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Oct 5, 2012, 2:21 AM EDT

Catholics vs. Convicts

Notre Dame – Miami. It may not be the blood feud it was 20 years ago, but the match-up certainly lights up the marquee. And with a stage as unique as Soldier Field and in a city like Chicago, there’s plenty of luster left in a game that might not mean what it once did, but still is a headline grabber.

“We understand the history of this ball game,” Manti Te’o said this week. “But we also understand the importance of being ourselves and not buying in to the whole hype of a rivalry game.”

As we prepare for No. 9 Notre Dame to take on a young and feisty Miami team that’s 4-1, let’s run through six tidbits, leftovers, fun facts, and miscellaneous musings before the Shamrock Series kicks off at 7:30 p.m. ET on NBC.

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1. Despite the whispers, the quarterback job is still Everett Golson’s.

Rumors spread like wildfire across the internet that Brian Kelly, already known for his hair trigger at the quarterback position, was ready to make another big change. Yet when Kelly addressed the media this afternoon, he reaffirmed the news that Everett Golson was still his starting quarterback.

“It’s the same guy who’s been the starter the last four weeks,” Kelly said with a smile. “I thought I made that pretty clear. But Everett will start in Week Five, and I expect him to start in Week Six and Seven and Eight, Nine, Ten, Eleven, Twelve, and Thirteen.”

And with that, another (ND) national crisis was averted. The news that Kelly is sticking with Golson is far from shocking, and is a consistent tune for a head coach willing to roll with the punches as he develops his young quarterback.

“He is getting better. There is so much development that’s taking place that’s not on Saturdays,” Kelly said. “It’s coming. We’re not a finished product yet, and I’ve got a guy in Tommy Rees who can come in and help us while we go through this process of learning. I’m comfortable with it. I guess that’s all I can really say, but yes, Everett will start.”

A few evenings after watching two politicians carefully craft statements, Kelly’s comments on Golson come off as more declarative than the two men fighting to be the free world’s leader, but there’s still a sprinkle of ex-politico in Kelly’s statements.

Over the bye week, junior Tommy Rees took a large portion of first team reps at practice. And when asked about the state of the locker room in regards to who the team’s quarterback should be, Kelly carefully picked his words.

“I’m aware of our team and I have the pulse of our football team as it relates to who would be the quarterback,” Kelly said. “I’d feel very comfortable saying that our football team will respond to whatever decision I make. I think I’ve got the trust of our football team that they know that I’m going to do whatever is in the best interest of our football team, to win right now.”

For now, that means Golson will get the chance to go against Miami’s mediocre defense.

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2. It’s time for Notre Dame’s running game to kick into gear.

The Irish offense hasn’t moved the ball as well on the ground as many expected. Slogging their way to just 3.8 yards per carry and a meager 140 yards a game, Kelly discussed the challenges that have come around with changing up schemes.

“It hasn’t been talked a lot about, but we were a heavy gap-pull team last year, and we are much more of an inside-outside zone team this year,” Kelly said. “The reads are very much different for the running back… The idiosyncrasies of it all are really big. I won’t bore you with the details, but I will say it takes more patience and we really focused on that more this week.”

Running back Theo Riddick embodies the run game struggles, leading the team in carries with 63, but averaging only 3.8 yards a tote. While the offensive line certainly hasn’t played up to the level it expects, Riddick has left plenty of yardage on the field with his propensity to cut back against the grain too quickly, unwilling to wait for the outside run to develop.

But after a week off, the Irish might encounter the best slump-buster Chicago has to offer: The Hurricanes defense. Entering Saturday night with the nation’s 115th ranked run defense, Miami will be without starting defensive tackle Olsen Pierre.

And after missing the season’s first two games due to suspension and struggling to find a rhythm against Michigan, expect Cierre Wood to get every chance to seize the starting job on Saturday night. Even struggling, the Irish senior has gone for 5.6 yards a touch, a number that should go up on Saturday.

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3. Even if he wasn’t a wrecking ball on the defensive line, Louis Nix is a guy you want in the middle of anything.

Let’s not let Louis Nix‘s tremendous personality get in the way of the work he does on the field. The junior defensive tackle, at 6-foot-3 and far-more-than-his-listed-326-pounds, is a tremendous key to the Irish’s pass rush against prolific thrower and dangerous runner Stephen Morris. He’s played active, relentless football this season, and his three tackles-for-loss and 1.5 sacks give the Irish a legitimate disruptor at the line of scrimmage that also has the ability to chase down the quarterback.

But leave all that behind, and Nix is still a guy you want to build your team around. If only because you get to listen to wonderful nuggets like these. JJ Stankevitz of CSNChicago.com has plenty more.

As Notre Dame’s defense has spurred its 4-0 start, Louis Nix has begun to earn national praise for his work on the interior of the Irish defensive line.

But not everyone is praising his work as a defensive tackle, although that’s because Nix’s little brother, Kenneth, has his older brother’s position mixed up.

“I don’t know where they got quarterback from,” Nix laughed. “My little brother had a presentation for class and he told them I was the quarterback.”

But Nix wasn’t going to leave it at that.

“You know, right about now, I would love to play quarterback,” he continued, in complete deadpan mode. “I think I’d be real good at it, you know, put me in the wildcat. I don’t even want to play running back, though, I want to be a wildcat QB.

“I look like one, huh?” the 326-pound Nix added between bites of a Hershey’s bar.

Nix said all the right things about his evolution as a player, crediting added maturity for his success in South Bend, a place not many in Florida thought made sense for one of Jacksonville’s elite football talents. But he also let his personality shine through, raising more than a few reporters’ eyebrows when addressing his biggest weakness: Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

“If they don’t have it, I get cranky. I don’t want to eat Honey Bunches of Oats. Really? I need something sweet.”

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4. Brian Kelly isn’t shying away from the idea that Manti Te’o is a Heisman candidate. But for as good as he’s been between the lines, he’s been even more impressive off the field.

Linebacker Manti Te’o has already found himself on the cover of Sports Illustrated. And as he continues to fill up the stat sheet as a sideline to sideline tackler and a turnover forcing machine, Brian Kelly has no problem pushing Te’o’s candidacy for the Heisman Trophy, college football’s most prestigious award.

“I’ve said this from day one,” Kelly said. “What is the definition of a Heisman Trophy candidate? If you go with he has to be a quarterback or an offensive player, well, I don’t think he plays on offense. But if you’re looking for one of the best, if not the best college football players that impacts your program‑‑ look, if you said it was the MVP, does it have to be an offensive player MVP?  Sure.  He’s got to have some offensive numbers or statistics. But you’re also judged by how you impact your team and what you do on the defensive side of the ball.”

