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Pregame Six Pack: Staring down Stanford

Oct 12, 2012, 3:21 AM EDT

Manti Te'o Stanford

The Stanford Cardinal have quite a feather in their cap. Entering the season, they’re the only team in college football history to defeat Notre Dame and USC in three consecutive seasons. David Shaw’s squad has already extended their streak against the Trojans. They’ll look to do the same against the Irish, running their record winning streak against Notre Dame to four straight.

Ranked 17th in the country, there’s plenty to like about Stanford. Namely, a physical defense that’s beaten up teams at the line of scrimmage. After whipping Notre Dame up front the last two seasons, don’t think Irish head coach Brian Kelly isn’t excited to see how his team measures up this season. When asked Thursday afternoon whether he likes his team’s toughness, and their ability to get down and dirty in a game like this, Kelly was unequivocal.

“I do,” Kelly said. “I think we’ll be able to go in there and play the kind of game we want to play. We’ve exhibited the kind of signs that would lead me to believe that we can play that kind of football.”

We’ll be in South Bend for the game this weekend, where ESPN has already camped out with their College GameDay set, their first visit to Notre Dame since the 2005 Notre Dame-USC game. It’s just another datapoint that the Irish are well on their way back from the dead, dusting themselves off after plenty of dirt was kicked on top of them the past few years.

With a 3:30 p.m. ET kickoff set for NBC — and a special NFL Films’ produced behind the scenes look at the Irish called Onward Notre Dame: South Bend to Soldier Field — let’s empty out the folder with another pregame six pack. As usual, here are six tidbits, fun facts, leftovers, or miscellaneous musings to get you ready for Saturday’s game between the No. 7 Fighting Irish and the No. 17 Stanford Cardinal.

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The Irish have reason to be confident that the defense will win the battle at the line of scrimmage.

Notre Dame’s offensive line will need to play its very best football to establish a running game against the Cardinal. But there’s reason to believe that the Irish defensive front should control the line of scrimmage against the Cardinal’s rebuilt offensive line. Gone are All-Americans David DeCastro and Jonathan Martin, taken in the first and second round of the NFL Draft respectively.  The Cardinal have reshuffled the line, carrying over just two starters that played the same position last year, with center Sam Schwartzstein and right tackle Cameron Fleming back. But Stanford has kicked guard David Yankey outside from left guard to left tackle, and have two other veterans starting. The Cardinal also play some talented youngsters, many of whom were on the Irish recruiting radar. Notre Dame fans will get their first looks at Joshua Garnett, Kyle Murphy, and Andrus Peat. All three had early Irish offers and both Peat and Garnett gave the Irish an official visit.

The Cardinal have only given up five sacks this season, but they’ve struggled to kickstart the running game. After running for 210 yards a game at a 5.29 yards per carry clip, the Cardinal are down almost a yard a carry (4.42) while being ranked 74th in the country with 155 yards a game.

A year after getting pushed around up front, Brian Kelly was asked on his radio show what the difference would be between this defensive line and the group that got pushed around last year in Palo Alto.

“Personnel. We were playing EJ, SC, and Chase Hounshell. We were a little beat up,” Kelly said. “Kapron (Lewis-Moore) didn’t play. We’re a different front,and we’re physically stronger. We’re a better football team. So let’s see how that plays out Saturday because we’re going to play really well against an ouutstanding football team, but we’re better up front.”

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The Irish offensive line will need to improve upon their breakthrough performance against Miami with an even better game against Stanford’s front seven. 

Give credit to Notre Dame’s offensive line, who absolutely killed Miami’s will last weekend in the second half, running the ball through the Hurricanes by carrying the ball almost exclusively for the entire second half. But if Notre Dame wants to win the game this Saturday afternoon, they’ll need to step their game up against a Stanford front that’s absolutely dominated Notre Dame’s offensive line.

How bad has it been? Consider that Brian Kelly’s Irish haven’t been able to average even two yards a carry. In 2010, Jim Harbaugh’s defense stuffed the Irish running game, holding the Irish to just 44 yards on 23 carries, with Jonas Gray’s 11-yard run the lone gain over 10-yards. Dayne Crist was kept in check while the Cardinal routinely dropped seven and eight men in coverage. Last year, the Cardinal (and the horrific turf inside Stanford Stadium), held the Irish to just 57 yards on 31 carries, with the long being a 17-yard scramble by Andrew Hendrix.

