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Offseason cheat sheet: Quarterbacks

Aug 15, 2013, 3:24 PM EDT

Rees Kelly

From the looks of it, more than a few Notre Dame fans have come out of hibernation. After last year’s dream season came to a crashing halt, it’s more than understandable that some Irish fans decided to take a few months off before returning to the fray.

But that hasn’t stopped us. So with just over two weeks to go before the Irish kick things off against Temple, we present you a Du Lac approved crib sheet that should get you up to speed for the upcoming season.

(We’ll even spare you the Everett Golson jokes.)

POSITIONAL OVERVIEW

Heading into spring practice, the quarterback depth chart hadn’t looked better in at least a decade. With Everett Golson, the Irish had a returning starter that looked like he had star qualities. In Tommy Rees, Notre Dame had one of the most experienced back-ups in the country. Gunner Kiel was a five-star prospect who had just taken the redshirt off and Andrew Hendrix was a guy that could help the Irish in some situational packages. Add in a promising true freshman in Malik Zaire, and trying to find reps to keep everybody happy seemed like the biggest challenge for Brian Kelly.

That certainly isn’t the case entering the season. Gone is Kiel, transferred to Cincinnati where he’ll sit out the season but have the inside track for a starting job that may have never come in South Bend. But the biggest surprise was the loss of Golson, who is not enrolled for the fall semester after some academic improprieties, costing him the ’13 season.

What looked like a five man scholarship depth chart is now down to three, forcing Tommy Rees back into the starting lineup. It’s a familiar spot for Rees, though he’s never had the comfort of knowing the job was his heading into a season.

Let’s take a look at the depth chart and do some projecting.

ROSTER READING

1. Tommy Rees, Sr. #11
2. Andrew Hendrix, Sr. #12
3. Malik Zaire, Fr. #8
4. Charlie Fiessinger, Jr. #17

CRYSTAL BALL

It’s scary to think it, but Rees might be the most irreplaceable skill player on the Irish roster right now. There’s a major drop in offensive acumen from Rees to Hendrix, and any injury to Rees would necessitate taking off Zaire’s redshirt, something this coaching staff doesn’t want to do unless necessary.

Rees is far from a perfect player, as evidenced by his first two years playing. While accurate, he’s short an arm that can make all the throws and was loose with the football, a major reason the ’11 team didn’t reach their potential. All that being said, there’s a belief inside the program that the Irish offense won’t miss a step with Rees back behind center. While he’s got to clean up some of the mistakes that plagued him as a sophomore, he’s four years into Kelly’s system and is comfortable with what he can and can’t do. While it’s easy to think about what could have been with Golson behind center, it’s downright scary to think about what life would be like without Rees.

Looking even farther into the crystal ball, it’ll be interesting to see what happens this spring. While the intention is to have Golson back, counting on him before seeing him in South Bend isn’t a certainty. But with only DeShone Kizer in the recruiting class at quarterback, what happens with Hendrix seems to be the big question. With a degree in hand, Hendrix will have multiple opportunities both on and off the field. Will he stick around to play a final season and compete for time? Will he go to another college where a job is there for the taking? Or will he hang it up and go to med school?

Those questions can be answered later. But after starting with a meeting room short on chairs, the Irish offense needs to have a bit of good luck to reach its potential this year.

  1. ndfansince69 - Aug 15, 2013 at 3:45 PM

    I for one, have been waiting on some practice video of Fiessinger. I hear he is pushing for some PT!! :-)
    Kidding…only kidding.

    Go Irish!

  2. NotreDan - Aug 15, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    I really don’t see Hendrix as a serious #2.

    If there are issues with TR (praying there are not) I expect to see MZ and to live with his growing pains in that event.

    • bernhtp - Aug 15, 2013 at 5:16 PM

      Why Hendrix as not serious #2? In the limited time he has seen the field, he frankly has looked better than Rees. For example, the 2011 Stanford game saw a truly dreadful performance from Rees in the first half and a fair job by Hendrix (some very good drives/scores and a bad interception) in the second half.

