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Rumors fly about Vanderdoes’ commitment to Irish

May 21, 2013, 11:01 AM EDT

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For the past few days, rumors have been swirling about high-profile prospect Eddie Vanderdoes. The blue-chip defensive lineman, who made the dramatic decision to sign with Notre Dame on Signing Day, is reportedly having some second thoughts on that commitment.

What that entails – or if it’s actually true – is anyone’s guess.

Vanderdoes himself has been radio silent throughout the week and a source close to the situation says the family has gone into a media lock down. But the Sacramento Bee’s Joe Davidson, who hosted Vanderdoes’ signing day ceremony back in February, addressed some of the rumors and added a few interesting wrinkles to the alleged dust-up.

Speculation about Vanderdoes ranged from character concerns to an academic fall out. Vanderdoes’ coaches continued to rave about his upstanding character on Monday, and his father Eddie Vanderdoes on Monday night texted of his son, “One thing I can tell you is grades or eligibility is not and has never been an issue.”

He added in the text, “let people speculate, but you will be the first to know, as always, when it’s time to let people know.”

Said Placer football coach Joey Montoya of his star player’s character, “Absolutely he’s gold. He is a selfless teammate and is highly dependable. I love that kid.”

As for grades, Montoya said Vanderdoes is fine academically, “for Placer and the NCAA, he is for sure.”

Davidson also went on to mention an administrative mistake that happened at the Signing Day that set the internet ablaze back in February. During Brian Kelly’s afternoon press conference, Vanderdoes’ name was mistakenly included on the initial list of signed players, when Vanderdoes had yet to announce his commitment.

While the school collected any misprinted documents and released new ones without Vanderdoes’ name on them, the damage was done on social media, where a few reporters mentioned the snafu.

(Whether or not that mistake has anything to do with the current situation isn’t exactly clear, but you’d hope that minor flub is water under the bridge by now.)

Losing Vanderdoes would be a tough blow to the Irish recruiting class, as he was one of the top defensive linemen in the country and another huge pick up for Bob Diaco and Mike Elston. Set to enroll at Notre Dame in late June, some are reporting that UCLA has been involved in a full court press for Vanderdoes’ services, though how that’s possible in light of NCAA recruiting regulations is anyone’s guess.

Interesting to note in the snippet from Davidson is the exact wording used in certain quotes. Some had speculated that Vanderdoes is dealing with an eligibility issue, though Placer football coach refuted that. Kind of.

Davidson carefully selected his words, quoting Montoya that Vanderdoes is in the clear academically, “for Placer and the NCAA, he is for sure.”

Conspicuously absent from that quote is Notre Dame, a school with a different set of eligibility requirements than most schools Vanderdoes was considering.

Again, no comments have come from Brian Kelly or his coaching staff. That leaves us with many playing the always dangerous game of throwing scenarios against the wall, with the hopes that one of them comes true and proves somebody right.

At 6-foot-3, 300-pounds, Vanderdoes would be a valuable player in the Irish defensive line rotation, working in with All-American candidates Louis Nix and Stephon Tuitt and rising sophomore Sheldon Day.

Whether or not that ends up happening, we’ll likely find out in June.

 

  1. yaketyyacc - May 22, 2013 at 6:19 AM

    so Vanderdose, you have had a change of heart. doesn’t make any difference if its cause is academics, love, or the desire for a casual pursuit of success. frankly, I don’t mind you leaving. you have already demonstrated a flaw, indecision. it will follow even on the gridiron, where a split second of indecisiveness results in failure. so are you going to arrive at the church for your wedding and have a change of heart, or set to begin the new job, and say no.
    it is more important to me that you mature and put your life in a better direction, than you going to ND.
    we know the direction we want to take at ND. and it is UP. remember, the view from the top of the mountain is always better then the gulch, even if the gulch is in northern California.

    • bernhtp - May 22, 2013 at 8:56 AM

      Let’s not make sweeping pronouncements until we have more facts than rumors, and even then it is usually wise to skip the long-distance psychologizing.

      • 1historian - May 22, 2013 at 3:39 PM

        Well said.