Stanford’s 3-4 defense, a group built with big, physical players in a similar mold of the Irish, have kept up the same lofty performance as last season, holding opponents to just 77 yards a game and a measly 2.66 yards per carry. With young quarterback Everett Golson still learning on the job, CSNChicago’s JJ Stankevitz writes about the job the Irish offensive line does to help their young quarterback make the correct reads.

“It takes a lot off my plate, to be honest,” Golson said on Saturday. “Going back to seeing those zones and stuff like that, I guess it feels good to me to know that if I didn’t see it, they got my back.”

Every offensive line acts as a safety net for its quarterback. But having a senior-laden offensive line for a greenhorn quarterback takes on added importance, even if Golson’s learning quickly.

“Communicating, anything we can give him is going to help him and it’s going to help us and it’s going to help the whole offense,” tackle Christian Lombard said. “(Offensive line coach Harry Hiestand) always says see a little, see a lot, so if you see something say something and it’s going to trickle down to everyone.

“Our combination blocks, calling out linebackers when we got an overloaded box so he can check out of things — there’s tons of different things, I could go on and on, but he’s picking up really fast,” center Braxston Cave added. “And it’s not even us as much now having to tell him anything, and he’s making the calls on his own.”

The Irish coaching staff struggled with adjustments when the Cardinal revealed a few wrinkles that they hadn’t shown on tape. With two head-to-head match-ups and five games of tape from this season, Stanford won’t be able to reveal any completely unknown wrinkles, but that doesn’t mean the Irish won’t try to be ready for them.

“There will always be that unexpected look that you get and we’ll make those adjustments and we’ve been able to communicate them very well on the sideline,” Kelly said. “We feel like we’re better at what we’re doing at this point and that we can continue to do that, regardless of what the look is. That’s just moving forward as an offense.”

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Theo Riddick is back and healthy for the Irish running backs. But it’s time to see a redistribution of carries at the position. 

Through five games, Theo Riddick is carrying the load running the ball, with almost twice as many touches as Cierre Wood and over half of the carries of the three main running backs. Sure, these numbers are skewed — Wood sat the season’s first two games — but with the running back position solidified, it’s time to take a hard look at how the carries get distributed moving forward.

Riddick has done everything this coaching staff has asked of him, moving to wide receiver when there was little depth at the slot position, and then back to tailback for his final season. And while his versatility makes him an important cog in the Notre Dame offense, the stats are starting to show him the least effective of the team’s three running backs.

Here’s a quick breakdown of the Irish’s running backs through five games.

Notre Dame Running Backs:
Theo Riddick: 68 carries for 263 yards. 3.9 Avg. 3 TD. Long Run: 17
Cierre Wood: 35 carries for 213 yards. 6.1 Avg. 2 TD. Long Run: 37
George Atkinson: 29 carries for 269 yards. 9.3 Avg. 3 TD. Long Run: 56
Cam McDaniel: 20 carries for 114 yards. 5.7 Avg. 1 TD. Long Run: 19

While Riddick didn’t miss a rep this week as he recovered from a minor elbow injury, Kelly talked about the challenge of getting the ball to his healthy stable of running backs.

“We’ve got three guys that we’re trying to get that balance,” Kelly said. “We struck it a little better last week, but it’s something that we’re constantly keeping an eye on and keeping those guys fresh and attacking defenses with three really good runners. We all know Cam (McDaniel) is a very good running back, but we just don’t have enough footballs for them.”

It’s tough to ignore the statistical differences that are growing by the week, especially considering the only game Riddick averaged more than five yards a carry in was against Navy, when he ran for 107 yards on 19 carries. (In the same game, Atkinson ran for 99 yards on just nine touches.)

If the Irish are going to get more production from the position, they’ll likely need to recalibrate the touches.

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The Irish defense needs to make things miserable on quarterback Josh Nunes. 

Before Josh Nunes put together a sterling performance against Arizona last weekend, there wasn’t much positive to say about the man who took over for Andrew Luck. Nunes, a 6-foot-4, 225-pound junior from Upland, California, starting for the first time after backing up the NFL Draft’s top pick, played mediocre football through the season’s first four games, revealing a weak spot for the Cardinal offense.