But more importantly, Te’o’s ability to play excellent football at a time of severe duress is one of the most impressive things I’ve ever witnessed from a student athlete. More important, he’s shown his teammates — college kids that play a rough and tumble game — that it’s okay to show vulnerability during a time of need, as he’s opened himself up to his teammates and community during this difficult time.

Te’o spent over 40 minutes with the assembled media this week, an unprecedented amount of time for a single player, let alone the Irish head coach. He was emotional, honest, humble, candid, and strong. He was the perfect example of what any athlete should strive to be.

If you’ve got the time, it’s the best performance Te’o has ever had representing Notre Dame, on or off the field.

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5. Notre Dame’s roster management is beginning to take shape.

The biggest personnel news to come out of South Bend was the decision to redshirt running back Amir Carlisle for the season. The sophomore running back, who transferred from USC to Notre Dame during the offseason, had received an NCAA waiver exemption to play this season. But after breaking his ankle in the days leading to spring practice, Carlisle was slow to return to health, and he’ll sit out the year, with three full seasons of eligibility remaining.

“We’re going to redshirt Amir. He will not play this year,” Kelly said. “He’s made close to the kind of recovery that we were hoping when we saw some really good things from him. We don’t want to waste him now.”

The news comes the same week as the Irish announced sophomore defensive end Chase Hounshell will also sit out the rest of the season, with season-ending shoulder surgery allowing Hounshell to save a year of eligibility and still have three seasons left. That extra year of eligibility will come in handy with a guy like Stephon Tuitt looking like he might not need four years of college football.

Just like in Hounshell’s case, the decision to hold Carlisle out, a dynamic player that I expected to fight his way into the two-deep at running back, helps for the long term growth of this football team.

“He’s really close and to try to fit him in in week five or six and use up another year for a half season wasn’t prudent in my mind,” Kelly said. “So we’re going to shut him down, put him on scout team, let him be a great guy over there and let our defense prepare, and then have him back for three seasons of competition.”

After watching Charlie Weis butcher the use of redshirts, Kelly’s understanding of the strategic elements should be a welcome sight for Notre Dame fans. Keeping Carlisle protects Notre Dame in case Cierre Wood wants to test the NFL waters. Keeping an extra year of Hounshell gives the Irish some protection on the front line in life after Tuitt.

As we head to the middle of the season, Kelly’s also looking at other young players that might also be able to save a highly valued year of eligibility.

“We’re getting close to that. We’re not there yet,” Kelly said. “We’ve got a make a decision up to game six and you can’t play in more than three games. So we’ve got a couple of guys on the bubble for the next couple of weeks where we’ll have to make some decisions.”

It might have been painful, but injuries to guys like Lo Wood and Austin Collinsworth help slow down the eligibility clock of guys that are racing through their collegiate career. And while we’ve seen youngsters like Romeo Okwara and Ronnie Stanley, perhaps there’s a method to Kelly’s madness and a plan to extend the careers of some young Irish players, while also getting them valuable on-the-field experience.

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6. It might not be Catholics vs. Convicts, but Notre Dame vs. Miami still means an awful lot.

There isn’t a player on the Irish roster that’s old enough to remember the bitter rivalry between Notre Dame and Miami. After Jimmy Johnson‘s 58-7 beating of Notre Dame all but ended the Gerry Faust era, the rivalry turned into the Hatfields and McCoys in 1987, with the Irish splitting the series 2-2 over the next four years, including one of the greatest victories Notre Dame has ever had in its 31-30 win over the ‘Canes in 1988.

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While it took 20 years to renew the rivalry, it still matters, as director Billy Corben, filmmaker behind the terrific ESPN documentary “The U” notes.

“Literally, national championships were on the line,” Corben reminisced with the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. “Every call mattered. Every play mattered. In 1988 in particular. Of course you had the tunnel fight that year as well. Similar things started to happen with a lot of teams from that era like the University of Florida wanted to stop playing Miami.

“I liked that there was a genuine lack of respect for each other. I appreciated that because in those days it was the WWF, the fake wrestling. So this was real. These were real kids and they really wanted to literally take each other’s heads off.

“It was just a real visceral and profound quality to the rivalry that got you really, really pumped. You’d feel your pulse and your pulse would go up. You were genuinely excited about the whole thing. Who was going to win? How were we going to get robbed?  And we’re going to kick their a** before, after and during the game.”

Those sentiments are certainly echoed by many Irish fans that I’ve had the pleasure of talking to this week. And after the Irish embarrassed Miami in the 2010 Sun Bowl — a game that saw Hurricanes players take refuge next to heaters are hide behind face warmers in the brisk El Paso weather — the team’s might not be the national contenders they once were, but there’s still an edge to this game.

“The teams aren’t quite at that level, so the excitement isn’t quite at that level anymore,” Corben said. “That being said, I hope we destroy them.”

Spoken like a true Miami fan.

102 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. 818irish - Oct 5, 2012 at 2:56 AM

    Establishing the run would go a long way to helping develop and settle down a certain young QB… It would certainly put him in the best possible position to succeed.

    Miami’s defense is all sorts of terrible… Seems like a good time for BK to work in some read-option for Golson.

    I know it’s not the rivalry it once was, but I’m pumped up for this game especially considering the venue.

    Go Irish!

    • cameronemclaughlin - Oct 5, 2012 at 10:23 AM

      I don’t know if Kelly dislikes the read option, or if he doesn’t trust Golson to run it, but with our success running outside, and lack of success between the tackles, I’m also interested to see if it could be effective.

  2. tampadomer - Oct 5, 2012 at 4:48 AM

    Hey guys I just posted this on another topic on the website but I do encourage you to check out cameronxcrazy on youtube. He covers all the Notre Dame games starting this year. He really has done an amazing job with the videos, so check him out and give him your appreciation so he keeps making videos for us the rest of the season.

    • papadec - Oct 6, 2012 at 2:30 AM

      Thanks cameronx – I enjoyed it.

  3. yaketyyacc - Oct 5, 2012 at 7:24 AM

    Riddick’s 3.8 yards points out, not his inabilility to run, but poor playcalling. First run 12 yards, second 7 yards, third 0 yards, fourth -2. This pattern holds true for Wood, Atkiinson III, or any running back given the ball for several consecutive plays. If the entire football audience knows who is going to carry the ball, so does, even a poor defense. Charlie Weis did the same thing. It is the so called offensive geniuses, as “look at my Super Bowl rings” weis, and “look at my record at Cincinnati” Kelly, that need to involve themselves in THE PROCESS. The result of genius has produced two 8-5 seasons.
    Coach, can you eat humble pie, and join your team in THE PROCESS, and become a great offensive coordinator?
    Joe Kuharick went 10-0 at San Francisco(I think) and never produced another championship for the rest of his thirty plus years in college or pros. Still, that one 10-0 season gave him the aura of genius. Coach Kelly, I like you and want you to do good things for Notre Dame. Please accerpt this in the spirit it is given.