      • gtizzo - May 22, 2013 at 4:57 PM

        Yes Bernhtp very well said. Hey Keith doesn’t a recruit apply and be accepted to the school before he signs a letter of intend? If he signs the letter first and isn’t accepted to the school wouldn’t that be the tail wagging the dog?

      • bernhtp - May 22, 2013 at 5:37 PM

        Just like any other acceptance, the athletic scholarship acceptance is conditional. Any HS senior accepted is in jeopardy of having it revoked if his second-semester grades fall below acceptable levels or gets into serious disciplinary/legal trouble.

        Sometimes there are additional requirements, e.g., they must pass a course required by Notre Dame such as a language or higher math. Notre Dame requires more specific coursework than many other universities for its scholarship athletes.

        I don’t know if any of this applies to Vanderdoes.

  2. mediocrebob - May 22, 2013 at 9:13 AM

    The kid’s 18. Will it hurt not keeping him? Most likely, but who knows. A lot of you were whining about Lynch also. Didn’t set the Irish back much.

    When you put things in perspective, it’s really not the end of the world. I hope he comes because he looks to be a hell of a player. But if he doesn’t, wish him well and on to the next one

    • mtflsmitty - May 22, 2013 at 6:45 PM

      No doubt, Bob. I’m blown away by how brutal some people can be about this stuff.

      I won’t speak for anyone else. But if I were held to the same standard for making sound life choices as some here hold EV or AL, I would have failed multiple times over. Indecision is one of the great joys of being a teenager.

      What I’m probably most irritated over is the self-serving nature of some. Many of those here most critical don’t know, and don’t care a lick about the kid. These folks are purely interested in their own satisfaction come Saturdays in the fall.

  3. thepiper3 - May 22, 2013 at 9:59 AM

    It’s a pretty obvious situation, and Keith has nailed it. At this point the best thing ND can do is not say anything. Don’t throw the kid under a bus, and that’s about it.

    But this is the big difference btwn ND and other places. If there were no extra restrictions, it wouldn’t be a special place.

  4. stedward - May 22, 2013 at 10:33 AM

    UCLA fans think he already asked for release and appealed the NLI committee. Notre Dame fans think nothing official has happened yet. At least players like our star recruiter Jaylon Smith are on the case.

  5. whitdog23 - May 22, 2013 at 10:38 AM

    you can’t “block him” if he doesn’t meet school qualifications to enroll.

  6. 4horsemenrideagain - May 22, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Let’s suppose for a minute that the dust-up isn’t about the young man getting cold feet, homesick, a fledgling romance or even wanting to live in pasadena for the next few years and play for a school whose mascot is a teddy bear.

    based on the high school coach’s not-so-subtle remarks, it sounds like the only explanation is some issue with ND admissions. i can’t imagine the coach making such a statement without the permission of the family, and maybe he even made the statement at the family’s request. EV’s father is clearly no slouch when it comes to the PR game, and is using this sacramento writer and the coach as his proxies/mouthpieces, which shows the father is a savvy character and protecting his son’s reputation and also possibly jockeying to get him out of his LOI if whatever issue isn’t resolved to his satisfaction.

    who can blame the father for doing what he thinks is best for his son? and if there was some screw up with admissions that wasn’t EV’s doing or his fault, i’d be mad as hell too, especially given the NSD snafu which while i think of NSD as a big, stupid excuse to make espn richer, is bigger than prom to these kids and which ND ruined for EV. if taking it to the press and sending some messages to ND through the coach and this sportswriter is the way EV’s father thinks he can get the issue worked out, so be it. it doesn’t take a genius to see that the interwebs are a powerful tool for getting one’s point across, especially if that message is “we’re pissed off so stop jerking us around!” and if that message can be conveyed in 140 characters or less. none of this means EV is a bum or spoiled or a liability to the locker room. it means he and his father are protecting themselves and EV’s future, while likely still working towards resolving the issue with ND rather than cutting ties. time is on ND’s side with this. the longer it drags on, the worse EV’s situation becomes.

    just remember, if he wanted to say “go to hell ND” he would have/could have done that already, but he hasn’t. this is a good sign as i see it.

  7. paulhargis53 - May 22, 2013 at 10:51 AM

    Making fun of a school having a “teddy bear” for a mascot, when yours is a fricking leprechaun?!

