in my eyes</p>
<p>I have no love for the SEC, the schools, their ethics, or the states and their lousy climates<br />
Almost died once in Florida from food poisoning<br />
If the entire southeastern US decided to secede from the Union, I&#8217;d help them pack</p>
<p>Having said that, there is no denying that the best football talent in the US is coming from the southeast these days. I don&#8217;t know why that is and haven&#8217;t read any explanations. But it&#8217;s generally regarded as the case by most people who follow recruiting for a living.</p>
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		<title>By: papadec</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 05:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dmac - it gets pretty cold in Syracuse, Pitt &amp; Boston.   I&#039;ll laugh if scheduling ever puts Miami and/or FSU in Cuse, Pitt, Boston &amp; So Bend late in the same season.    Matter of fact, I&#039;m laughing just thinking about it - now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dmac &#8211; it gets pretty cold in Syracuse, Pitt &amp; Boston.   I&#8217;ll laugh if scheduling ever puts Miami and/or FSU in Cuse, Pitt, Boston &amp; So Bend late in the same season.    Matter of fact, I&#8217;m laughing just thinking about it &#8211; now.</p>
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		<title>By: norcalirish</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 05:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol nude, well done. 

This move is still throwing me for a loop. Could be great for ND, as long as we keep the traditional rivals on the sched. Wall to wall coverage in the news makes me smile. Don&#039;t take the &quot;not relevant&quot; bait, fellas. 

Now if they could only erase the memory of the shamrock series uniforms from my brain.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol nude, well done. </p>
<p>This move is still throwing me for a loop. Could be great for ND, as long as we keep the traditional rivals on the sched. Wall to wall coverage in the news makes me smile. Don&#8217;t take the &#8220;not relevant&#8221; bait, fellas. </p>
<p>Now if they could only erase the memory of the shamrock series uniforms from my brain&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: wisner74</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wisner74]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nudeman -  I guess you and I will have to agree to disagree.  First of all, we are only talking about the scenario where ND has to give up football independence.  You would rather have ND regionalized on the East Coast because there is more talent there?  We are not an Eastern school, and the ACC is not quite up the to the Big Ten academically, though certainly very respectable (for the most part).  I believe that wherever ND would end up re a football conference it would be able to recruit nationally.

You may argue that the geographic view of conference affiliations is no longer relevant given the recent upheavals.  I believe that the strongest conferences are those that maintain a geographic coherence. The Big Ten, the PAC 12 and the SEC are clearly the healthiest of the conferences and all of their members are in contiguous states; the other three are less so.  I think the ACC is probably fine, but the Big East will soon be spanning the country, all the way to San Diego St., and is probably going to explode one of these days. A year or two ago the Big 12 almost did explode, and now West Virginia is a member.  None of that makes sense to me.

There is more to this than just football.  Overall, the Big Ten would be the best place to be if it ever came to an all-in scenario.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nudeman &#8211;  I guess you and I will have to agree to disagree.  First of all, we are only talking about the scenario where ND has to give up football independence.  You would rather have ND regionalized on the East Coast because there is more talent there?  We are not an Eastern school, and the ACC is not quite up the to the Big Ten academically, though certainly very respectable (for the most part).  I believe that wherever ND would end up re a football conference it would be able to recruit nationally.</p>
<p>You may argue that the geographic view of conference affiliations is no longer relevant given the recent upheavals.  I believe that the strongest conferences are those that maintain a geographic coherence. The Big Ten, the PAC 12 and the SEC are clearly the healthiest of the conferences and all of their members are in contiguous states; the other three are less so.  I think the ACC is probably fine, but the Big East will soon be spanning the country, all the way to San Diego St., and is probably going to explode one of these days. A year or two ago the Big 12 almost did explode, and now West Virginia is a member.  None of that makes sense to me.</p>
<p>There is more to this than just football.  Overall, the Big Ten would be the best place to be if it ever came to an all-in scenario.</p>
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		<title>By: wisner74</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wisner74]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If all you care about is current football relevance, then I can&#039;t argue with you.  The SEC is where it&#039;s at. I won&#039;t concede, however, that the Big 10 is Neanderthal football.  It has enjoyed plenty of success in recent years.  But that&#039;s not my main point.  In the overall picture, from history and tradition to world class research universities to top-notch athletics, the Big Ten is the best of the six major conferences, and it&#039;s where the Irish belong if we have to give up football independence some day.