    • nudeman - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:16 AM

      yakker,
      Not a shot at you at all, but I’ve always thought that bitching about playcalling is the lowest possible form of being a fan. I’ve done it myself; everybody does it. But unless it’s REALLY egregious (like consistently running double reverses on 1st down in the red zone) then give it a rest.

      Coaches watch game film all week, they know what the D tendencies are in every situation and call plays accordingly. More often than not, plays that don’t work are the fault of missed blocks or a RB dancing around before he gets to the hole, or a WR running the wrong route (hello Dez Bryant).

      I’ve read about 100 comments about the play calling against MSU in the 2nd half being too conservative. Ridiculous. A rookie QB, hostile crowd, smothering D, and in complete control of the game. I was fine with playing a field position game. And a 7+ minute drive, largely on the ground, to close things out in the 4th qtr. They won.

      If they call a game this week that has them throwing 15 passes and 50-60 runs and they are controlling the clock and win 31-16, I’m just fine with that too.

      • heisenbyrg - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:31 AM

        Not to mention the playcalling has resulted in a 4-0 record.

      • domer77blowsgoats - Oct 5, 2012 at 12:10 PM

        So based on the above logic it doesn’t matter who is in at QB as long as the result is a W?

      • nudeman - Oct 5, 2012 at 12:18 PM

        Well a “W” is the goal, so I’m inclined to agree
        Almost
        Everybody here not named “goat” knows:

        1) Rees is a ticking time bomb. Insert him for a quarter here and there, OK. Make him your full time starter with teams like OK, BYU and USC coming up and we’re fu**ed

        2) So overall, an ND team with Golson playing well like we know he can play is a better and more dangerous team.

      • mtndguy - Oct 5, 2012 at 1:02 PM

        Inconsistencies in the run game have to do with the change in blocking to an inside outside zone which requires different reads by the running back. As noted in the article, this has been a problem for the running backs. Watch some of the previous games again, you’ll see holes open up in the line that the running backs don’t hit. It has nothing to do with the play calling and everything to do with the new scheme.

      • nudeman - Oct 5, 2012 at 1:03 PM

        Goat life-to-date stats:
        Non football posts: 482
        Shots at nude (sub category of above): 480
        Football posts with an opinion and insight: 0

        Value to this board: A shade above zero

      • NotreDan - Oct 6, 2012 at 12:15 AM

        Ok. I’m in. DomerSucksSheep. STFU

    • nudeman - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:57 AM

      yakker,
      Re the rest of the post, I think you’re a little hard on BK.
      It’s pretty clear now that:

      1) He inherited a team with no QB. My personal epiphany has come this year watching Crist play. He’s just not very good, even against teams like Northern Illinois. Tommy Rees and Nate Montana, neither of whom had taken a snap were the next clowns in.

      2) They were a soft squad. Disagree? Watch some of the films of Weis’s last games where they were losing at home to Connecticut and Navy. The prior year they lost to Syracuse on Senior day at home.

      3) As much as last year was infuriating, think about how close they were to 10-2. Or even 11-2. That type of “what if” talk is for losers, but if Tommy Rees doesn’t whiff on a throw at UM, if Crist doesn’t sh** the bed against USF and USC, and blah blah … we’re not having this conversation

      4) Regarding BK citing his record … wtf is he supposed to do when people question whether he has what it takes? Should he say “ya know, I’ve been wondering the same thing myself”. Jesus …

      The trajectory is upward, without a doubt.

      As Lou Holtz once said “we’re not where we want to be; we’re not where we ought to be. But thank God we’re not where we were”

      • mtndguy - Oct 5, 2012 at 1:10 PM

        Nude, awesome post. I’m in full agreement. The difference BK has made in player development and toughness was visible to me when the players ran on the field against Navy. They look leaner, bigger, and stronger. They hit harder, and keep fighting when they make a mistake. This ND team doesn’t seem to give up. That’s a huge difference from the Wies teams.

        I’ve noticed the same thing about Crist. I always figured that BK was playing the best quarterback he’d been dealt, but it’s nice to see that was most likely the case given Crist’s first few games this year.

      • runners00 - Oct 5, 2012 at 1:22 PM

        thank you. Love this response.

      • 808raiderinparadise - Oct 5, 2012 at 7:13 PM

        I agree …. but theres is no way we beat USC this year unless our offense can get a run game and a 3rd and long package that can bail us out a few times a game.

        Right now we have a BCS Title Contender defense and a Sun Bowl Offense.

        The offense has 3 dynamic backs, some Wr talent and an elite TE, but the o-line and QB play have held the team back from drilling teams.

        TIme will tell.

      • irishbornraised - Oct 6, 2012 at 3:32 AM

        Leave it to Lou Holtz to say something that perfect.

      • ndfaithful - Oct 6, 2012 at 9:42 AM

        I will add that in fairness to BK, he was reciting the record when he was 0-2 last year too. He’s kind of a no-nonsense guy in this regard. Also, there’s all these comments about what we CANNOT do. What a shame. Where’s the hope, optimism, even realism. 4-0 is good.

        People would say “we can’t beat Michigan unless we score points”. We kept them out of the endzone and found a way. Now everyone is saying “there’s no way we’ll beat (future opponent) without a new coach, qb, gameplan, (insert your monday morning head coach speak here)” The truth is that it’s a team game and so far they’ve found a way and toughed ‘em out.

        Look at recent history. LSU got all the way to the title game last year with a pretty lame offense. Alabama won it and while they ran the ball well last year, their defense made their offense look a lot better. Most teams would run the ball pretty well with all the possessions and against very tired defenses.

        Finally, I have to give a big DITTO about Nude’s comments on bitching about play calling. Bad play calling is the weakest form of criticism in the world. I don’t see a lot of fullback dives on 3rd ant 20. I don’t see a lot of 40-yard routes on 3rd and inches. I don’t see a single loss, let alone a loss due to a controversial call. It’s really clear that some folks here just think they know the team a lot better than the coaching staff. And then the same folks pick and choose facts (and fiction) to backup their arrogance.