Against San Jose State, Nunes completed 16 of 26 passes for just 125 yards and one touchdown. He was a little bit more prolific against Duke, completing 16 of 30 for 275 and three touchdowns with one interception. He struggled against USC while still leading the Cardinal to victory, completing less than half his 32 throws for 215 yards and two touchdowns and two interceptions. And in the Cardinal’s loss to Washington, Nunes was harassed constantly, completing just 18 of 37 throws for 170 yards and one interception.

There isn’t a bad defense in that group, with San Jose State leading that group statistically in total defense at 18th and Duke rounding it out at 52nd. But Nunes is in for his biggest challenge of the year against the Irish defense.

The Irish rank among the top-20 defenses in nine different categories: scoring defense, red zone defense, pass efficiency defense, total defense, first down defense, interceptions, turnovers forced, rush defense and sacks. After Nunes struggled away from home when the Huskies sprung the upset on Stanford, expect Notre Dame to try and make life miserable for the first-time starter.

“This game will be our biggest challenge. Notre Dame is big and physical,” Stanford coach David Shaw said. “When their linebackers blitz, they hit it hard. This will be a big test for us. What helps our pass protection is our running game. Having play-action helps slow down the pass rush.”

With Ty Montgomery, one of the team’s best receivers, out for the game on Saturday, Nunes is short one valuable weapon as he tries to put together a solid road performance. If he does, the Cardinal have a chance. If he doesn’t? It’ll be a long day for the Stanford offense.

***

The spotlight will once again be on Everett Golson. Can he play better at home this time around? 

A week after playing well enough to hush any brewing quarterback controversy, Everett Golson will face the biggest test of his young career. Stanford’s defense — a group that’s confused Notre Dame quarterbacks for the past two seasons — will now take aim at the least experienced member of the Irish offense as Golson tries to lead the Irish to victory while still learning on the job.

Whether it was Dayne Crist, Tommy Rees, or Andrew Hendrix, Stanford’s defense has confused Notre Dame quarterbacks for the past two seasons. They’ve done everything from dropping eight into coverage to exotic blitz packages. Golson will need to confidently pilot the Irish offense if Notre Dame wants to exit the weekend undefeated.

Using Golson in the running game last week was the first part of making the game easier for the young starting quarterback. Now it’s up to the sophomore to continue to grow at the position, while also understanding his role as the facilitator of an offense that’ll help the team win just by not making crucial mistakes.

“We’re in the process with Everett that every day we’re building trust,” Kelly said. “We want somebody who is smiling and having fun and enjoying it, but also disciplined and getting with us in the right place and make the right choices. I guess the easiest way is we’re working hard towards meeting in the middle. That’s getting there. We’re getting there.”

Golson might have earned some confidence from the coaching staff running the two-minute drill at the end of the first half against Miami. While the drive didn’t net any points after Kyle Brindza’s field goal attempt missed wide right, Golson completed four straight passes for 48 yards as he led the Irish into field goal range.

“It was very important and we were hoping to get that opportunity,” Kelly said of Golson’s two-minute drill. “We thought he managed it very well, maybe too aggressively. We didn’t want the ball thrown to the wild field on that last throw where there was one second left on the clock, maybe if we were at a different stadium that one second is not there.  He was aggressive, but I thought he made strides in being comfortable out there and really doing the right things necessary to be effective.”

You could make the argument that Notre Dame didn’t need to break Golson’s running abilities out last week to beat Miami. But the ability to show the ability to both run the ball and move the Irish offense at a brisk pace should give Stanford defensive coordinator Derek Mason a few extra things to prepare for.

***

With inclement weather on its way to South Bend, this game could be an old-school, heavy-weight title bout.

The weather forecast looks rather ominous for South Bend Saturday afternoon. With thunderstorms possible and rain likely, this might turn into a rough and tumble brawl, something Brian Kelly wouldn’t half mind.

“The theme all week has been we’re going to be in for a physical, hard-nosed, four quarters of one of those good old-fashioned backyard brawls,” Kelly said Thursday evening. “It’s going to be that kind of game. We got our guys thinking about that on Monday and it kept building through the week. That’s been the theme this week for our football team.”

That attitude wasn’t because of the long-term weather forecast, but rather because of the challenges Stanford presents. And for the first time in his time at Notre Dame, this is the exact type of battle the Irish are built to play in and win.

“It’s who we want to be. It’s how we want to play the game,” Kelly said. “We’ve tried to exert that physical presence, both on the offensive line and the defensive line. It’s who we’re shaping up to be. So for us to go into a boxing match… I want to go in there and slug away. That’s the demeanor we want our football team to take shape.”