If all you care about is current relevance why aren&#039;t you rollin&#039; with the Tide today?  Since Lou left we haven&#039;t done much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If all you care about is current football relevance, then I can&#8217;t argue with you.  The SEC is where it&#8217;s at. I won&#8217;t concede, however, that the Big 10 is Neanderthal football.  It has enjoyed plenty of success in recent years.  But that&#8217;s not my main point.  In the overall picture, from history and tradition to world class research universities to top-notch athletics, the Big Ten is the best of the six major conferences, and it&#8217;s where the Irish belong if we have to give up football independence some day.</p>
<p>If all you care about is current relevance why aren&#8217;t you rollin&#8217; with the Tide today?  Since Lou left we haven&#8217;t done much.</p>
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		<title>By: nudeman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nudeman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wisner
The point is twofold:
1) ND has virtually nothing to gain by joining a conference in a part of the country (the Midwest) where they are already a prime time player. Joining a conference with tOSU, UM, MSU, IL, etc adds zero value. They already have a footprint in those schools&#039; backyards and compete on an even footing or better for talent. It would, I believe, reduce the value of the ND brand. 

2) My comments about the talent in the country in the southeast are specifically about football and specifically about states like FL, AL, GA, LA, etc; not ACC country. Again, don&#039;t give a fig about b-ball. Would be happy if they shut it down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wisner<br />
The point is twofold:<br />
1) ND has virtually nothing to gain by joining a conference in a part of the country (the Midwest) where they are already a prime time player. Joining a conference with tOSU, UM, MSU, IL, etc adds zero value. They already have a footprint in those schools&#8217; backyards and compete on an even footing or better for talent. It would, I believe, reduce the value of the ND brand. </p>
<p>2) My comments about the talent in the country in the southeast are specifically about football and specifically about states like FL, AL, GA, LA, etc; not ACC country. Again, don&#8217;t give a fig about b-ball. Would be happy if they shut it down.</p>
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		<title>By: wisner74</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wisner74]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t argue with the recent trends in college football.  SEC is clearly dominant, but don&#039;t role the ACC into your &quot;southeastern US&quot; generalization. Without recent additions to the ACC (Miami, FSU, BC) that conference has ALWAYS been regionalized in football.  We&#039;re helping it broaden its horizons, not the other way around.  And, I&#039;m pretty sure that the last non-SEC team to win the BCS was Ohio State.

I&#039;ve read your comments for a few years now and have frequently not only agreed with you, but also been entertained and even educated by your comments.  I&#039;ve only recently (since the Purdue game) chosen to participate.  Never knew, though, that you were all and only about football.  Care to check on graduation rates between SEC and Big Ten?  I really don&#039;t know; I haven&#039;t looked.  But I bet we both know what we&#039;d find.  

Far and away, the Big Ten is the classiest of the major conferences when you look at the whole picture, and when you look at the long term.  Who would you rather have the Irish rub elbows with: Michigan and Wisconsin, or LSU and Alabama?  Not even a close question.