      Apparently Kelly sees Rees as better from practice – and I trust that judgment – but don’t see how outsiders can say that Hendrix is incapable of doing reasonably well. Nothing we have seen publicly indicates a huge gap between Rees and Hendrix. Do you have inside information or spidey senses?

      • mtflsmitty - Aug 15, 2013 at 6:52 PM

        I’ve been pulling for AH since July of 2012. I want him to be better than he is. He has all the tools. On paper, a comparison of The physical traits of TR and AH is, well, no comparison at all.

        But unfortunately for AH, the comparisons are not made on paper, but rather from the pocket. And that’s where AH suffers. The game seems not to have slowed down for him at all. The 2013 B&G Game was amazingly bad. He simply looks as nervous in the pocket as he did in 2011. Maybe he’s just too smart, or processes info too linearly to be effective in a big time offense.

        I’m just glad he does have one career TD. I’d hate to have the kid leave ND knowing that he fell down all on his own at the 2 yd line on the best chance he ever had.

      • NotreDan - Aug 15, 2013 at 10:25 PM

        Hendrix doesn’t have “it”, plain and simple

      • bernhtp - Aug 15, 2013 at 10:35 PM

        Completely disagree. Hendrix looked pretty good in the 2013 B&G game. His receivers dropped a few easy ones, but he also made the best pass of the day. This was also with a set of rules – no QB contact and thus no real QB run plays – that worked against his strengths.

        While I respect the coaching staff’s judgment that Rees is currently better despite his athletic shortcomings, there is no indication that Hendrix is a huge step down, let alone not a “serious #2.”

        The desire for Zaire to start is a fanciful wish based upon absolutely nothing other than some HS highlights

        Here’s a quote from Eric Hansen’s chat:

        Eric Hansen: Andrew Hendrix was able to put some distance between himself and Malik this summer and that’s continued in training camp. I do expect Malik to see some action at some point, but right now he is not on a trajectory for high-leverage situations. An injury could change things, and he could surge, but right now Hendrix is who Kelly sees as the best option to provide the Golson-esque skill set.

      • bernhtp - Aug 16, 2013 at 7:34 AM

        While I rarely reference the BR, this is actually a good quick analysis of Rees. I disagree that Rees will be on a short leash, though, but it isn’t miles long either.

        http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1738571-notre-dame-football-tommy-rees-will-be-on-short-leash-this-season#ooid=xjOWRoNTruY257QpcHr9CUz2y1JbzI5q

      • lambda02750 - Aug 16, 2013 at 9:47 AM

        I, like everyone else, have only seen AH in limited action, but the only thing that ever worried me about his was his delivery and patience. He has an awkward, short armed and flat ball delivery that makes my tummy tighten up each time he drops back to pass. I have seen him make some good plays, and he is definitely a threat with his feet; but, I am no college coach, and I trust BK and Co. assessment over mine. If he isn’t good enough for BK, then I will certainly buy what he’s selling.

      • bernhtp - Aug 16, 2013 at 10:28 AM

        Hendrix has had a number of issues including happy feet (gets anxious when pressured or initial reads are covered), throws rocket spirals to receivers ten yards away (lacks appropriate touch), has inexplicable lapses in read judgment (hits OLBs between the numbers), and generally looks less comfortable running the offense than someone of his years and intellect should.

        With that said, Rees isn’t perfect in those areas either and Hendrix does have some elusiveness to extend plays, very good running capability (speed and strength) to keep the D honest, a big arm, pretty good accuracy, and a great kid. My hope (and some reported indications) are that he overcomes many of his issues, closes the gap with Rees, and is able to step up when the time comes.

      • nudeman - Aug 16, 2013 at 11:33 AM

        Hendrix: The ultimate enigma.
        Everyone here is right on point, so I won’t repeat all that. But on another site I saw something a while back that I hadn’t read anywhere else. In addition to the limitations already noted here about AH, apparently he also lacks a commanding presence in the huddle. I guess that counts for something.

        Remember after the Stanford game when Rees was miserable and AH played pretty well? The hue and cry that BK would definitely start AH against FSU was deafening.