    Really?!

    He’s having 2nd thoughts be cause ND got poked in the fartbox in the title game.

    He also knows that this team doesn’t have the capability to contend for titles.
    Last year was filled with squeakers against .500 teams.
    Last year was a perfect storm to go undefeated until the bowl game.

    That debacle was certainly fun to watch.

    • ibleedirish - May 22, 2013 at 11:36 AM

      The title game ass whooping was in January. Its now the end of May. I state these obvious facts because you obviously need them. If this had anything at all to do with the NC game, he wouldn’t have signed his LOI a month later. Nice try, but as usual, you prove that you are a giant douche.

    • 4horsemenrideagain - May 22, 2013 at 11:56 AM

      leprechauns are tough, they are intense and they have facial hair, not to mention they are pugilists, which as we all know, scores bonus points on the mascot-coolness meter. the crimson tide is a biological phenomenon also known as an “algal bloom.” leaving that aside that for a moment, you bag on the leprechaun while the outward embodiment of your mascot is an elephant! so we have a tough, bearded fighting dwarf vs. a mass of aquatic fungus that is represented by an elephant.

      far be it from me to impugn the intelligence of southerners, though the latent disconnect between crimson tide and an elephant isn’t a ringing endorsement of brainpower.

    • bearcatirishfan - May 22, 2013 at 12:04 PM

      Ok those whose mascots can be likened to a woman’s special week that occurs once a month should not be poking fun at anyone’s mascot. How’s that saying go, “those who squat on glass toilets should not throw used tampons”. The make a nasty smearing on the glass sides.

  8. paulhargis53 - May 22, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    nude: You can’t be all bad if your quoting the Dead…..

    What did I say that was wrong? MSU, Michigan, Purdue, BYU, and Boston College. All squeakers. All middle of the road teams.
    ND did get squat humped in the title game.

    Not my fault you people can’t realize that.

    Its just supposed to be. a pat each other on the back website and cellars each other about last season? Gross.

    Well, you. do harbor preists that should be locked up for their abnormal behavior with kids.

    • 4horsemenrideagain - May 22, 2013 at 11:58 AM

      and you have a penchant for talking about “fart boxes” and being “squat humped.”

      who is the abnormal one here?

      is your phone ringer “dueling banjoes?” be honest…

  9. f1junkiecom - May 22, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    Why attack a good kid?

    1. I don’t know EV, but any guy with his skills and accomplishments knows how to work hard.
    2. He’s not even a college kid yet, give him a break…it’s not like he’s committed a crime.
    3. Last I checked, this is all second hand hearsay info, take a breath and relax

    Classic ND myopia

    1. ND is not the only university with high standards.
    2. UCLA turned down 100,000 applicants for Fall ‘13, more than any U. It’s a pretty nice school.
    3. UCLA has little to do with this kid’s change of heart, remember he chose ND not UCLA.

    • thefightinfloyds - May 23, 2013 at 4:10 PM

      UCLA has that many applicants every year because they are in the LA. Beautiful campus, beautiful weather and even more beautiful women. It doesnt mean that UCLA has rigorous academic standards because they had to turn down applicants.

  10. paulhargis53 - May 22, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    See, that’s more like it sausage wallet!

    The dueling banjos crack was hilarious!

    • 4horsemenrideagain - May 22, 2013 at 3:25 PM

      not even sure what a “sausage wallet” is, but by your tone i’d guess it’s not a compliment.

      if you’re up for some hilarity, try this one on:

      an Alabama fan has a new neighbor move in next door to his house. he walks over, introduces himself, shakes his neighbor’s hand and invites the new neighbor to come over that night for a party. in between frequent outbursts of “Roll Tide” and “Roll Dam Tide” the Alabama fan explains “oh, it will be a hell of a party. there will be some eatin’, there will be some drinkin’, there will be some screwin’ and later in the night a fight will probably break out.”

      the new neighbor, though he’s not quite sure about the invitation, reluctantly accepts and asks about the dress code for the party. the Alabama fan replies “shoot it don’t really matter, it’s just goin’ to be you and me!”