ND is a midwestern school and it is very fortunate to find itself in the heart of Big Ten counrty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t argue with the recent trends in college football.  SEC is clearly dominant, but don&#8217;t role the ACC into your &#8220;southeastern US&#8221; generalization. Without recent additions to the ACC (Miami, FSU, BC) that conference has ALWAYS been regionalized in football.  We&#8217;re helping it broaden its horizons, not the other way around.  And, I&#8217;m pretty sure that the last non-SEC team to win the BCS was Ohio State.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read your comments for a few years now and have frequently not only agreed with you, but also been entertained and even educated by your comments.  I&#8217;ve only recently (since the Purdue game) chosen to participate.  Never knew, though, that you were all and only about football.  Care to check on graduation rates between SEC and Big Ten?  I really don&#8217;t know; I haven&#8217;t looked.  But I bet we both know what we&#8217;d find.  </p>
<p>Far and away, the Big Ten is the classiest of the major conferences when you look at the whole picture, and when you look at the long term.  Who would you rather have the Irish rub elbows with: Michigan and Wisconsin, or LSU and Alabama?  Not even a close question.</p>
<p>ND is a midwestern school and it is very fortunate to find itself in the heart of Big Ten counrty.</p>
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		<title>By: c4evr</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 02:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[now wait a minute, don&#039;t forget the early to mid-90&#039;s. After that... I got nothin&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>now wait a minute, don&#8217;t forget the early to mid-90&#8242;s. After that&#8230; I got nothin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: raysfan1</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 01:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, I second everything joeymagarac said.

Now, add also:
- Florida State, the school most commonly touted as likely to move, has financial issues and cannot afford to go 2 years with no TV revenue.  The rumor of them moving to the Big 12 was hokum from the get-go because the extra $3M in TV revenue would have been more than consumed by the added costs for travel for all the other sports besides football.
- They will not be invited to the SEC anyway because Florida opposes the move.  Plus, the state chancellor likes the greater geographic footprint of having the state&#039;s two flagship universities in separate conferences.  FSU cannot move without the state government&#039;s approval, and that isn&#039;t happening.

I do not know other schools&#039; situations as well, but none are at all likely to leave the ACC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I second everything joeymagarac said.</p>
<p>Now, add also:<br />
- Florida State, the school most commonly touted as likely to move, has financial issues and cannot afford to go 2 years with no TV revenue.  The rumor of them moving to the Big 12 was hokum from the get-go because the extra $3M in TV revenue would have been more than consumed by the added costs for travel for all the other sports besides football.<br />
- They will not be invited to the SEC anyway because Florida opposes the move.  Plus, the state chancellor likes the greater geographic footprint of having the state&#8217;s two flagship universities in separate conferences.  FSU cannot move without the state government&#8217;s approval, and that isn&#8217;t happening.</p>
<p>I do not know other schools&#8217; situations as well, but none are at all likely to leave the ACC.</p>
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		<title>By: raysfan1</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 01:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yup, both lame joke and bad typing]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, both lame joke and bad typing</p>
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		<title>By: runners00</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[runners00]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 01:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m pretty sure that there are out clauses for at least some of these games. Hard to schedule 20 years in advance without an out clause with advance notice. Who knows? Hard to see no Michigan game. Hard to imagine no Michigan State game. Impossible to imagine ND without  SC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure that there are out clauses for at least some of these games. Hard to schedule 20 years in advance without an out clause with advance notice. Who knows? Hard to see no Michigan game. Hard to imagine no Michigan State game. Impossible to imagine ND without  SC.</p>
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		<title>By: buckeyeluvn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[buckeyeluvn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 01:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They havent been relevant since the 80&#039;s.  Only to ND fans. Oh...and NBC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They havent been relevant since the 80&#8242;s.  Only to ND fans. Oh&#8230;and NBC.</p>
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		<title>By: seamus0317</title>
		<link>http://irish.nbcsports.com/2012/09/12/notre-dame-to-join-acc-as-football-remains-independent/comment-page-1/#comment-25835</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seamus0317]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 00:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remove all the automatic tie-ins to bowls and see how relevant the B1G 10 would be! Neanderthal football. Urban Legend will change some of the culture but 3 yards and a cloud of dust will define it forever. ND football is relevant but not at the forefront of the current landscape.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remove all the automatic tie-ins to bowls and see how relevant the B1G 10 would be! Neanderthal football. Urban Legend will change some of the culture but 3 yards and a cloud of dust will define it forever. ND football is relevant but not at the forefront of the current landscape.</p>
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		<title>By: nudeman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nudeman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mtndguy
Talking about Shirley back in her day
A babe
Legs longer than the day is long]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mtndguy<br />
Talking about Shirley back in her day<br />
A babe<br />
Legs longer than the day is long</p>
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		<title>By: nudeman</title>
		<link>http://irish.nbcsports.com/2012/09/12/notre-dame-to-join-acc-as-football-remains-independent/comment-page-1/#comment-25832</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nudeman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Big 10 is yesterday in terms of football talent
In case you haven&#039;t noticed the southeastern US is where most of the premium talent is coming from these days