        Somebody posted it earlier and if I could remember who, i’d give them credit. There’s an old phrase used by Lou Holtz and others that you know you’re doing something right when people are all complaining about how you’re winning.

      • tburke9601 - Oct 6, 2012 at 9:51 AM

        Can any one explain to me what the different blocking scheme’s are? And what is the benefit of an Inside- ouside- zone over a Gap-pull scheme? Am i the only dummy that has no idea what he is talking about by this? Would love to know why this change was made, because when you had 2 running backs the could have eclipsed 1000 yrds rushing last year, one that did, why would you make a change to what we are doing this year?

      • nudeman - Oct 6, 2012 at 10:50 AM

        Not only can I not explain the blocking scheme stuff, I think it’s overrated as any sort of explanation/excuse for why they’re struggling. As Mike Ditka once said (paraphrasing): “This is FOOTBALL; just knock someone on their a**”

        Works for me.

        Iron Mike 48
        Miami 2

      • tburke9601 - Oct 6, 2012 at 11:37 AM

        nude, as always your incite is greatly appreciated! just really curious about what the differences are.

    • runners00 - Oct 5, 2012 at 1:20 PM

      I totally disagree with you on this. Good teams aren’t tricky. They line up and say, “Stop us.” You think there was anything tricky about LeSean McCoy last year in Philadelphia? How about Shaun Alexander in Seattle a few years back when he rushed for 1800 yards? Tomlinson in San Diego is another good example.

      Good teams are good because they can line up and take care of the other team. This is what we have to do tomorrow night. Our offense has to perform better than their defense. Period. And the way that we do that is by giving some room for our running backs. I don’t care if it’s Wood or Riddick or Atkinson. They’re all quick and strong and can break tackles. But our offensive line has to be better than they were against Michigan. And our receivers have to block better on running plays. I think we can do it, but it takes a lot of focus.

    • joeymagarac - Oct 5, 2012 at 3:05 PM

      It is the so called offensive geniuses, as “look at my Super Bowl rings” weis, and “look at my record at Cincinnati” Kelly, that need to involve themselves in THE PROCESS.

      Weis certainly invited people to look at his Super Bowl rings. But has Kelly really ever defended himself by asking people to look at his record at Cincinnati? I’ve never seen him do that. He does sometimes mention that he’s been a head coach for a long time, but that’s usually not a boast but rather an explanation (e.g., I needed every one of my years of experience to be able to handle the rigors of this job).

      If YOU criticized Kelly’s play-calling, I would probably point to his record at Cincinnati and suggest that he probably didn’t get dumb all of a sudden. I would say that there must be some explanation for why a coach who goes 12-0 at Cincinnati goes 8-5 and 8-5 at Notre Dame, and it’s probably not that he lost his ability to run an offense. But to Kelly’s credit, I don’t think HE actually does that.

  4. phillyj - Oct 5, 2012 at 9:08 AM

    “Rumors spread like wildfire across the internet that Brian Kelly…was ready to make another big change.” Gee Keith, I wonder where those, ahem,”rumors” came from? Sheesh.

    • dmac4real - Oct 5, 2012 at 9:42 AM

      “Over the bye week, junior Tommy Rees took a large portion of first team reps at practice.”

      Just adding to more rumors. What isnt metioned is that EG had shoulder pain and was taking a break. I love KAs work, but this QB thing is getting wack.

    • nudeman - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:18 AM

      philly
      LOFL. Good one.

      When does the “revolt” begin?
      I’m sitting here in my combat gear, ready to charge into the Gug.

      • ndgoldandblue - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:29 AM

        Now that’s hilarious.

      • nudeman - Oct 5, 2012 at 12:03 PM

        It’s not just me. Trenches dug on campus, undergrads in gear, the chants of “REES, REES” can barely be heard above the din of the students and subway alums marching, rifles being loaded, etc.

        Some raw footage just in

      • irishbornraised - Oct 6, 2012 at 3:40 AM

        Love it

    • bernhtp - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:20 AM

      Too many people here apparently have poor reading comprehension. Keith didn’t write that Golson would be replaced as starter or that there is a locker room revolt over the issue. The tense is wrong. He did say, and correctly, that most on the team believe that Rees is the best QB today. The team does see Golson’s ability and potential, and seems to buy into Kelly’s strategy for developing it. They’re also thankful that Kelly puts in Rees at times where the outcome may be on the line.

      However, Golson’s starting position is not permanent. It is contingent upon him developing and improving, especially following his dreadful play against Michigan and the upcoming gauntlet of very difficult opponents such as Stanford, Oklahoma and USC. I think the team and Kelly are aligned – they want to win both now and in the future. Kelly is balancing this as best as he can. I expect Golson’s leash will get shorter and Kelly’s trigger will get faster – whichever metaphor you prefer – as games get more important and if Golson does not materially improve. This could culminate in Everett losing his starting position. I also don’t expect it to happen.

      • nudeman - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:33 AM

        Wrong.

        1) He said “many” on the team want Rees. That word – many – is wildly subjective and could be 40 – 50 or 6.

        2) My guess: “Many” is some – NOT ALL – of the seniors. Eifert, for example lives with Rees and has seen his own production drop with EG. I say he’s not terribly objective on the matter. Maybe just me.

        3) Keith explicitly said that there would be a locker room “revolt” if EG doesn’t play well and Rees isn’t reinserted. I didn’t believe it 2 days ago; I don’t believe it today. You just don’t see a lot of festering revolts when a team is 4-0, with a good chance to be 5-0.

        4) NO ONE has a PERMANENT starting position, on ANY team. Some have longer leashes than others. If Manti plays poorly against Miami and Stanford, he’s most likely still starting. Others, not so much.

      • Keith Arnold - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:41 AM

        Bern — Thank you.

        You’d think people who read this blog would understand that nuance and comprehension are things that might not always live on the internet, but try to exist here.

        I didn’t start ANY rumors, I reported information. You wouldn’t hear Eric Hanson asking Kelly a thoughtful question — and Kelly giving a very thoughtful, but calculated response — if I was the only one throwing things against the wall.

        Before you guys all went crazy, the point of the article earlier this week was to point out that if ND keeps winning, it’s going to be harder and harder to deal w/Golson learning on the fly. And if Golson has another stink bomb of a performance against Miami, then it’s going to be hard to keep your players — let alone your offensive coaches — happy if you keep trotting him out there.

        Numbers are numbers. Golson’s aren’t bad. But I’ve talked to some people who analyze football for a living that looked at the game tape from Mich State and Purdue and didn’t think Golson made good decisions or played that great. And guess what, he’s a redshirt freshman, he’s not supposed to play perfect yet.