      • thefightinfloyds - May 23, 2013 at 4:04 PM

        Ahhh someone has been watching Mad Men on Netflix

  11. 25kgold - May 22, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    The NCAA needs to lay the hammer down on these kids!! There should be an immediate one year sit out, then a one year downgrade to a FCS school before they’re allowed to play FBS ball again! Yeah, it’s ultimately their decision to make; it’s their life…BUT, this is also a business as well!! Schools lose out when these brats (and their parents) change their minds! Don’t know the percentage right off, but I’d bet the kids who stay committed end up having better careers on the next level than those who de-commit (all the time)–serves them and their parents right, too! This isn’t a video game where you can just hit pause, quit and then select another team to play with; this is real life!

  12. paulhargis53 - May 22, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    But coaches can move from job to job without penalty. and you’re ok with that?

    Get off your high horse! If the kid wants to transfer, who cares what the fans think?!

    They are young men, not fully mature.
    Maybe he met a girl- why wouldn’t he want to be closer? Maybe he sees more playing time elsewhere? Maybe he was forced into committing by overbearing parents?
    Its ultimately, his life, education and career. Not yours.
    You seem like more of a fanatic than a fan.
    Your precious Irish lose a player and you wanna punish the kid unmercifully?
    Grow up and get over yourself.

    • andy44teg - May 22, 2013 at 4:39 PM

      What the hell do you think “fan” stands for???….idiot

      • 25kgold - May 22, 2013 at 5:40 PM

        He’s a waste of space.

      • mtflsmitty - May 22, 2013 at 7:18 PM

        Andy,

        Imagine Paul’s delight as he marveled at his own wit as he typed the “more like fanatics” line. “Gosh, that was really clever of me” he probably thought to himself.

    • mtflsmitty - May 22, 2013 at 7:07 PM

      Paul, you’re obviously not an ND fan, which begs the question of why you seek out an ND chat board. I also think that your characterization (from yesterday, I think) that somehow UCLA’s academic standards for athletes are even in the same universe as ND’s is simply false.

      HOWEVER, I think your point here is entirely on the mark. College football fans, in general, need to maintain some perspective. ND, because we are finally recruiting well again is going to have this stuff from time to time. My guess is Stanford probably has similar issues due to their rigorous academic standards. And I bet their fans get pissed too. 25Gold’s rant was almost completely without merit. But he did make the point that football these days is business. Sad, but true. ND and Stanford (NOT UCLA) are trying to compete by a different set of rules than every other school save Northwestern, Duke, Vandy and maybe another one or two (but not UCLA).

  13. 25kgold - May 22, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    This is no different from signing a contract with a company to work for or a mortgage, car etc… HELL, even a marriage! If you don’t start teaching these young people to commit to something, they’ll bounce around their whole lives and think it’s cool. For this I blame the parents.

  14. rcali - May 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    I heard his dad just got a new tractor for his farm. Follow the money and you’ll see where he’s going.

    • papadec - May 23, 2013 at 10:18 PM

      rcali – auburn is in the mix?

  15. zice03 - May 23, 2013 at 12:52 AM

    ND Staff in Cali says he is having family problems and is gone. I hope Joe Mixon is a ND recruit at this time next year. To bad we keep losing key recruits. Next man in is going to be tested, need to fill that spot this cycle now.

  16. paulhargis53 - May 23, 2013 at 10:54 AM

    4horsemen: Think real hard about sausage wallet. Its the same as squishmitten…. I’m not a Bama fan,so the joke doesn’t pack the punch that it should. That and its a very old joke, used on many different teams.
    Andy: That you don’t get the actual differnce between fan and fanatic speaks volumes about you.

    smitty/25k: Why did either of you bother posting? It must suck to watch others come up with more biting commentary, while you cheerleading and offer up the inane drivel that you do/did. You should just read and not post.

    Notredan: Seriously? Mr. Tough guy puts his name, city, and email out there? Wow, I’m really impressed and scared!!
    What, are you going to fire off inflammatory emails?
    My name is Paul Hargis. I live in Hoboken, New Jersey. I’m not foolish enough to put out an email to an obvious wackjob such as yourself.
    Guess you’ll just have to be content to TRY to battle me here.

