Oct 24, 2012, 4:09 PM EDT
Brian Kelly was fulfilling a few media obligations before turning his focus onto the big match-up with Oklahoma this weekend. Part of that media tour included a few minutes in the “Herd,” joining ESPN’s Colin Cowherd to discuss the state of the Irish football program, and go one-on-one with a pretty polarizing radio personality that hasn’t had the nicest things to say about the Notre Dame program the past few years.
If you waste a lot of time getting worked up over Cowherd’s antics or opinions, you’re largely barking at the moon. That is what the man does. He’s quick witted, opinionated, and dictates the tone and discussion on his show by making a statement, defending it with a few persuasive points, then usually moves on before too many people can poke holes in his theories.
Amateur critical radio analysis aside, Cowherd does spend quite a bit of time talking about college football, a semi-rarity on the national scene. And while his friendship with Lane Kiffin and affinity for Manhattan Beach (you can’t blame him for half of this) largely have Irish fans believing it colors his opinion, Cowherd has spent the last week or so talking about how overrated the Irish are right now (while calling USC — a team that lost to Stanford — a better team.)
You can listen to the entire exchange here, but it’s actually an interesting discussion on the state of Notre Dame football, the problems that plague the offense, and how Kelly goes about the job rebuilding the football program while trying to win football games now. If you don’t have nine minutes to listen, here’s a rough transcription of the conversation:
Cowherd: I can’t figure out offensively what you’re doing. What are you offensively, coach?
Brian Kelly: We’re trying to find ourselves. We’re young on the outside with inexperienced wide receivers. We’ve got a tight end that we’re trying to get the football to and we’ve got three outstanding running backs. When you’re moving two quarterbacks in and out of the game, it’s really hard to have a set identity. We’re just trying to find ways to put enough points on the board, rely on a great defense, neutralize things in the special teams and win football games. Until we get ourselves in a situation where our quarterback is ready to start and finish a game, it’s just the way we’re going to have to put it together.
Cowherd: Come on, coach. You’re half way through the season. Figure out your offensive identity. Pick a quarterback. Can’t I say that?
BK: Again, I’d say that we’ve run the football extremely well against good defenses. I think that’s really where we’re going to manage the football game. My background is that I like to spread it, run up-tempo, and throw the football. We’re not ready to do that, but at Notre Dame, you can’t not be ready to win. You’ve got to win each and every week. So we’re going to eke out a way to move the football and put enough points on the board. And when we’re ready to move to that next level, it’ll be when our quarterback is.
Cowherd: Seventeen points, 20, 13, 20, 20. In four of your six games, you’re scoring about that. You guys get a sense going into games, you’ve gotta put points on the board. What do you think you’ve got to put on the board this weekend to go to Oklahoma and win realistically?
BK: Again, it depends on how we play the game. For example, BYU averaged 98 plays a game the weekend before. We got them to 60, we took 38 plays away from them. So, we’re going to try and help our defense the best we can to keep the points down on that end and then obviously, if they’re an offense that’s putting points on the board, we’re going to have to do some things offensively in spreading the field and throwing the football around. So it’s really predicated on how we’re playing defense, as to how we are playing offensively.
Cowherd: College football is not entirely fair… until we get a playoff. Scheduling matters a lot. What if I said, ‘Coach, a lot of Big Ten teams. The Big Ten is not very good.” Who have you beaten? Is that a fair criticism?
BK: Going into the season, I can only look at our schedule and talk about the teams. We went to Michigan State when they were 10th in the country and beat a team at that time that was top ranked. We had to beat Michigan. I think Stanford is a darn good football team. And we’ve got to play that kind of schedule each and every week. Our opener was in Ireland. Then we went Purdue, Michigan, Michigan State. It’s a tough schedule that requires your guys to be on each and every week and they’ve been on seven straight weeks and let’s see if we can get it to eight.
Cowherd: What do you make of the talk that Notre Dame is relevant. (He mentions Rick Reilly.) Whether or not they’re great is a different story. Do you listen? Your players hear stuff. What do you make of it?
BK: I really think that our kids are above the noise. They hear it. They watch ESPN. They listen to the talk shows. But the way we’ve got this focused is, look, we’re trying to be a consistent program. We want to be a part of the discussion not just one year, we want to do it each and every year. And as we do that, and build consistency, look at Oklahoma. They’ve been there every single year. That’s the level that we need to get this football program. Not just one year, where I get to go on your show. So our players understand it’s about consistency, not just about one spike. I didn’t come to Notre Dame because we wanted to have one great year it’s about a consistency… We’re not a great team, but I’ll tell you what, we’re mentally and physically tough and we’ll go and play you anywhere and any time. All I have to do to our kids is let them know is that they’re building a program.
C: You just said, you’re not a great team. That’s all that I said.
BK: I would be the first to tell you that we’re not a great team. But we’re a football team that’s getting better each and every week. Once we firmly have experience and an identity on offense, and keep building our defensive depth and special teams, we’ve got a chance to be a really good football team. That’s the process we’re in right now.
Cowherd expounds on a theory about Oregon’s face-paced offense and how he’d stop them. Kelly politely listens, largely agrees, and they move on.