        Of course he didn’t, and I think that was the point right there where we found out just how little faith BK has in AH. Maybe it’s his happy feet, maybe it’s his lack of vision or the huddle presence, or more likely all of the above. But at this point it’s safe to say barring injury you’ll never see Hendrix in a clutch situation at ND.

      • bernhtp - Aug 16, 2013 at 1:01 PM

        I don’t dispute that Hendrix is currently a step down from Rees – Kelly/Martin know infinitely more than any of us and I trust their judgment – but that I don’t believe it is as big a step as alleged by some here. There is nothing I have seen in games, in B&G scrimmage, in practice videos, or from public staff pronouncements that indicates Hendrix isn’t ready to play if/when needed. Per Hansen, Hendrix is widening his advantage over Zaire and possibly closing it with Rees. It’s also reasonable to expect that Hendrix would progress more rapidly with some material playing time.

        To this last point, I would be disappointed if Kelly didn’t give Hendrix significant playing time against Temple, assuming that we put the game (mercifully) away quickly. It would be good to see him get the majority of the second half and maybe even a sport situation or two in the first. We need to strengthen our Plan B.

        There is also the issue of getting Andrew to return for a fifth. I can’t imagine that happening if he has little/no role this year. He will move onto his med career or even possibly transfer to another school for a final day in the sun. Fifth year decisions are made in the late winter after NSD and when Golson’s return status has been established. Kelly et all would be smart to prepare for that day because next year is ugly with only an unproven Zaire and a completely unknown frosh.

      • nudeman - Aug 16, 2013 at 1:59 PM

        I have heard that it is virtually not possible for a person to go to med school and play football
        So he’ll have a decision to make next year

      • bernhtp - Aug 16, 2013 at 3:55 PM

        It is completely impossible to do med school and play football, especially given that ND has no med school. He would obviously delay med school for a year if he stayed for a fifth and maybe take some graduate-level bio/chem classes that might help him the next year.

  3. mtflsmitty - Aug 15, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    One of the most insightful, and best phrased comments Keith has ever offered:

    “While it’s easy to think about what could have been with Golson behind center, it’s downright scary to think about what life would be like without Rees.” Great stuff.

    16 days to go.

    GO IRISH!!!

    • don74 - Aug 15, 2013 at 6:19 PM

      Agree. Keith’s line truly sums up the season. This comes down to “In Rees we trust.” QB in 2013 is the OL of 2012. The good news for Rees is the OL should be as good or better than last year’s edition.

  4. mediocrebob - Aug 15, 2013 at 6:35 PM

    I agree with bern. I don’t see how Hendrix is written off by so many.

    • jommy995 - Aug 15, 2013 at 6:53 PM

      I remember Crist named the starter and then spitting the bit. Wouldn’t surprise me to see Hendrix really blossom with regular backup reps he’s never before had plus a chance to sub in situationally for Rees. By end of week two, there could be a legit QB controversy in the making.

      Also, I have trouble believing Keith on this: “There’s a major drop in offensive acumen from Rees to Hendrix, and any injury to Rees would necessitate taking off Zaire’s redshirt, something this coaching staff doesn’t want to do unless necessary.”

    • mtflsmitty - Aug 16, 2013 at 1:40 PM

      Hendrix over Ziare, for sure. Hope AH gets lots of reps. We certainly want to have as many good options as possible.

  5. mtflsmitty - Aug 15, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    Totally jonesing for football, so I’ve spent the last hour watching 2012 highlights. Yes, I’m playing hookey a bit. Some thoughts:

    By review of 2012 offensive highlights, it’s amazing how much offensive firepower is gone. Wood, Riddick, Gallstone, Eifert. Those guys accounted for 95% of highlights, and 85% of statistical production. That said, it’s hard to believe some combination of GA3, GB, CM, TF and WM won’t be even better out of the backfield. With TJJ looking better than ever, DD, AC, CJP, TN, CB, and CR I think we are going to be better than 2012. And that leads to the loss of EG. It’s impossible to project the loss. TR will be better than he has in the past. But I think the true impact of the loss of EG will depend on BK’s ability to adapt to TR’s strengths and limitations.