To win on Saturday, the Irish will need to be solid in all three phases of the football game. They’ll need to establish a run game after failing to do so for two years against Stanford. They’ll need to get big-chunk plays in the pass game with Everett Golson, while protecting the football at all costs. The defense will need to relentlessly pursue Josh Nunes, all while trying to shut down running back Stepfan Taylor and keeping jumbo-sized tight ends Zach Ertz and Levine Toilolo in check. Special teams will also need consistency. Kyle Brindza needs to get back on track, while Ben Turk needs to finally find some consistency.

Another Saturday, another huge opportunity for Notre Dame. And with the national spotlight on South Bend, it’s time for the Irish to prove these first five games haven’t been a fluke.

  1. yaketyyacc - Oct 12, 2012 at 4:41 AM

    Keith, you hit the nails on the head, and the Notre Dame team will b the hammer to drive Stanford into the turf. They will be tough, we will be tougher. Their defeat will be the message to their cousins,USC: THE IRISH ARE COMING! Oh yes, not before we meet each of five teams and one by one, make our case stronger and stronger: THE IRISH ARE COMING!

    • 808raiderinparadise - Oct 12, 2012 at 4:10 PM

      This is a year where ND is breaking old trends/habits in games.

      This game in no different as they will be the smash mouth team, the physical, stronger, faster, better coached.

      San Jose State should have beat them, do I need to repeat that?
      @ND college gameday ….

      ND 24 Stanford 9

  2. norcalirish - Oct 12, 2012 at 5:11 AM

    Man, I’m nervous for this game….and not just because I drive past Stanford twice a day.

    That being said, get the ball into our playmakers hands in space—use the weather and the natural turf to our advantage and make the slower defenders miss.

    And when in doubt, point our shiny helmets at stanford and blind them.

  3. footballleprechaun - Oct 12, 2012 at 5:13 AM

    Kudos to the coaching staff suggesting and instilling the physical smashmouth readiness for this payback/revenge azz whipping in store for the Cardinal this Sat. afternoon. This year’s edition announces our talented guys a cut above the tree. WOW what a level of pride and excitement we can all share Saturday evening!!!!!! Probably wouldn’t hurt to go ahead and knock the QB out-of-game (concussed) from a disguised blitz pkg. That should infuse fear and respect to the anticipants on the remainder of the slate. Time now for this offensive juggernaut to flex its muscle. The weapons in place…… so lets showcase the reason Notre Dame chose their respective talents. So someone call the ER and see if its crowded…….. we wouldn’t want anyone with an S on their helmet to wait too long!!!!! GO IRISH!!!!! 6 and 0 babeeeeeee!!!

    • idratherbeinsouthbend - Oct 12, 2012 at 3:29 PM

      Eat fewer lead based paint chips

    • tjak2 - Oct 12, 2012 at 10:22 PM

      Yeah footballlep is a tad aggressive, but I did not feel 38 dislikes were in order….chop the trees.

  4. ndvet - Oct 12, 2012 at 9:01 AM

    Agree that Riddick hasn’t been great on the ground but his numbers on the swing passes are pretty good as well and not sure that Wood or GAIII have the same ability catching balls in the flats. Almost 8 yards a catch is a pretty good average on a high completion % play. Having him out there as a threat in the flat opens some passing lanes as well.

    RECEIVING No. Yards Avg TD Long Avg/G
    RIDDICK, Theo 17 132 7.8 0 17 26.4

    • bernhtp - Oct 12, 2012 at 11:32 AM

      Agreed. They should measure all-purpose yards from the RB position – hand-offs, passes, pitches, reverses, etc. – against all attempts at the same as the relevant metric. Riddick benefits from this measure.

  5. 4horsemenrideagain - Oct 12, 2012 at 9:13 AM

    “A week after playing well enough to hush any brewing quarterback controversy…”

    It’s a funny thing that I don’t remember hearing anything about a brewing quarterback controversy, except for in one of KA’s previous articles on this site. I’m not saying this is the tail wagging the dog here, but unless there actually IS a controversy, why play the speculation game about what some guys in the locker room might be saying?

    All the same, another nice job by KA here.

    This one’s not going to be as close as many think;

    ND 34
    Tree 10

    • joeschu - Oct 12, 2012 at 9:38 AM

      HAHAHAHA…. As I read that line, I was thinking, “QB controversy at the Rees home and in KA’s mind.” Perhaps a “Keith <3 Tommy" GameDay sign is in order.

