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Big recruiting weekend for the Irish

Jun 21, 2013, 3:36 PM EST

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Offseason recruiting is a tricky business. Even if the visits don’t result in a commitment, getting a recruit on campus over the summer — before an official visit — is critical to a team’s overall success in landing an elite player. Over the past few seasons, Brian Kelly and his staff have had great success with a number of different tactics.

Large Junior Days, where top flight prospects come in droves, was an early technique. Smaller select groups, like the ones used early last recruiting cycle, were a smashing success last spring. And the traditional summer camp is still a staple, where elite prospects get a look at campus and a workout with the staff, while mid-level prospects come to earn an offer from a program they like.

Count the next few days as a big ones for the Irish. With the coaching staff holding camps and hosting visitors, some of the biggest names on the Notre Dame recruiting board will be on campus getting a closer look at what the Irish program has to offer.

Here’s a quick rundown of commitment recruits and potential prospects that will be on campus this weekend for what the Irish staff is calling their “Future Stars Camp.”

THE COMMITS

Alex Bars, OT
Jimmy Byrne, OG
Quenton Nelson, OT
Sam Mustipher, OG
Elijah Hood, RB
DeShone Kizer, QB
Greer Martini, LB
Nic Weishar, TE

The Skinny: It’s always important to have a group of committed prospects on campus with a group of targets, if only to have some positive reinforcements surrounding the other elite targets. As we saw last year, having a few elite recruits like Jaylon Smith selling Notre Dame was just as important as having top-flight recruiters like Tony Alford and Chuck Martin selling the school. Those roles could quickly be filled by guys like Elijah Hood and DeShone Kizer, personable kids with a lot of stars next to their names.

THE TARGETS

Lorenzo Carter, DE
Matt Elam, DT
Thomas Holley, DT
Corey Holmes, WR
Jaylen Johnson, DE
Kevin Mouhon, LB
Cameron Sims, WR
Donte Thomas-Williams, RB
Trevion Thompson, WR

The Skinny: There are no bigger fish in the recruiting ocean than Carter, who has the reputation of a Jevon Kearse type player. Carter is a long and lean defensive end type that could flex out and play outside linebacker. Traveling with Carter is his high school teammate Kevin Mouhon, a linebacker that’s deserving of his own kudos. Mouhon projects to be an inside linebacker type for the Irish, a position of need in this recruiting cycle.

Interior targets Thomas Holley and Matt Elam are two important recruits for the Irish. Notre Dame has been on Holley for some time, but their offer to Elam came recently. Depending on the recruiting service, Elam is either a very good player or one of the nation’s elite. Alabama seems to think the latter.

Skill wise, the Irish have three very good wide receivers they’re looking at. Corey Holmes has seen a lot of Notre Dame. He’s been on campus multiple times, and the St. Thomas Aquinas product could follow guys like Ben Turk and Sam Young to South Bend. Thompson is a guy that has offers from Alabama and Ohio State, with Clemson also at the top of a board where the Irish need to make a move. His high school teammate, Donte Thomas-Williams, is a power back in the mold of Elijah Hood, so it’ll be interesting to see if the Irish let Thomas-Williams pull the trigger on the North Carolina native. If you’re looking for a big-bodied, elite prospect, look no further than Cameron Sims, who at 6-foot-4 gives the Irish another outside receiving prospect and big-bodied possession guy, and already holds an Alabama offer.

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The work the staff is doing this week is hardly just with 2014 offers, but there are plenty of targets without scholarships in place in the 2014 class as well as some elite 2015 prospects already on campus.

Two Fort Wayne products, safety/linebacker Drue Tranquill and cornerback Donovan Clark are on campus hoping to earn offers, while a slew of 2015 prospects, guys like OL Anthony Herbert, LB Justin Hilliard, OL Jerry Tillery and OLB Garrett Williams will be trying to impress staff as well.

  1. loadofwash - Jun 21, 2013 at 4:02 PM

    It will be a success if they get 3, these guys want to play for a winner and the sun bowl or BCS butt kicking ain’t going to work round here. Beef up campus security, this summer. Those sexual assault cases are getting harder to hide.

    • NotreDan - Jun 21, 2013 at 6:05 PM

      :)

      My name is Dan Crowley.

      I live in Michigan. My email address is dan_crowley@yahoo.com

      My cell phone number is 248-320-1515.

      I really wish you’d stop being such a faceless pussy and come on up and we can have a beer and talk it over.

      • nudeman - Jun 21, 2013 at 11:39 PM

        Gotta love NotreDan

      • irishpuma - Jun 22, 2013 at 12:50 AM

        solid Dan takin care of business

      • 1historian - Jun 22, 2013 at 1:33 PM

        well said

  2. dudeacow - Jun 21, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    Lorenzo is to lean to play end in ND’s 3-4 set, except on certain formations, so unless he moves to OLB he wouldn’t be a starter, regardless of his talent. So if becomes a Domer, he would make an Ishaq-type switch. Could you imagine having Jaylon Smith and Lorenzo Carter as our OLB duo? Crazy!

  3. dudeacow - Jun 21, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    (built off my previous comment)

    LORENZO CARTER vs. JAYLON SMITH

    HEIGHT

    CARTER: 6′ 5″–height helps him in pass coverage and tackling.