    While Manti was the face of the defense, and Kap may have been the heart, it’s hard to believe how many guys we still have and how good the 2013 defense could be. Carlo has clear limitations, as does Fox. But we are better at every other position. Period. In some ways the 2012 stats for scoring defense may have benefited from some luck. So if that number goes up, I won’t be surprised. But I think we’ll see an even more dominant defense this year. Will be fun to watch Jaron Jones, Day, and “The Kid” develop into dominant players.

    Final thought on offense. The O-line is nothing but better than the 2012 edition. Those guys should also help make CBK and TR look really good.

    • jerseyshorendfan1 - Aug 16, 2013 at 2:36 AM

      Thumbs up for most use of initials in a post this year. One correction, however. You mention Gallstone in your post. I always thought it was Ghoulstein.

      • ndgoldandblue - Aug 16, 2013 at 8:00 AM

        It isn’t Gohlsonne?

  6. dudeacow - Aug 15, 2013 at 10:28 PM

    How is Charlie Fiessinger #17? Onwualu has that same number, and both play offense.

    • ndfansince69 - Aug 16, 2013 at 1:00 PM

      I’m guessing the thought there is, Nix will see more action at QB then Fiessinger, if all ahead of him fail.

      Go Irish!

  7. irishdog80 - Aug 15, 2013 at 11:21 PM

    It will be a great story if Tommy Rees can turn into another Tom Clements and lead Notre Dame to a win in the NCG over Bama.

    I just hope we see the Tommy Rees that had led ND to a 24-7 lead at Michigan in 2011 even with some turnovers. If that does happen, I have to believe our defense will seal the deal and not let Michigan back in the game.

  8. jkookoothe - Aug 16, 2013 at 1:17 AM

    I look at the QB position from last year and think that it’s possible to advance to the NC game with 3,139 combined passing and rushing yards from that position. That’s the combined yardage of Golson and Rees in 2012. In 2011 Rees had 2871 yards passing. I see no reason why he can’t make up the extra 268 yards that would equal last year’s production from the QB position. We will be just fine ND Nation.

    • irishbornraised - Aug 16, 2013 at 5:52 AM

      People’s concerns don’t center around passing yards, but rather around turnovers and what a lack of mobility will do for an offense.

  9. 25kgold - Aug 16, 2013 at 3:01 AM

    Looks like brand-new jerseys this year:

    Found via http://ble.ac/teamstream

    • 1notredamefan - Aug 19, 2013 at 8:15 PM

      WOW! Hope It’s not as ‘Ravens’ as it looks in the pic but good to go otherwise!

  10. irishbias - Aug 16, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    BK has never shown us anything other than he likes to play multiple players at every position!!! Hendrix will get his chances, hopefully D’s won’t catch on and stack the box.

    Tommy is at his best in a two minute offense… We should just run it that way for him at all times.

    The D dominates, and leads this team to victories, and a BCS appearance. Although the number of turnovers in ND’s favor could be down. Tuitt, Big Lou, And Prince dominate. We will also see Jaron Jones, Springman, Sheldon Day, and Tyler Stockton step up and play well. Chase Hounsell is someone that, if healthy, should have a big impact. The secondary is also going to be even better. The LB’s need to make sure they wrap up.

    The NC game will be based on how well the offense clicks. The o-line needs to lead us and make big holes, and they will be fine. Tommy needs to not focus on one man as a target.

    • knuterocknesghost - Aug 16, 2013 at 10:36 AM

      The one advantage TR has over the other QBs available this year is his knowledge of the offense and his leadership. Members of the team give their vote to TR for his leadership and it’s almost like having coach on the field given his experience and his devotion to studying the game. He tutored Golson extensively and they even roomed together at one point, and I expect the reason for that was BK’s thinking that TR could talk football with Golson more hours outside practice than during practice or film study. That knowledge makes TR the ablest QB for ND to run the non-huddle offense, which supposedly has been a trademark of BK’s offense. I expect that we will see far more of that this year than any of the last three of the BK era.