        The team trusts BK to make the right decision at QB, especially if the team keeps winning. But eventually, they’re going to need to score with their opponents — especially in games like Oklahoma and SC. But this offense absolutely needs to get on track before Stanford, because that defense is really tough.

      • nudeman - Oct 5, 2012 at 12:08 PM

        Keith
        The article and the way you’ve explained it were reasonable and well done.
        But you have to understand that you buried the lead, somewhat.
        Saying there is some sort of locker room divide is an explosive charge, and teams fall apart over less than that.

        And I think your use of the word “many” was a poor choice. If I had to guess, I’d say it breaks down this way, in terms of the team’s QB preference:

        10% Want Rees as the QB, like right now
        10% Want Golson
        80% Have no spoken preference – even off the record – and just want to win

        I think “many” was very misleading.

      • Keith Arnold - Oct 5, 2012 at 12:34 PM

        Nude — Once again, you’re like one of those slimy politicians that just loves making things bigger than they are. Nowhere in the original column did I mention revolt. There was never anything “explicitly said,” so enough already.

        The only time I did mention that specific word — which might have been a poor choice — was when I was responding to a snarky comment by someone claiming I was just bored during the bye week, instead of — what I actually was doing — calling around and checking up on the team during a really important developmental week.

        Your schtick is tired. Breaking down every single word and then cross-examining it. Now we’re going to debate the “wildly subjective” definition of “many?”

        Gimme a break.

        If you guys want to know why I don’t hang around these comment sections that often, you’re probably understanding why. I’d never be able to do my job(s) and continue writing, because I’d have to explain every word choice.

      • domer77blowsgoats - Oct 5, 2012 at 12:42 PM

        here here!!

        what Keith no time to sit around and hit refresh all day and simply scroll down and CRTL+C, CRTL+V your previous posts each time a new comment is posted or new article is up?

        im afraid you are not afforded a life outside of trolling every podcast, every blog, every comment section, and re-read and cross examine all public information…

      • nudeman - Oct 5, 2012 at 12:44 PM

        Keith
        Your board thrives on people reading and commenting, just like all boards

        If you’re going to write provocative columns like the other day – which I think is fine, though I disagreed with its thesis – then you need to accept it when some disagree. Would you rather that we take our 200+ comments and say “KA doesn’t know wtf he’s doing; I’m deleting this bookmark”, then go away permanently?

        Relax. Debate and disagreement are GOOD for your biz

        And btw, for a writer who says he doesn’t have the time to “hang aorund:, you seem to always know when someone writes something critical

      • c4evr - Oct 5, 2012 at 3:41 PM

        Part of the PERCEIVED problem on this – or any – blog is when the writer editorializes. If Keith reports his findings with no particular point of view, then we get to hash out the details in our comments. If however, Keith allows his sentiment to enter in to the article (which I’m under the opinion does happen from time to time), then things can get messy. I happen to like Rees and his ability to brush off the very things that drive Nude crazy (e.g. turnovers) because I’ve seen him rise to the occasion numerous times. My problem is, and has always been, Kelly’s bungling of the QB situation as a whole. Nothing new there. In short, if Keith knowingly interjects his opinion into his articles, then he really has no right to bitch and moan about any of the blowback. We, as posters on the other hand, reserve that right exclusively : )

      • nudeman - Oct 5, 2012 at 4:05 PM

        c4ever
        No one banged on Kelly for the QB mess harder than me. But now that I’ve seen more of Dayne Crist at KU and also heard the story about Crist sort of leading some dysfunctional bitch sessions last year (maybe including Weis, maybe not), I have to say I was wrong.

        He inherited garbage. Dayne who was at best OK; Nate Montana who is terrible; and Tommy who is functional. Barely. And Hendrix who has the calming presence of Barney Fife in the pocket.

        So last year, what else was he to do? I still think he should have played Hendrix more over Rees, but now it turns out Hendrix isn’t the answer either.

      • c4evr - Oct 5, 2012 at 4:37 PM

        I get it, especially regarding Crist. All of those were forgivable if Golson hadn’t shown the same deer in the headlights syndrome that all the previous (except TR) guys displayed. IMO, they weren’t able to let loose and play for fear of Kelly’s quick hook (even Crist to a certain extent, his current play may be a cumulative effect of second guessing himself). Now he’s doing the same with Golson, only the team is winning now. It just seems, that as hard as Kelly pushed for Golson, that he saw the raw materials to work with and the 2 year returns at this point are suspect. Still, the team’s 4-0 and I’ll hold off all comments regarding Kelly’s coaching ability until I see what he does with Kiel and/or Zaire.

      • NotreDan - Oct 6, 2012 at 12:29 AM

        Keith I have to agree. You dove into this mess, and you’re here trying to clean it up. Either you said too much based on information from a confidential source, or you are just provocative for no good reason. I sure don’t want to believe the latter.

        When asked of this controversy in the late week Presser, Kelly’s hesitation said it all. Seems to me there is a lack of confidence in Golson. Can’t say I disagree, but, its not your place to leak it through passive language.

        You are in a position of trust, you have a higher standard. Either say it or don’t, you can’t do both.

      • irishbornraised - Oct 6, 2012 at 3:45 AM

        This stuff about how BK didn’t expect to win big this season and saw it as a lost season that could be used to develop a QB and is now second guessing because he thinks he could make something big happen is ridiculous. He knows that if he doesn’t do well things won’t end well..

  5. dnice024 - Oct 5, 2012 at 9:51 AM

    Can’t help but notice KA left a nice out for himself if Golson shines because it will, of course, come against “Miami’s mediocre defense.” Still hoping for credit on breaking that “locker-room divided” piece?

    …but I’ll ignore it since he found a way to insert “slump-buster” into the article… great timing with a Chicago game to rekindle some classic Mark Grace!

    As unimportant as this game looked before the season, it’s now another great opportunity to make a legit statement – for both the offense and defense – and take one more step toward Contender territory… GO IRISH!

    • chisports14 - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:06 AM

      Well Miami’s defense is rated in the 100′s… so I would actually consider it below mediocre

    • nudeman - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:21 AM

      BTW, Grace, after his 2nd DUI in less than 12 months was let go by the DBacks this week as a broadcaster.
      Brenly’s contract is up in Chicago, so could Gracie be making a return to the Wrig?

      Don’t get too excited. He was surprisingly mediocre in the booth here in AZ
      Loved him as a player; not so much as a broadcaster.
      Or driver.