    Smith: 6′ 3″–prototypical size for a LB, makes him versatile.

    WEIGHT

    Carter: 232–with his height, plenty of room to add on maybe 10-20 pounds.

    SMITH: 236–beefed up 18 pounds of pure muscle this offseason so far.

    SPEED

    Carter: 4.6–great for a defensive end, good for a linebacker.

    SMITH: 4.4–extremely good for a linebacker.

    STRENGTH

    Carter: Still has a year to go before college, plenty of time to add strength.

    SMITH: Added 18 pounds of muscle mass so far this offseason. Methinks he is strong.

    ATHLETICISM

    Carter: Second-best athlete in this class, behind Jabrill Peppers. Boohoo.

    SMITH: Best athlete in 2013 class.

    RANKINGS

    Carter: 4th overall, 247 Composite.

    SMITH: 2nd overall, 247 Composite.

    FINAL: Jaylon Smith beats Lorenzo Carter, 5-1, although it’s hardly fair. Smith is a student in college, and Carter is barely a rising senior. If you compare rising senior Smith with present-day Carter, Carter beats Smith in height, weight, strength, and rankings. Remember, at this time Smith was barely a consensus top-25 prospect, but Carter is already a consensus top-5 prospect.

  4. dudeacow - Jun 21, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    6′ 3″, 190 punter Tyler Newsome committed to ND today. This is what Chris Sailer has to say about him:

    “Tyler is a very good punter that is showing the potential to be great. A big, tall, strong athlete that can hit a big ball at times. He is showing great improvement in this area. Has the size and strength to dominate at this position at the college level. This may end up being his strength. With continued hard work, watch out! Also a top national kicking prospect. A fine young man with a great attitude and work ethic. Excellent prospect.”

    Interesting that ND would offer him with the limited scholarships available, although it does make sense since he’s a dual-threat. When Tyler is a sophomore at ND, it will be him, punter Andrew Antognoli, and kicker John Chereson as the specialists. He could back up both, or be a starter depending on his talent. ND did not offer Antognoli or Chereson, but they offered Newsome, so they obviously like him.

    He was also offered by Air Force.

    • papadec - Jun 21, 2013 at 8:55 PM

      Seems to me that several people, posting here, were complaining about the kicking game & Special Teams – hopefully Tyler addresses part of that issue. At least it demonstrates that Kelly & staff are aware enough of the need to use a scholarship to address the problem.

    • irishpuma - Jun 22, 2013 at 12:52 AM

      Finally a recruit I can get behind!!

  5. dickasman - Jun 21, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    Oh goodyyyyy! We gone git us sum young Aaron Hernandeeeezezzzz!!! Gotta hand it to him though, talk about dedication. Guy goes to nightclubs and is part of murder and then shows up to work out while everyone’s on vacation. No Gator chop fo youuu!

    Not that it matters but Where are we ranked in recruiting? I haven’t been paying any attention to it at all.

    • dudeacow - Jun 21, 2013 at 5:54 PM

      3rd, behind Bama and Tamu.

    • papadec - Jun 21, 2013 at 9:14 PM

      dick – espn has ND @ #8.

  6. padomer - Jun 21, 2013 at 5:52 PM

    interesting comparison dude…that would make for a lethal combo. Still probably has the time and frame to gain DE weight. Also pumped about Matt Elam, the DT from Kentucky. Stands on the north side of 6’6 and 365+ lbs. The thought of him and Lorenzo would be amazing. Absolutely agree with Keith in that it is vital to have already-committed-players there as well so as to build on that family bond that ND is famous for. Hope these guys come on board, they have a chance to do some special things.

    Load, cmon man, taking jabs at nd for losing commits or games or whatever is one thing, but using sexual assault/declan sullivan tragedies as smack talk? That’s crossing the line, hard, and even you should know better.

    • dudeacow - Jun 21, 2013 at 5:59 PM

      Could you imagine a 2 defensive tackle set with (so far) 6′ 5″ 270 Jay Hayes and 6′ 6″ 365 Matt Elam? They would overwhelm with sheer size.

      • dudeacow - Jun 21, 2013 at 6:01 PM

        The beast looks like a really tall version of Nix!

  7. 10of14 - Jun 21, 2013 at 9:55 PM

    …and not that Dan needs it, but his fellow MI resident and Irish dude has his back…

  8. 1historian - Jun 22, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Today is June 22, meaning that there are 8 days left in the month.

    Add 31 for July – 39.

    Add 30 for August, total (drum roll) – 69.

    When I was in the service when you hit 69 you became an OFFICIAL short-timer.

    So today we become OFFICIALLY short timers until the kickoff.

    69 and a wakeup!!

    • papadec - Jun 22, 2013 at 5:41 PM

      1hist – yeah, 69 for the obvious reason. At 52, we started handing out a card/day – saving the Ace of Spades for the last day.

  9. fnc111 - Jun 22, 2013 at 5:58 PM

    F recruiting. It’s so overrated. EG never should’ve been on NDs campus. I hate CBK more and more everyday for setting the offensive side of the football team back years. Bob Diaco is the reason why ND has been hanging around. The offense is going to suck this year.

    • 1historian - Jun 24, 2013 at 11:18 AM

      wrong

  10. mediocrebob - Jun 22, 2013 at 6:57 PM

    FNC … Do you need a hug

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