  11. fnc111 - Aug 16, 2013 at 10:30 AM

    Don’t give up Hendrix! We are going to need you this year. Go get em…. If Kelly doesn’t use you at all this year it clarifies how big of an idiot he truly is.

  12. fnc111 - Aug 16, 2013 at 10:37 AM

    I don’t get why I’m called negative when all I ever see on here half the time is/was bashing Hendrix and Crist but if you ever say anything off color about Rees you are an evil person. Why is Tommy Turnover immune to criticism???? Hendrix has his faults and seems to have an untimely LB interception each game but he outplayed Rees against FSU and Stanford in 2011.

    • nudeman - Aug 16, 2013 at 11:35 AM

      You’re called negative because you come here daily with your methane filled blather that is just useless

    • andy44teg - Aug 16, 2013 at 11:56 AM

      Also, you insist on bashing Kelly with every other post with no reason whatsoever. All that he’s done is win 28 games in his first 3 years as HBC, had 2 top ten recruiting classes, and he’s won every where else he’s been. You’re hatred for BK is quite unfounded and mind-boggling.

      • nudeman - Aug 16, 2013 at 12:00 PM

        Correct.
        Here’s a suggestion fnc: Don’t want to be called negative? Just go away

    • mtflsmitty - Aug 16, 2013 at 1:44 PM

      For clarity few refer to you as negative. Most refer to you as a total asshole.

      • nudeman - Aug 16, 2013 at 2:35 PM

        Also “major, immature, dumbfu** asshole”
        I’ve seen that too. Just sayin’ …

    • goirishgo - Aug 16, 2013 at 3:57 PM

      You’re not evil because of your idiotic, repetitive, and illogical posts on BK and TR. Those are just pathetic.

      You’re evil because you have the capacity to post such disgusting drivel about Coach Alford and his family’s loss.

    • onward2victory - Aug 16, 2013 at 5:12 PM

      “…all I ever see on here half the time…”

      Is that like saying 70% of the time it works every time? Comments that don’t make sense is one of the lesser reasons why no one likes you on here. But that Coach Alford BS you pulled just put us all over the top.

  13. knuterocknesghost - Aug 16, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    From the Chicago Tribune: “Granted, there’s something to be said for a more mobile quarterback,” Hendrix said. “But what makes an offense thrive are accuracy, lack of turnovers, things like that. Which any quarterback can do, whether he runs a 5.5 or a 4.5 (40-yard dash).”

    • knuterocknesghost - Aug 16, 2013 at 11:37 AM

      Quote of Hendrix taken from article appearing March 24, 2012 written by Brian Hamilton of the Chicago Tribune.

      • mtflsmitty - Aug 16, 2013 at 1:48 PM

        Hard core research, Ghost. Not only player quote, but a player quote that’s relevant, from a 3rd party source, AND 16 months old. Ur not messin’ around.

  14. knuterocknesghost - Aug 16, 2013 at 11:00 AM

    NFC111: No, I don’t object to criticism of Rees that shows knowledge of the sport.

    What I object to his criticism that is entirely superficial and fatalistic. By fatalistic I mean criticism that says or assumes that Rees is somehow condemned by fate or his past and will never be capable as any person would be to improve his game.

    Watch the game films. Rees is capable of throwing an accurate ball. INTs are more from mental errors in TRs case and not because he physically is not capable of throwing an accurate ball. He couldn’t have had a 65.5% completion percentage if he couldn’t physically throw an accurate ball.

    Mental mistakes can be improved upon by experience and film study to learn to recognize situations that lead to INTs.

    I refer to my quoting Hendrix above as far as it NOT being axiomatic that the season would be better if we had Golson or if BK named Zaire as the starter. BK wants to win, not lose, and with this year’s deeply experienced and talented O-line and D-line, it makes no sense at all to concede this season for the future and say we need to focus far more on giving Zaire game experience for the next two or three years.

    But the one thing that I find disgusting (not evil, but that it sucks) is how TR was booed when he came on the field last year to salvage the Purdue came. A kid with that much dedication to ND doesn’t deserve that.