Joining the Big 10 for football is the first step towards the regionalization of the ND football program]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Big 10 is yesterday in terms of football talent<br />
In case you haven&#8217;t noticed the southeastern US is where most of the premium talent is coming from these days</p>
<p>Joining the Big 10 for football is the first step towards the regionalization of the ND football program</p>
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		<title>By: wisner74</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wisner74]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a great move for ND, although personally I am not thrilled at the prospect of more games with schools the likes of FSU and Miami (not because they are football powers, but because I have questions about their priorities. In that respect I was disappointed with the NCAA violatons at USC, which I had always respected as an overall institution.).  I also have a visceral hatred for all things Boston College.  Very happy, however, to associate with Duke, UNC, Georgia Tech, UVA and most of the others.  Pretty classy group.

This is a big upgrade for us athletically and academically as well.  I do have to say, however, that if we ever have to join a conference for ALL sports, the Big Ten is far and away the best option.  But I&#039;m worried that with this move a shift to all-in with the Big Ten becomes more difficult.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great move for ND, although personally I am not thrilled at the prospect of more games with schools the likes of FSU and Miami (not because they are football powers, but because I have questions about their priorities. In that respect I was disappointed with the NCAA violatons at USC, which I had always respected as an overall institution.).  I also have a visceral hatred for all things Boston College.  Very happy, however, to associate with Duke, UNC, Georgia Tech, UVA and most of the others.  Pretty classy group.</p>
<p>This is a big upgrade for us athletically and academically as well.  I do have to say, however, that if we ever have to join a conference for ALL sports, the Big Ten is far and away the best option.  But I&#8217;m worried that with this move a shift to all-in with the Big Ten becomes more difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: buckeyeluvn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[buckeyeluvn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still scared of the B1G TEN]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still scared of the B1G TEN</p>
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		<title>By: mtndguy</title>
		<link>http://irish.nbcsports.com/2012/09/12/notre-dame-to-join-acc-as-football-remains-independent/comment-page-1/#comment-25826</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mtndguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nude, Do Shirley McClaine? Seriously?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nude, Do Shirley McClaine? Seriously?</p>
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		<title>By: mtndguy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mtndguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL</p>
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		<title>By: seamus0317</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seamus0317]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Launch Stanford and Purdue. Keep the M schools, SC &amp; Middies. Add the 5 rotating ACC&#039;s. Find an east, Midwest, and west opponent each year to fill out the remaining games.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Launch Stanford and Purdue. Keep the M schools, SC &amp; Middies. Add the 5 rotating ACC&#8217;s. Find an east, Midwest, and west opponent each year to fill out the remaining games.</p>
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		<title>By: whodabigdog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[whodabigdog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about poor Gino.He blames ND for the big east problems by not joining in football. Now he has thethe whole conference to himself because  Muffet and Skyler wont be there to kick his winey but!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about poor Gino.He blames ND for the big east problems by not joining in football. Now he has thethe whole conference to himself because  Muffet and Skyler wont be there to kick his winey but!</p>
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