      I really hope the weather holds out so we can really showcase the beauty of campus on Game Day.

      Keith – we tease because we love. :D

  6. adpatr - Oct 12, 2012 at 10:14 AM

    Anyone know if we’ll be able to watch the documentary online?

    • nddude - Oct 14, 2012 at 12:39 PM

      I’m in Fort Wayne & our NBC Sports station is rebroadcasting on Monday at 11p

  7. seamus0317 - Oct 12, 2012 at 10:25 AM

    We need to continue to get better each play! Manti raised his game to a whole new level this year, it’s time for the rest of the team to raise the bar. I’m cautiously optimistic but haven’t been this excited in years!

  8. dudeacow - Oct 12, 2012 at 10:59 AM

    Stanford is the only team to beat both USC and ND in three consecutive years because no one else’s schedule falls that way.
    By the way, Stanford commit ILB Isaac Savaiinaea and USC commits CB Chris Hawkins and S Max Redfield will be taking official visits to the game. All three are 4stars and in the top 10 at their position, with Isaac and Redfield in the top 5.

  9. rdmirsh - Oct 12, 2012 at 11:42 AM

    Interesting stat Stanford being the only team to beat ND and SC in three consecutive years. makes me wonder, how many teams play ND and SC in 3 consecutive years……………..Ummmmmm, Stanford and Ummmmmmm……….Nobody! Another meaningless but interesting piece of filler.

  10. nudeman - Oct 12, 2012 at 11:48 AM

    1. Too much is being made of the beat down the ND OL delivered to Miami who had a known group of clowns on D. Yes, ND still had to deliver and did. But I am not buying that they’ve turned a corner or anything like that. Still a work in progress. Just keep going forward, baby.

    2. I’m hearing predictions of scores of 9-7, 10-6, even 3-2. Come on. ND will score north of 20.

    3. Cam-mania is about to come to a close. For now, anyway. Back to being the #4 RB, son.

    4. What the hell ever happened to Daniel Smith? Too distracted by Skyler? It’s not like he’s got Jerry Rice, Lance Alworth and Fred Biletnikoff in front of him. I guess he just ain’t cuttin’ the mustard, as we used to say in Da Nang.

    5. Anybody know when Spring practice starts? Or when they’ll be selling those practice jerseys in the bookstore?

    6. Dorsett just dropped another pass.

    7. Woke up this a.m., flipped on Mike & Mike on tv and they were interviewing Charlie Weis on the set at ND.
    WTF? NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
    I thought “That guy has immense nerve showing up back there this week”. Maybe he’s there to offer some schematic help. Or just hang and bitch about BK with Dayne and some of the other 5th year seniors.

    8. Then I realized it was a clip from 2006. EXHALE. Rock Chalk Jayhawk.

    9. So in his honor I had a 6 pack of chocolate old fashioned donuts and a diet coke. Gotta’ keep the sugar load down.

    10. ND 23 SU 16

    • jimbasil - Oct 12, 2012 at 1:26 PM

      I’m hating myself for agreeing with you on your posts of late. Could you please stop doing whateveritis you’re doing.

      Thanks in advance

      • nudeman - Oct 12, 2012 at 8:07 PM

        I’m sure I’ll go off the rails sometime again soon
        Hang in there

    • seadomer - Oct 12, 2012 at 1:51 PM

      Nude,

      Point 10. How come ND 23, missed PAT? …. I’m going to raise you to 31

      BUT …. the tree 16 … I really want the D to shine, I do concede a PASSing TD out of respect and one FG, they could have another FG but becos they are behind will keep trying for the TD and fail so Stanford 10

      Final ND 31 – 10

      • nudeman - Oct 12, 2012 at 8:06 PM

        23 because I’m thinking ND scores 2TDs and kicks 3 FGs

    • bb90grad - Oct 12, 2012 at 1:58 PM

      Nice timing on Number 5. I’ve thought about dropping it a few times but it never felt right…

      Other than the obligatory “Zack Martin elbowed a SMC chick for the last sip of altar wine at Sunday night dorm mass” comment, the list is quite comprehensive.

  11. midwestirishfan - Oct 12, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    “[T]hey’re the only team in college football history to defeat Notre Dame and USC in three consecutive seasons.” Has any team in college football history other than Stanford played Notre Dame and USC in three consecutive seasons?