C: This wasn’t nearly as contentious as I was hoping for.
BK: I’ll get in an argument if you want. (Laughter) We’re trying to build this thing so we can have this conversation in three or four years and we can talk about whether we’re great or not.
Next up, Desmond Howard. (Just kidding.)
May 28, 2015, 2:00 PM EDT
On Signing Day, nobody wants to talk about the kicker. But come September, Notre Dame’s most important true freshman won’t be a five-star tight end or blue-chip cornerback, but rather kicker Justin Yoon.
May 28, 2015, 1:24 PM EDT
As he has from the beginning of this odyssey, Fox Sports’ Bruce Feldman has been out front on the Everett Golson transfer news. Releasing Golson’s original statement and getting the first comments out of the former Notre Dame quarterback, Feldman is back at it, talking with Golson about the thought process that led him to pick Florida State.
May 27, 2015, 1:03 PM EDT
Everett Golson left Notre Dame for Florida State. Degree in hand, free agency well earned. But for some who thought Golson left South Bend because he wanted nothing to do with a quarterback competition that Malik Zaire seemed to embrace, the fifth-year quarterback’s arrival in Tallahassee won’t mark the end of a position battle.
May 26, 2015, 5:29 PM EDT
Matt Hegarty is transferring to Oregon. While the news wasn’t as well chronicled as the departure of his Notre Dame batterymate Everett Golson’s was to Florida State, Hegarty’s move to the Ducks puts another starter from the 2014 Irish offense onto a team that played in last year’s College Football Playoff.
May 26, 2015, 1:23 PM EDT
As Notre Dame’s finishes up a May spent on the road visiting recruits, one of the keys to a successful 2016 recruiting campaign is to restock the safety position. While graduate transfer Avery Sebastian comes onto campus providing immediate experience, the position is one of the lone worrisome spots on the fully-stocked Irish roster.
May 22, 2015, 1:36 PM EDT
Just like spring marks the end of winter, it also begins another unofficial season on the gridiron. The emergence of spring stars. These breakout stars sometimes burnout before fall rolls around, but it doesn’t make their emergence any less interesting.
May 20, 2015, 2:51 PM EDT
Monday, Notre Dame announced that 16 student-athletes would be spending three weeks in South Africa, earning credits in a new study abroad program examining the cultural, historical and social effects racism has had on South Africa. Five more will be going to Greece, learning about archaeological sites and museums in Ancient Corinth.
May 20, 2015, 1:17 PM EDT
If you were looking for anything official out of Notre Dame after Everett Golson announced his intention to play next season at Florida State, think again. But yesterday, Brian Kelly was the head speaker at the ninth annual West Michigan Sports Commission Luncheon in Grand Rapids, and he shared a few comments about the move.
May 19, 2015, 1:30 PM EDT
After graduating from Notre Dame over the weekend, Everett Golson has decided to play out his eligibility at Florida State. The former Irish quarterback visited Tallahassee last week before coming to a decision on Tuesday morning, according to Fox Sports’ Bruce Feldman.
May 19, 2015, 12:37 PM EDT
In a profile with Sports Illustrated, KeiVarae Russell spoke on the record about his departure from Notre Dame, his impending return, and the motivations that push him.
May 18, 2015, 2:35 PM EDT
In a one-question, part-two of the mailbag, a reader points out one of the most important factors entering the 2015 season: Brian VanGorder’s defense.
May 15, 2015, 9:18 AM EDT
For as much as we’re ready to move on from the quarterback talk… we’re not really ready to move on from the quarterback talk.
May 14, 2015, 11:41 AM EDT
We close out our post-spring stock reports with a look at the defensive line.
May 13, 2015, 2:47 PM EDT
For all the attention paid to Everett Golson’s decision to leave Notre Dame, the Irish might be welcoming back an even better football player when KeiVarae Russell returns this June.
May 13, 2015, 11:12 AM EDT
The mailbag is open. Also, a quick bit of housekeeping as we address some problems in the comments.
May 12, 2015, 2:03 AM EDT
First came the news that Everett Golson was leaving. Now comes the circus, as we take to the rumor mill to speculate where Golson ends up.
May 11, 2015, 12:18 PM EDT
We continue our look at the post-spring depth charts with the linebackers. A talented group of athletes might provide one of the most misleading depth charts in recent memory.
May 9, 2015, 2:36 PM EDT
Just to get our mind off the big quarterback news. Let’s tackle a few mailbag questions… that don’t talk about the guys playing behind center.
May 8, 2015, 1:51 PM EDT
The dust has settled. Everett Golson is leaving Notre Dame. So while the rest of the story will take chase—the wheres and the whys eventually coming out—the only thing that’s important for the Irish is looking at what remains, and how the program moves on from here.
May 7, 2015, 7:11 PM EDT
Incoming freshman defensive end Bo Wallace tweeted that he’s no longer going to attend Notre Dame.
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- Everett Golson transferring to Florida State 105
- KeiVarae Russell’s Return (or the greatest story we’re not talking about) 31
- Five things we’ve learned: Analyzing Everett Golson’s departure 125
- It’s official: Everett Golson will transfer (UPDATED) 172