      • irishbornraised - Oct 6, 2012 at 3:51 AM

        “Everyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot”
        Stop, the weight of your logic is crushing me

    • phillyj - Oct 5, 2012 at 12:08 PM

      I dunno Keith. I think most readers understand that we have a de facto 2 QB system in place, and that Tommy is the “safer” option going forward. Furthermore, I think most also understand that Tommy likely has some players on the team who would prefer to see him start.

      It’s just that I think you overstated your case in an attempt to get page views. You implied that there is significant dissention among the team on this issue, when I don’t think you have the evidence to back it up.

      In addition, it’s worth noting that Hansen’s question to BK was likely in part a result of all the questions that he got regarding YOUR reporting during his online chat Wednesday at the SBT site. And to then turn around and site internet “rumors” (that were legitimized largely by you alone) in a subsequent post is just flat out disingenuous.

      • nudeman - Oct 5, 2012 at 12:11 PM

        “It’s just that I think you overstated your case in an attempt to get page views.”

        Exactly. I don’t know if the motive was page views though. I think Keith let his personal preference for Rees affect him.

      • Keith Arnold - Oct 5, 2012 at 1:52 PM

        “It’s just that I think you overstated your case in an attempt to get page views.”

        This is 100% B.S.

        And this is as animated as I’ll ever get on this board, but get serious. I don’t get paid by the click, I don’t care about page views. If I did, I’d probably run this blog like the far more successful NBC blogs linked above, which I’m sure my employers would honestly prefer. That’s not how I choose to cover this team and never will be.

        Lastly: This isn’t a “board.” Don’t get me wrong, I’d actually like to have one, but this is the comments section of a blog that I write/run. That means it’s up to me to supply every opinion and article, and then you guys get to poke, prod and discuss.

        I have no preference for Tommy Rees at QB. I think I’ve been on the Golson bandwagon longer than anyone here. But the opinions here — that Rees can’t get better or play better, and that anybody who thinks differently (including his teammates and coaches… and me) is an idiot, is completely ridiculous.

      • nudeman - Oct 5, 2012 at 2:17 PM

        Keith,
        Hope that’s not directed at me, as I wrote that I did NOT think you wrote this for page views.

        But I DO think that over the course of well over a year now, you have demonstrated some sort of soft spot for Tommy Rees. It’s not THIS post; it’s not a COUPLE posts. Rather there have been six or seven times you’ve written stuff that no one else believes.

        IMO, that’s OK. You are entitled to your preferences just like everyone else. But don’t deny you have them in the face of lots of evidence to the contrary.

        Whoever made the observation that YOU were the source for much of the internet drama this week re: the QBs (resulting in Hansen’s question) is exactly right. I didn’t read ANYTHING remotely close to how you described the situation anywhere else. ND Nation, 4HL, Subway Domer.

        Maybe you’re right. You have your sources and maybe you’ve tapped into something no one else has picked up on. I choose to believe that on a 4-0 team that should be 5-0 in about 36 hours this isn’t the case. But you’re there; I’m not.

      • phillyj - Oct 5, 2012 at 3:03 PM

        Let me get this straight. We’re allowed to “poke, prod and discuss” but not to disagree with you?

        We’re not talking about vulgar language or ad hominem attacks here, Keith. Some people just disagree with your reporting on this topic, and have chosen to express it in the comments section of what is admittedly your blog.

        You wrote what you must have known was going to be an attention-grabbing piece. Now you’re upset that it’s garnered attention.

        Lighten up.

      • heisenbyrg - Oct 5, 2012 at 3:06 PM

        “But the opinions here — that Rees can’t get better or play better, and that anybody who thinks differently (including his teammates and coaches… and me) is an idiot, is completely ridiculous.”

        I completely agree with this. For some reason, everyone seems to think that Rees hit his ceiling as a freshman or sophomore, and the reasoning is that he does not have a high athletic ceiling. I do not understand this argument in the slightest. Quarterbacks typically vastly improve as upperclassmen because their decision making (i.e. the mental part of the game) vastly improves, not because they magically improved their athleticism.

        Was Brady Quinn as a junior a far superior athlete than Brady Quinn as a sophomore? No. His decision making improved, and, as a result, his quarterbacking improved (last time I’ll mention BQ in the same thought as TR).

      • runners00 - Oct 5, 2012 at 3:10 PM

        Keith is telling the story that some others on the team (and associated with the team) want the rest of us to hear: that Golson isn’t as strong as they thought he’d be at this stage and that Rees is still plenty capable of grabbing the starting QB job.

        Does anyone here, at this point in the season, think that Golson could bring us back from a 2-touchdown deficit to win the game? I like him. I do. He’s quick. He seems to take care of the ball, though it’s too early to really know this for sure. He’s pretty patient. But, come on. He’s hardly like the bigger and stronger Rees. Absolutely, Rees struggled with way too many interceptions last year. And he’s virtually immobile, no big deal in most instances but important given our often-undersized offensive line. Yet he brought us down the field on more than a few occasions last year (and this year).

        Golson’s gotta do that, too, to keep his starting job. That’s all Keith was pointing out.

      • irish4006 - Oct 5, 2012 at 4:29 PM

        heisenbyrg, I think you missed a point (a huge one) when you talked about BQ as an athlete as sophomore and junior. While it is likely true that his mental game improved, the baseline (the physical tools needed to play QB at a D-I school) was already there. He actually bulked up a bit in his junior and senior years.

        Now, if TR, all of a sudden, became a more physical QB with stronger legs to move around the pocket and bigger arm where he could actually throw the ball with some zip (not just toss it up for grabs); I will be very open to discussing the idea of TR improving as a QB in his 3rd year.

      • heisenbyrg - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:06 PM

        irish4006,

        Superior athleticism is NOT a prerequisite for improvement in the areas of decision-making or even accuracy. The notion that Tommy Rees cannot improve from years 1-2 to years 3-4 because he is not a great athlete is simply stupid.

        Listen, I was extremely upset when Rees came in against Purdue; I thought Golson earned the right to finish the game and I believe Golson has the potential to be an exceptional quarterback and is the best bet going forward. But the idea that last-year’s version of Tommy Rees is the finished product is naive. Nudeman often suggests that Keith has a blind spot concerning TR. I believe we fans have developed a blind spot about TR if even the notion of his potential improvement is dismissed on the basis of our perceptions of his athleticism.

      • irishbornraised - Oct 6, 2012 at 3:55 AM

        Heisenbyrg, the whole point we’ve made was that BQ had the physical skills and gained the mental skills, TR has the mental skills but not the physical skills. The mental part is what’s gotten him even a glance as a DI QB. BQ could learn a playbook, TR can’t learn muscles.