    • midwestirishfan - Oct 12, 2012 at 12:58 PM

      Boy I guess I should have read the previous comments first! My bad!

  12. midwestirishfan - Oct 12, 2012 at 12:07 PM

    Assuming no more than +2 turnover differential, by middle of fourth quarter score will be:

    ND 28, SU 14.

    Stone.

    Keep up the good work Keith!

  13. mentoneirish - Oct 12, 2012 at 12:25 PM

    Who has the advantage on a wet, sloppy field? Offense or Defense?

    • idratherbeinsouthbend - Oct 12, 2012 at 3:37 PM

      typically, people say that the offense has the advantage on a wet field because they know where they’re going….but the truth is, the only tangible advantage will go to whoever can run the ball more effectively.

      • Robert the Bob - Oct 12, 2012 at 5:25 PM

        and that’s exactly where Cam comes in. North-south runner who can follow his blockers. He’s going to get 100 yards.

      • heisenbyrg - Oct 12, 2012 at 6:55 PM

        Since it would be a nice accomplishment for the team to rush for 100 yards, I’m fairly sure the #4 running back isn’t going to rush for 100.

        Cam’s a nice player, but the euphoria for the #4 back (who would be #5 if Carlisle didn’t redshirt) is getting a bit silly.

  14. jimbasil - Oct 12, 2012 at 1:24 PM

    If ND is in for a sluggo match, I’m hoping when Golson does run with it he tucks that ball away “high and tight”. I’m looking for Cam McDaniel to do some damage along with Cierre and GAIII.

  15. fitz79 - Oct 12, 2012 at 2:46 PM

    Defensively speaking (as I think the defense is still the strength of this team) I see Manti having a Monster game! and getting his hat tossed back into the Heisman ring. The front 7 will dominate. The Irish offense simply needs to keep on doing what it has all year. Putting enough points on the board to win. I think they will do this with ease for the next 2 weeks. Imagine a 7-0 Irish squad taking a trip down to play Oklahoma. Wow! My confidence in Golson is only growing, as he looked really sharp last week.

    This one’s not even gonna be close.

    ND 23- Stanford 6.

    Come on Irish, time to trim them trees!

  16. natesullivan24 - Oct 12, 2012 at 5:53 PM

    Notre Dame really has no reason to worry. Stepfan Taylor and the Stanford run game is overrated. Josh Nunes is awful, especially on the road. This could be a long afternoon for the Cardinal. If Notre Dame can score a couple touchdowns, this one will be over. Look at my full betting preview for this weekends big games here: http://allducksallday.com/?p=192

  17. irishdodger - Oct 12, 2012 at 6:31 PM

    I still don’t trust our OL. ND loses a heartbreaker IMO.

    • NotreDan - Oct 12, 2012 at 8:26 PM

      It is a weak point for us, nut worry not grasshopper. ND will expose the cardinals.

      • NotreDan - Oct 12, 2012 at 8:28 PM

        Uhh… I said nut. I meant vulva.

      • nudeman - Oct 12, 2012 at 9:41 PM

        Much better

  18. dudeacow - Oct 12, 2012 at 8:13 PM

    I wish I could say ND scores more, but I can’t.

    ND 10-6

  19. cpfirish - Oct 12, 2012 at 8:34 PM

    Would be nice to see EG with 300 yards in the Air this game and also a ND victory.

    Go Irish!

    • ndmsu2006 - Oct 12, 2012 at 10:34 PM

      ND will beat Stanford. Catholics vs. Anti-Catholics. No nay never no more.

  20. jerseyshorendfan1 - Oct 12, 2012 at 10:32 PM

    Agree with fitz79 above that Manti will have a monster game. His parents are in from Hawaii and his play will be his tribute to them. I wouldn’t want to be that Stephan what’s his name, he’s gonna get creamed. And look out, Tuitt wants to set a sack record this year so I wouldn’t want to be Nunes either. ND 34-20.

  21. 9irish - Oct 12, 2012 at 10:51 PM

  22. frankb51 - Oct 12, 2012 at 11:19 PM

    maybe this week devonte neal can get a touch? how about on a kick-off, if nothing else. i think you will all be pleasantly suprised!

