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Couric talks Te’o interview with Dan Patrick

Jan 24, 2013, 12:09 PM EDT

Couric Te'o

While the most highly anticipated episode of “Katie” still hasn’t aired where I live, Katie Couric went on the radio with Dan Patrick to discuss her sit-down with Manti Te’o. Couric came away believing Te’o and his family, in what will likely (hopefully) be one of the final chapters in this very weird saga.

“I think he did very well in the interview,” Couric told Patrick. “I think it was incredibly compelling. I think he was very honest. Honest about how this relationship unfolded. I don’t think he concocted this hoax.”

Couric, who told Patrick she was shown actually phone records of the hours of conversations Te’o had with Lennay Kekua, who is now believed to be Ronaiah Tuiasosopo, also played voicemails that were left for him. Couric herself was sold that they sounded like a female voice.

Still, Couric thought Te’o was forthcoming about his mistakes, mostly after he received the fateful phone call on December 6th.

“I think he was honest about his shortcomings in terms of being completely honest about the nature of the relationship. I think he conceded that he misled people after he knew something was terribly wrong and that the whole thing was just completely fishy.”

With a wide spectrum of thoughts on Te’o being voiced freely from just about anybody with an opinion, it was interesting to hear Couric’s take on Te’o. When asked by Patrick about Te’o’s personality, Couric jumped on the idea of Te’o just being extraordinarily naive.

“Very. I think he’s a very naive, very young 21-year old, who is very dependent on his family,” Couric said. “I think also, I have to say, from what I gather from his account, the person behind this was extraordinarily manipulative and incredibly, really almost weirdly, intelligent about the way this was conducted.”


  1. dickasman - Jan 24, 2013 at 12:21 PM


  2. Jennifer - Jan 24, 2013 at 12:25 PM

    All of this T’eo Talk by idiots makes me (almost) long for yesteryears quarterback debates about Tommy, Dayne and Everett.

  3. papadec - Jan 24, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    ohhhhhhhhhhhh, I’m sooooooooo scared.

  4. 4horsemenrideagain - Jan 24, 2013 at 1:06 PM

    Katie Couric is such a hack, I have to wonder why Te’o would agree to do this interview on her dopey show (no, that doesn’t mean i’ve ever watched it, just that anything she is remotely associated with has to be drivel).

    My guess is that his agent and this character, Hilsick, the “crisis specialist” figured this was the right venue and that Couric could be reined in from the crazy talk that other interviewers would go for. Can you imagine the inane questions that would come out of the mouths of Stephen A. Smith, Mike Francesa and/or Piers Morgan? Now, a little sit down with Charlie Rose, that’s the interview Te’o should have done.

    • jefmaj - Jan 24, 2013 at 1:51 PM

      On the one hand….. she was the interviewer that brought down a vice presidential candidate (Sarah Palin) by being to rough on her…. yet, now she’s a softie?

      • 4horsemenrideagain - Jan 24, 2013 at 2:06 PM

        softie or not, i doubt the interview will turn out to be hard-hitting journalism, not that the palin interview was either. i don’t expect her to play “gotcha” with Te’o like she did with Palin, mostly because that’s not her bread and butter anymore, now that’s trying to compete with Oprah, instead of Dan Rather. all the same, she’s still a hack who lacks any discernible talent or credibility, which is why it seems like a dumb way get for Te’o to get his story out.

    • stedward - Jan 24, 2013 at 2:40 PM

      I had no idea she had an afternoon show. I thought it was a segment on abc evening news.

    • andy44teg - Jan 24, 2013 at 4:42 PM

      They have the same publicsist.

    • don74 - Jan 24, 2013 at 5:09 PM

      Te’o and Couric have the same agency handling their stuff.

    • kansasirish - Jan 24, 2013 at 7:02 PM

      They have same agent.

  5. nudeman - Jan 24, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    The insanity continues unabated.
    A story that was never really a story continues to be the #1 story, all day every day.