    • heartofgoldandblue - Aug 16, 2013 at 5:40 PM

      Knute: I fully agree on all accounts. With the exception of a handful of “hold your breath” balls that were either under thrown or up for grabs and were saved by the receivers (I remember specifically a few where he was bailed out by Riddick, TJ and Eiffert on a few occasions) he has been very accurate. One thing that I feel a lot of us forget to mention is how quick Tommy gets the ball out. That certainly makes up for his athletic shortcomings a little bit, if you get rid of the ball you don’t have to have escapability. I’m very optimistic about Tommy this year because I feel many of his TO’s were due to poor decisions. As Knute said, experience CAN help that, how much is yet to be decided. I do hold some reservation in my optimism because there is a fear that he won’t know the limitations of his arm. The little footage we’ve seen in practice there’ve been a few under thrown deep balls that have brought back bad memories and have pulled me back a bit from being 100% sold. That being said…I like many am certainly glad to have Tommy and really think he’ll have a great year. Just can’t go all in quite yet

      • knuterocknesghost - Aug 16, 2013 at 8:19 PM

        Heart: I think most every young QB who ends up being good still has his share of “near misses with disaster” moments which instead turned out ok for them because of their receivers in addition to their disasters. That includes a young Mr. Rees and a young Mr. Golson.

  15. knuterocknesghost - Aug 16, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    If Rees shows he hasn’t improved his game mentally, and makes too many decisions that lead to INTS or negative yardage plays this year, I’m all for changing QBs. What a shocker, huh? But the reason I am for this not because he cannot run a 4.5 or 4.6 forty or he lacks a cannon for an arm. BTW, Montana’s arm was rated as average in the league draft (6 out of a possible 9, that per an SI article appearing years ago).

    It’s a QB’s mental game which counts the most. TR has the physical skill set to succeed. He supposedly runs around a 4.9 40 and his mobility is not because, as Hendrix is quoted above, his lacking a 4.5 or 4.6 40, but more again about his mental ability when it comes to having “pocket presence.” Football is far more mental preparation than most people realize, especially for the quarterback position.

    • nudeman - Aug 16, 2013 at 11:40 AM

      Please … everyone stop mentioning Rees in the same sentence as Montana

      Unless we’re talking about Nate, that is like comparing Jorge Posada favorably with Babe Ruth because they both played for the Yankees and hit left handed.

      Montana’s arm was better than Rees.
      Montana was MUCH more mobile than Rees.
      Montana showed incredible courage under fire and engineered some of the all time greatest comebacks in the history of CFB. Then he did the same in the NFL.

      And don’t pull out the stats that show Tommy threw for more yards and more TDs.
      Totally different game back then where teams relied much more on running the ball.

      • knuterocknesghost - Aug 16, 2013 at 12:07 PM

        Nude….. Gee… I see conflation is your stock in trade here. No, I did not say that TR was going to be another Montana. At his level of competition, Montana was rated as not having a cannon for an arm in terms of its strength versus his rivals AT THAT LEVEL OF COMPETITION. Accuracy was the key for him just as Hendrix observed about quarterbacks that succeed. AT A LOWER COMPETITIVE LEVEL (I assumed we know that TR is competing at the collegiate level and not the NFL) TR need only have an average arm as well if he can throw accurately. I guess my points are too nuanced for you Nude. But there’s the logic. Good luck.

      • nudeman - Aug 16, 2013 at 12:22 PM

        Not too nuanced, but I confess to blowing a fuse and having stopped reading after the mention of Montana. Reason is that I have seen others here and elsewhere compare Rees to Montana, favorably believe it or not.

        The argument goes like this:
        – Neither was a great athlete. (Wrong. Joe had a b-ball schollie offer from North Carolina)
        – Neither had a big arm. (True, but Joe’s was still markedly stronger than Tommy’s)
        – Neither could run (Wrong. Joe could run. He wasn’t a “running QB” like Young or VIck, but very mobile
        – Tommy’s passing stats were way better (True, but a bad comparison. As I already said, the game is much more of a passing game today)

        Based on how well you write, you seem logical and I doubt you think there’s any comparison here. But believe it or not, many make the argument that Rees is just like Joe.