  23. turkisland - Oct 13, 2012 at 2:17 AM

    Your critque of our punter Ben Turk is that “he needs to finally find some consistency ???
    What about the week he was voted “Special Teams Player of The Week” by the “INDEPENDANT” ? That dosn’t count ?
    Or how about all the times he has to athletically just get the ball – off , because of the poor blocking or poor snap ? Have you not seen the picture of Ben Turk with his leg fully extended in the air and his “head-down” (fully concentrating on the ball), so it’s not “blocked” with 3 Mich. St. players hitting him all at once !???
    Go to any Michigan State site and they list that as a key to their loss that they couldn’t get to the ball and “ruffed” Turk instead , thus keeping a “critical” drive alive for the Irish !
    How about this Keith…Ben Turk is yet to have a punt “blocked” , EVER , in the 4 years he’s been here !!!!
    Keith , did you also know Ben Turk has NEVER had a punt returned for a “touchdown” in the 4 years he’s been Punting here ???? Yes , there have been some inconsistencies here and there , but Turk has never “lost” a game for us unlike his predecessor, ” Maust ” ! Remember him ? He was so bad ( 2009 ) , they finally sat the Senior down mid-season and called on Turk to take over as a “Freshman” !
    And although Turk’s average is just a little over 40 ( for 4 years of service here at Notre Dame ), there have been so many other things that Ben Turk has done to help this team . Coach Kelly himself has awarded Turk “gameballs” after special performances .
    How about getting your “personal feelings” out of the way (you remind me of that self-opinionated jerk , “Rush Limbaugh”), and phrase it… “and we need Ben Turk to have one of his patented good-games so we win the field-position battle” ! You have NOT reported fairly , or even “accurately” on Turk in the 4 years he’s been here. Now that’s “consistency” ( bad ) !!!
    P.S. I’ll talk to you more about it when i get to South Bend . Big turk is coming ! Tell your buddy Dan (schofield), the guy that pushed him off his perch at the Champs Sports Bowl says hi ! Go Irish !!!

    • ndfaithful - Oct 13, 2012 at 9:53 AM

      Ok, Turkisland, I’m going to take the bait…

      For starters, I should go on record to say that Ben Turk appears to be a fine young man from the little I know of him. He has also accomplished a lot as a punter to win the starting position at Notre Dame.

      With that being said, does your Turkisland nickname mean that you live on an island of Ben Turk worshippers? Are you a ‘community’ that we’ll watch on the news with the ATF storming in some day? Or are you a Ben Turk family member perhaps?

      Ben seems like a good punter. Not great by comparison, not bad. Let me comment on a few of your sillier comments:

      1. Being the voted “Special Teams Player of The Week” does not speak to consistency. Stringing together 12-15 punts without a shank would count. Heck – just stabilizing at 40 yards CONSISTENTLY is probably more like what KA would appreciate.

      2. Getting roughed by MSU doesn’t qualify as consistency either. However, he had a good game at MSU.

      3. Your one point seems to be that he can’t be consistent because of poor blocking and bad snaps. Then you say he’s never had one blocked as if that’s a push towards consistency. I think most people that have watched football would agree that good line play has a lot more to do with blocks than anything the punter can screw up. It’s not like the punter is back there doing calculus before he, um, punts it. Not getting blocks does not equal consistency for a punter.

      4. Not having a punt returend doesn’t exactly bolster your case either. It’s really hard for the return man to field a punt in the midst of the ND players ON THE SIDELINE after Turk puts the frequent 23 yard shank into the bench.

      5. Pointing out how bad the predecessor was doesn’t make you consistent either.

      6. Was that a personal threat to K.A. about coming to South Bend? God help you. You may have real issues.

      Ben has played great in a lot of games. He has demonstrated exceptional potential, skill, and talent. Every indication is that he has been an excellent team member and deserves the start over and over again.

      But K.A. doesn’t seem to be on any campaign to discredit him from what I can see. I think he’s just pointing out the importance of field position and punting today. I hope Ben is a big part of that. We’ll all celebrate it if he is.

      I’m glad I won’t be sitting on a perch in South Bend for you this weekend.

      Now I’ll punt the ball to you…

      • 9irish - Oct 13, 2012 at 11:10 AM

        Hmmmm….I found that a little askew myself. I really haven’t noticed much punter hatred. He does alright.

  24. irish2011 - Oct 13, 2012 at 5:47 PM

    Golsen can’t read the field!! All the athletic ability n the world but can’t see the field! Pick your poison Rees or Golsen…

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