    Some suggestions for upcoming articles and tv investigations:

    – Manti: The man, the myth, and his favorite ice cream flavor
    – What did Braxston Cave know and when did he know it?
    – Did Manti and Lennay have phone sex, and if so he he out of the LDS church?
    – Manti’s thoughts on when they will sell those practice jerseys in the ND bookstore
    – Why?
    – The House Foreign Relations Committee should look into Lennay Kekua’s fake ID
    – Tim Brown says Manti intentionally missed tackles against Alabama

    • 4horsemenrideagain - Jan 24, 2013 at 2:16 PM

      come on now, this is the story that keeps on giving. without this ridiculous story, and its myriad ridiculous angles and wrinkles, we’d be left debating the motivations driving Tarean Folston to visit Auburn if he’s still committed to ND and what special uniforms the lads will don next year for the ASU game. almost anything is better than those discussions, though i am also weary of te’o, hence lowering myself to discuss katie couric.

      on a different note, where school does chip kelly end up coaching (see steve spurrier) when he washes out in the nfl?

    • bb90grad - Jan 24, 2013 at 4:40 PM

      One more:
      How was Ronaiah involved in the Benghazi debacle and why is Clinton still covering for him?

      • nudeman - Jan 24, 2013 at 6:38 PM

        Good point.
        Do you think there is any realistic chance Manti was involved in the Benghazi coverup too? I’m actually beginning to think so, but need to see the doctored phone logs to be sure. Or even the un-doctored one.

        Hillary is gonna’ be pissed
        And Manti won’t get off easy like that Sen. Johnson guy

      • bernhtp - Jan 24, 2013 at 9:47 PM

        Manti is reportedly about to be asked if he planted thermite in the beams of the WTC buildings for their controlled demolition on 9-11.

    • c4evr - Jan 25, 2013 at 12:16 AM

      Nude –

      Don’t kid yourself, this story is and has always been about the University and it’s protection of the football program. Once it’s parsed, attention will turn to the program. It’s already started with a vid posted on CNN with the Seeberg family and mention of Sullivan’s death. At least there’s one area ND goes toe to toe with the SEC.

      • nudeman - Jan 25, 2013 at 10:23 AM

        I don’t care WHAT the story is about, WHERE it’s headed, WHY Manti did or didn’t do something, WHAT anyone knew and WHEN they knew it.

        With the amount of coverage this has rec’d, you’d think it was the Kennedy assassination.

        There is nothing left here. And there wasn’t a whole lot to start with

  6. don74 - Jan 24, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    Is the game ball given to Lennay for the Mich game on Ebay?

  7. jerseyirish10 - Jan 24, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    As if this freaking story couldn’t get any more weird…the voice was the dude pretending to be the girl? I heard 2 of the voicemails, and they sounded like a girl to me. This kid has some crush on Te’o jock to go through this stupid hoax. I didn’t watch that interview but I guess Couric ask Manti if he was gay too and of course he said no. I mean, please, someone stop this insanity and let’s move the F ON!!!! I also read that 4 Washington Redskin players were being “catfished” as well by someone. Nothing near this mess but it’s going on. You wonder now how many athletes out there are looking at their cell phones and computers, wondering….who is on the other end of this thing.

  8. charlescub80 - Jan 24, 2013 at 7:55 PM

    Wonder if Keith Arnold still believes Te’o.

  9. gtizzo - Jan 24, 2013 at 10:12 PM

    What school could have a player that would make the late local news? What school could have a player that could make the local news in “SEC” country? The answer Notre Dame. I totally believe Jack Swarbrick when he gave his press conference about Manti. I still think Manti will make a great NFL player and that this strange situation needs to become part of his past. The reason this story is still everywhere? The sports media believes that they are the holy arbiter of what is right and wrong in sports. These self self righteous egomaniacs are angry that Manti fooled them. That is why this story is so big, they want to tear him apart because he made them look stupid. Note to media: Sometimes homework pays off!!

  10. papadec - Jan 24, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    dickas – I received an email from Keith, and it looks like he deleted some of our posts. Looks like he missed the one above though. For my part, I apologize for the comment regarding what you should eat, and your demise. I have given you thumbs up for some of your posts – some actually are on point & even humorous. BUT, dick – most of the time you are way over the top & inappropriate. I am not interested in meeting you to shake hands & make up. We all have our good days & not so good days – hopefully we’ll see more of your good, and less of the not so good.

    • papadec - Jan 24, 2013 at 11:38 PM

      somehow that last post ended up below – oh well, nothing’s perfect.

  11. dermmite - Jan 25, 2013 at 12:50 AM

    You two dudes are gay. I’m willing to put in 100 dollars to a specific site to pay for the two of you to fight and show it on NDNATION.COM. Ok not 100 but definitely 50. I got 3 kids.

    • papadec - Jan 25, 2013 at 1:24 AM

      derm – give each of your kids $30 & spend the rest on beer.