      • nudeman - Oct 6, 2012 at 10:58 AM

        heisenbyrg
        Fair point about the fans also having a blind spot for TR
        Here’s my reason I have so little confidence in his being able to improve:

        Last year he regressed with every game; then with 3 months to sit, think about it, reflect, he came out and was awful in the B&G game.

        He has Ron Powlus Syndrome. Just keeps getting worse with each game.

  6. bearcatirishfan - Oct 5, 2012 at 10:51 AM

    That is a great point emac,w especially since they said something about his shoulder clicking.

    • Keith Arnold - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:42 AM

      His shoulder has hurt since Navy. That’s not a real story or injury.

      • ndgoldandblue - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:23 PM

        His shoulder has been hurting since Navy? Damn it! Sorry. I don’t like to swear on these things. It’s just…a sore shoulder with our quarterback really isn’t something we need right now.

  7. bearcatirishfan - Oct 5, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    Dmac sorry autocorrect on iPad right!

  8. sullyp18 - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:17 AM

    Its time for a team leader or two to sit EG down and say they are behind and to just play his game. GO IRISH!!!!!

  9. seadomer - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:25 AM

    Here is how I set the bar

    24-17 … normal offense, “normal” defense
    38-17 … good offense, “normal” defense
    38 -10 … We are #7 in the country baby!! … deal with it !!

    • idratherbeinsouthbend - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:46 AM

      Here’s how i sit at the bar….

      Beer in hand while ND loses … stomach wrenching
      Beer in hand while ND wins … good
      Beer in one hand, Captain Morgan in the other, while Notre Dame wins big … great
      Eight Morgan’s down while I declare to the whole bar that Notre Dame will DEFINITELY win the Super Bowl this year … stomach pumping

      Here’s hoping for a GREAT game

      GO IRISH!!

      • seadomer - Oct 5, 2012 at 12:14 PM

        8 morgans … super bowl … I get it.

      • nudeman - Oct 5, 2012 at 2:18 PM

        All Guinness here. All the time.

  10. sinister23 - Oct 5, 2012 at 12:14 PM

    Talk is cheap! I have $1000 on Miami!!! I really dont think ND can cover the spread

    • andy44teg - Oct 5, 2012 at 2:05 PM

      So do you honestly think ND isn’t going to win or just not cover the spread??

      • nudeman - Oct 5, 2012 at 2:20 PM

        Andy
        He’s the ultimate troll.
        Better than that loadofwash guy; but not by much.

        ND 28
        Miami 17

    • idratherbeinsouthbend - Oct 5, 2012 at 2:56 PM

      was it really $1000, or just the deed to your trailer home?

      • irishbornraised - Oct 6, 2012 at 3:57 AM

        What’s the difference?

    • papadec - Oct 6, 2012 at 3:15 AM

      sin – where exactly does a Marine grunt get $1,000 to bet on a football game? Oh, wait a minute – you must be in supply.

  11. jerseyshorendfan1 - Oct 5, 2012 at 12:53 PM

    All this talk of rumors, locker room revolts, Golson injured, etc misses the point. If we can all listen to Kelly and put some trust in him, I think he’s got it figured out. He’s been more than clear, every step of the way, that the job is Golson’s and EG will continue to start and to develop as a young QB does. We have the added benefit of having TR in the wings if he’s needed. it’s the best we can do right now to get Golson some good game experience while having some veteran backup available if things get too crazy. Rees clearly has shown the ability to come in and close out games. We should look at the bright side of this arrangement and be thankful we have Rees to fall back on if necessary. Just ask Aaron Rodgers what happens if you get poked in the eye and an inexperienced backup QB has to come in: he trips over his O line’s feet, fumbles the handoff and puts the game in jeopardy with a 14 point swing. I am perfectly content to let BK start Golson, let out a little line, see how he does and if he starts to slip, reel him back in and throw Rees out there. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

    • oldestguard - Oct 5, 2012 at 1:37 PM

      Voice of reason, and from a jersey shore guy too…unbelievable !!

      God bless Tommie Rees – I hope he continues to be effective and keeps this a hot issue in the blogosphere.

      I just know I’d rather have him, than not.

  12. mentoneirish - Oct 5, 2012 at 1:10 PM

    Sinister,
    Care to put 2 large on it?

    • irishbornraised - Oct 6, 2012 at 3:58 AM

      Or more valuable, GTFO

  13. runners00 - Oct 5, 2012 at 1:48 PM

    I don’t care what anyone says — this is a lot more fun than watching a 1-3 team. Sure, we won three straight fairly close games (though, honestly, after the first quarter I thought we’d blow out State), but 4-0 is 4-0. It’s impressive.

    Now, we’ve been here before. I remember the Willingham drama. But this team is good because it’s so tough defensively. Miami will be a very good test in the sense that they are pretty good on offense. They average almost 475 yards/game, with their offense 15th in total passing. So, we’ll have a very good idea for how good our defense — particularly our secondary — is after this game. On defense, Miami is very suspect, giving up 226 rushing yards/game (112th) and 270 passing yards/game (91st). Again, we should have a good idea of how good we are when this game ends because if we cannot move the ball against Miami, we’ve got issues. . . .

    No predictions on score, but if we stay healthy, we’ll handily win this game as the Catholics v Convicts rivalry returns. Go Irish!

  14. sinister23 - Oct 5, 2012 at 2:13 PM

    …im not completely sure ND will win…but IM POSITIVE they wont cover the spread.

    Hey Keith Arnold…i looked you up and read some of your other work…you seem like the real deal and i respect your work.

    But 1 question Keith: I before E except after C….?

    • andy44teg - Oct 5, 2012 at 10:00 PM

      Obviously it’s K-E-I-T-H

      • heisenbyrg - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:07 PM

        Thanks for clearing that one up andy, but I think he was being a bit facetious.

      • andy44teg - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:45 PM

        So was I, Mr. White.

  15. fnc111 - Oct 5, 2012 at 2:46 PM

    I said in the summer 4=0 when it comes to the QB position. Come on Kelly find a QB!!!!!!!

  16. oldestguard - Oct 5, 2012 at 4:17 PM

    4=0=4/4 wins so far.

    I quess this could possibly have a bad ending, but like a trillion other possibilities, it hasn’t happened yet – so no sense complaining.

    What could easily happen though is a continuation of Golson / Rees and an eventual 11-2 or 10-3 year that leads into the Kiel / Zaire era and an NC or 2 over the next 5-6 years.