  17. 4horsemenrideagain - May 23, 2013 at 11:16 AM

    paul…now i remember you. besides being a connoisseur of vulgarities, you’re also the one who isn’t even a college football fan. you’re just a virtual don quixote, meandering the internet trying to fight the battle of truth and justice against obnoxious sportsfans, such as ND fans and put them in their place. sweet hobby. it makes sense, living in hoboken, it’s practically in the middle of nowhere. it’s not like there’s anything better for you to do with your free time, like say, hang out in NYC.

  18. paulhargis53 - May 23, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    You really shouldn’t take everything I say literally. Paul Hargis is a character that comedian Jim Norton does on the Opie and Anthony show on Sirius/XM. I don’t live in NJ either. I do have a college team, but what fun would it be to tell you who it is?
    You’d think you high and mighty ND fans would just ignore me. You just can’t resist trying to “put me in my place” though.

    This is amusing to me, it makes my workday go faster. Go ahead and try and embarass me though. I couldnt care less what any of you nameless, faceless people say about me.

    Your next move should be to not respond, lets see if you can do that…

    • 4horsemenrideagain - May 23, 2013 at 12:26 PM

      not respond? what fun would that be? i don’t indulge you to try to put you in your place. i’m not your father. i’m just trying to point out what a lame past time it is to visit a blog and try to pick fights with people, even if it does make your workday go faster. i thought that was what facebook was for.

      so your name isn’t paulhargis. quite a revelation. i’d still guess ’53 is the year you graduated from high school and got denied admission to ND.

    • bearcatirishfan - May 23, 2013 at 4:03 PM

      Yeah I think I asked if you were an o and a fan a few posts ago when I saw the name, not sure your response. Did you pick Paul Hargis as a pseudonym because he’s a pedo and this is a chtholic institution?

  19. paulhargis53 - May 23, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    You’d guess wrong on the 53 part.
    You’d also guess wrong on being denied admission to ND. Its a fine school, nothing wrong with it. Its the football fans I detest.

    I just laid out my modus operandi. You consider what I do lame, wouldnt it be considered more lame to continue to engage me? Just a thought.

    • 4horsemenrideagain - May 23, 2013 at 3:14 PM

      modus operandi…hmmm. sounds like you watch waaaayyy too much Law and Order when your not on this site trying to get someone to pay attention to your nonsense. the only reason you post here is in desperate hopes that someone will “engage” you in something, though it’s not clear what you’re looking for other than attention and apparently an opportunity to tell the world how much you hate ND fans. there’s probably a support group somewhere for this kind of thing.

  20. paulhargis53 - May 23, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    Seems to be working perfectly doesn’t it?

    Dazzle me with your next analysis of me please. Its quite entertaining.

    I don’t watch law and order.I’m more of a scat porn kind of guy.

  21. paulhargis53 - May 23, 2013 at 4:10 PM

    bearcat: I thought I answered you before.

    I just picked the name because I couldnt think of another one.I used Ted Sheckler before too.

    I’ve never watched Mad Men, madam.
    I don’t have Netflix.

    Try again.

    • bearcatirishfan - May 23, 2013 at 7:38 PM

      Yeah you must run ted’s hateful comment emporium, unfortunately the style of chip chipperson. Sausage wallet (TSS TSS)!f cking home run chipperson.

    • nudeman - May 24, 2013 at 4:06 PM

      paulhargis
      Gotta’ give it to you.
      You have a little more game than I thought.
      Or maybe I just have a newfound soft spot for you because you appear to like the Dead.

  22. catpowered - May 24, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    Do you think the stupid circus that surrounds signing day might be the issue? What a crock these kids become self centered and have to have the spotlight on themselves. It really confirms a me atmosphere, not team. As for EV good luck wherever you end up. If you’re not man enough for ND we understand. Many are not.

  23. irishfootball55 - May 24, 2013 at 4:26 PM

    What is this deal breaking lie that supposedly BK or one of the assistants told EV and his family? And has EV officially appealed to the NCAA for his release from the LOI

  24. goodfellas17 - May 26, 2013 at 3:20 PM

    Promise made promise kept is always a good lesson to learn at any age.

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