  12. yaketyyacc - Jan 25, 2013 at 7:06 AM

    CNN had a segment ripping Notre Dame apart, picking incidents sepaated in time and joining them as if they happened within minutes of each other, concluding that Notre Dame was no good.
    Beneath all of the criticism in the past weeks, is the real cause, Notre Dame went 12-0 during the regular season, and again has risen to the top of college football. They were enjoying writing of how Notre Dame WAS once a football power, and how it was all over for a football legend that sould be happy in division 2 of the NCAA, and they enjoyed jumping up and down on the corpse.
    sorry, say and write what you want, but Notre Dame is again on top, and hey, the view is pretty good from this vantage point. think we will stay awhile.
    but, the adverse journalism did bring out a very important fact. I didn’t know one of the Four Horsemen stole an apple from farmer Smith’s orchard.

    • oldestguard - Jan 25, 2013 at 11:56 AM

      Hey lets really piss ’em off and put up another 12-0 this year, and win the whole damn thing.

      There’s 1 basic commandment you can never forget when it comes to the majority of the media:

      “Dirty little secrets, dirty little lies
      We got our dirty little fingers in everybody’s pie
      We love to cut you down to size, we love dirty laundry ”

      …and they really don’t like it when anybody is cleaning up their laundry.

    • c4evr - Jan 26, 2013 at 11:19 PM

      Yak, so sorry, on top of what? Unless that’s some sort of euphemism, last I checked Alabama had claimed the top spot. So, actually the view from this vantage point would be ‘Bama’s rear end.

  13. joewilliesshnoz - Jan 25, 2013 at 9:15 AM

    Sorry Manti, but you come off this interview sounding like a moron.

  14. 1historian - Jan 25, 2013 at 9:34 AM


    I have seen this sad little story described as a ‘tale’ (Elizabethan overtones).

    I have seen you use the the word ‘legend’.

    Somehow or other the word ‘legacy’ has popped up. (Not blaming you)

    Now you use the word ‘saga’ in connection with it.


    This started out as a hoax, and because Notre Dame was connected with it it was blown wide open and became nationwide news.

    Now katie couric has stepped in.

    It is officially now nothing more than a farce.

    How about doing what you do best – reporting on the ND football team. With NSD less than 2 weeks away and some choice (possible) recruits on campus this weekend I for one would like to know what is gong on there.

    Please – let this farce die.

    • nudeman - Jan 25, 2013 at 10:24 AM


  15. elwaysmilehighdenver - Jan 25, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    I continue to be amazed at the nd fans who call this a waste of time. Now it’s a FARCE!? You were peeing yourselves over this guy all season. Time to put on the depends. This will continue until the truth comes out. No rock will be left unturned.
    Now it’s being reported by voice experts that the voice on Manti’s phone is a woman’s. Nice job reporting the news Keith!

  16. nchdomer - Jan 26, 2013 at 7:43 AM

    Unfortunately, the story will continue on, though will lesser force, until the media finishes with the perpetrators version of events (Dr. Phil is in the on-deck circle). Couric has now pushed the story to the tabloid/entertainment news sections of the media. She has also validated Manti’s innocence, it seems.

    As regards the woman’s voice issue, it now appears likely that it was not the perpetrator’s voice but that of his female cousin. The hoaxer’s lawyer floated the story that it was his voice – all, seemingly, in an effort to create the appearance that he is psychologically imbalanced. This may have two purposes behind it – both related to the legal system and how it could affect the perpetrator. This guy did not hire the lawyer to be a spokesman. Rather, he was hired to evaluate and protect his client from potential exposure to the criminal justice system or the civil courts (where suits seeking monetary damages are filed). Although both seem unlikely, the perpetrator may have some concerns that he is not yet out of harm’s way. After all, why does one prepare an “insanity defense” before there is even a hint of the legal system being involved? And for those who think this is pure speculation, you are correct. But remember, we live in a society where the book and movie rights to the story may already be in negotiation. And if Te’o drops significantly in the draft, he could very well sue the perpetrator (who, if he gets a book deal, will then have money to pay the damage claims of Manti, and, for that matter, the other victims of the hoax). I for one would not like to see the hoaxers eventually make money off of this deception but can see that happening down the road.

    Regardless, the only people injured so far are the victims of this hoax, not the perpetrators. Hopefully there will be some justice in that regard at some point through this sad story.

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