    Hmmmm….4=0=4/4}>11/13}>1=1=13/13=#1

    • irish4006 - Oct 5, 2012 at 4:44 PM

      Well… EG has the physical tools, let’s hope he finds the rhythm and get the mental side straight. Kiel/Zaire/Romney’s great grandson/2nd coming of JC can wait. Let’s see what our bird in hand can do before we start counting the ones in the bushes. Kelly is well known to get every bit out of his quarterbacks, let’s hope he is successful with EG this year.

  17. dudeacow - Oct 5, 2012 at 9:25 PM

    Thanks for the great post, Keith. I, for one, think the Rees is the best QB now. If I were BK, though, I would still start Golson because he will be much, much better at the end of the year.

  18. fitz79 - Oct 5, 2012 at 10:49 PM

    Saints 35 – Sinners 20. ND will, as the great Keith Jackson would put it, drag Miami behind the wood shed for a good old fashioned whuppin’!
    Manti for Heismen!
    Go Irish!

  19. Jennifer - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:41 PM

    Wow. Here I was, all stoked to get home and check out this blog for any last minute updates or new insights for tomorrow’s eagerly anticipated game. And as usual, Keith’s wrote a well-written, with just the right amount of “Inside the Irish” commentary and insight. .Instead I’m sloshing through too many Chiefs replying here who must have bought up all the testosterone they could find and started chipping in with little or no regard or respect for all of Keith’s work. Dudes! What’s happened here? For the last few days I’ve been reading Miami’s counterpart blog to Keith’s. They’re a bunch of morons, and I couldn’t wait to get back to (at least a ) shred of polite discourse. I’m done with saying my piece here, and want to end by saying Go Irish. Beat Miami! (Repeat after me…ND can and will beat Miami! amen.

    • papadec - Oct 6, 2012 at 3:22 AM

      Jen – AMEN!

  20. ndgoldandblue - Oct 5, 2012 at 11:43 PM

    All right. I’m just going to preface this by saying that this is completely off-topic. So, here goes. Can we stop all the BYU fear-mongering? Why is everyone so afraid of BYU? I didn’t get it before the beginning of the season, and I don’t get it now. Some of the posters on this boar-…er, wait a minute. Keith said that this isn’t a board. Okay, some of the posters on this “blog” have been venting their fears over BYU for a couple months now. Even nude, a celebrity in this comments section for years, lumped BYU in with Oklahoma and USC when discussing formidable opponents who would easily shut down Tommy Rees. Nude, I love ya, but don’t include BYU in the same sentence as Oklahoma and USC.

    Way too many people posted on this blog about BYU and their supposed…I don’t know, greatness. A lot of people talked about Riley whatshisnuts and how great of a quarterback he is. The guy isn’t even starting anymore. BYU isn’t very good this year, and I fully expect the Irish to win that game. Call it a trap game or whatever you want. The Irish should be favored and with good reason. Our defense is going to smother a BYU team that has gone up against defenses that couldn’t hold a candle to ours, and they either lost or barely got by. Oh, that’s right, they beat Hawaii convincingly. Well, that settles it. Color me impressed.

    Truthfully, I’m more worried about Miami than BYU and the football players should be too.

    • seadomer - Oct 6, 2012 at 1:07 AM

      Here is the not so simple answer,

      I caught the BYU vs Boise state and am watching them right now vs Utah state, they are playing like ND, stylistically speaking.
      This Boise state is not the Kellen Moore-led squad but BYU only gave 7 points.
      Also BYU allowed 10 ppg thru 5 games and if the current score hold (mid 4th)(BYU 6 – Utah state 3), technically its 53/6 which will be slightly under 9 ppg thru 6 games

      Plus they are probably a bowl bound team BUT whoever they play will not have the glam of ND. If I was a BYU player, my bowl game will be on OCT 20

    • papadec - Oct 6, 2012 at 3:24 AM

      ndg&b – I agree with you – BYU didn’t look very impressive tonight.

    • nudeman - Oct 6, 2012 at 11:04 AM

      Appreciate the “celebrity” shout out, but I never lumped in BYU as someone who would easily shut ND down. I have called them a trap game, but frankly I’m taking that back

      Saw them vs UT State last night
      Not “awful” but hardly fearsome. Although they were playing their 2nd string QB

  21. NotreDan - Oct 6, 2012 at 12:40 AM

    In all 12:38 AM clarity after a few pu
    nts of wisdom… GO IRISH!!!! God speed to our boys to defeat the pretenders from flamingo land

  22. 9irish - Oct 6, 2012 at 12:51 AM

    Calm down, people. We’re all on the same side here (well, most of us). I don’t want an old AP/UPI ticker tape machine with just the facts on it, opinion and the perspective/angle is why I waste my time on here.

    Go Irish

    • ndfaithful - Oct 6, 2012 at 10:02 AM

      Great stuff!!!!

      Giving me goosebumps over here…

      GO IRISH!!!

  23. papadec - Oct 6, 2012 at 3:30 AM

    9irish – oh yeah – oh yeah.

  24. yaketyyacc - Oct 6, 2012 at 6:58 AM

    as the analyst pointed NO team can win the national championship with defense alone, however good. and then predicted Miami over ND. and pointed out he too is 4-0 in his predictions.
    teams lose by one of three ways; offenseive loss, defensive loss or coaches loss. we have gotton to 4-0. so why the worry. all I am sayig is that we are not going to go 13-0 unless we develoop a fiercesome balanced offensive attack. And I feel, could be wrong, this lack is due to the playcalling.
    if the waterboy was the offensive coordinator, then I would say that the waterboy needs to call a better balanced game. but he is not. Coach Kelly is. Hey, I like the waterboy and I like Coach Kelly. What I don’t like is the playcalling,
    Posters, thanks for the constructive criticism. and to that analyst who sits to the right of Lou Holtz, you too, are entitled ot your wrong prediction.

    • ndfaithful - Oct 6, 2012 at 10:06 AM

      Good point. I mean the part about “could be wrong”.
      I for one think you are. As the boys get better, the points will come and they’ll run the good play calls better. As they get better, the play calling will evolve because the coaches know the team. Thank God we have a strong defense while they’re getting better.

      I could be wrong be wrong too. I’m glad I’m not though.

      • nudeman - Oct 6, 2012 at 11:06 AM

        ndfaithful
        “Good point. I mean the part about “could be wrong”.”

        LMAO
        Great line

  25. ndfaithful - Oct 6, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    After watching the Manti interview, I’m just really impressed. He sure seems like a great young man on top of being a great football player.

    After only hearing him talk and answer questions for 40 minutes, I would go to war with him.

    GO IRISH!!
    CRUSH Miami

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