      • knuterocknesghost - Aug 16, 2013 at 12:52 PM

        Nude: No…. I am no where near saying he’s at Montana’s level, most importanly in terms of mental toughness and having an instictive feel for the game as a play develops on the field.

        My comparisons where measuring Montana as an apple relative to the other apples in the NFL, and that I was comparing TR to the other oranges in college.

        And I agree that the game has changed from Montana’s day at ND. TR’s experience is deep for ND, and that has to count for something in his favor and augurs well for his having a chance to feel more comfortable out in the field.

        I think quarterbacks in college who are very good right out of high school are those with a lot of swagger and self confidence. Call it cockiness. I think that was the case with Johnny Manziel and also Montana as his career developed in college. Montana’s been written to have been angry (not disappointed, but angry) at his head coaches for not letting him start, be it Devine and even in the case of Bill Walsh. To me that’s a sign that he “knew” he was the best.

        I think TR lacks that kind of swagger. Hopefully his confidence level is way up and should be given he’s started more games at QB for ND as a freshman and sophomore except for Brady Quinn and Jimmy Clausen.

      • nudeman - Aug 16, 2013 at 1:03 PM

        Good points.
        I have suspended my TR bashing and am hoping for a great year from him.
        It IS possible. But I confess that I’m holding my breath.

        Sort of like on the HS team when I’d say “I want them to hit it to ME” with the game on the line. Since we played on bad fields with rocks for infield dirt, I NEVER wanted the ball hit to me.

        But I knew I was supposed to say I did.

        So I did.

        Just like I’m doing now.

      • irishbornraised - Aug 16, 2013 at 4:18 PM

        Also to be mentioned is that the reason Joe is known for his NFL career is that he played in an offensive system (Bill Walsh’s West Coast System) that favored his abilities.

  16. yaketyyacc - Aug 16, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    the dye is cast. set in stone. all the pros and cons on this board are not going to change things one bit. the opinions will only serve later for those who wish to say, I told you so.
    the problem is that coach Kelly feels he has no choice. he has to go with Rees. he is stuck with Rees. he know better than us how limited Rees is. he also knows better than us, what the capabilities of all his quarterbacks is.
    lurking in the back of my mind is Zaire. why? just a feeling, and that is sure no reason to say Zaire.
    but like my fellow student, who said, there is a quarterback who I think is better then the two ahead of him, but the coach won’t play him. well. evidently the new coach, Ara, felt the same way and won the National Championhip with him: Terry Haratty

  17. yaketyyacc - Aug 16, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    sorry for the mispe;;;ing, is’ HANRATTY

  18. irishaggie - Aug 16, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    Has anyone seen the hilarious video that ESPN captured about Brian Kelly running a drill with the running backs. It’s on the Notre Dame page. I dont like posting links. But if you want a good laugh it’s there.

    • knuterocknesghost - Aug 16, 2013 at 12:11 PM

      It’s the same drill that Tomy Alford does with the RBs.

    • irishaggie - Aug 16, 2013 at 12:39 PM

      This is the one I’m talking about: I feel bad it was Cam McDaniel, but its funny.

      • knuterocknesghost - Aug 16, 2013 at 12:57 PM

        OMG…. your right. Hadn’t seen that. Players even said before the drill the equipment was backwards and BK steps in it and says otherwise.

      • martyhealy - Aug 16, 2013 at 2:33 PM

        Mcdaniels, is owed one start by Kelly. Maybe, not be the featured runner, but at least one start.
        LOL

      • 1notredamefan - Aug 19, 2013 at 8:18 PM

        If ya notice… he doesn’t look, that’s how confident BK is in his guys…. if he had to check everything his assistants did in order to appease these players… that is all my friends

  19. andy44teg - Aug 16, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    I still thought he could make it!!

  20. runners00 - Aug 16, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    It all comes down to running the football. Really. If the backs can get some holes and can average around 5 yards/carry, we’re not likely to need TR’s arm. If we cannot move the ball on the ground, we are in trouble. And someone else mentioned something really important: Eifert, Te’o, Golson, Wood, Riddick account for like 90% of the 2012 highlights. Expecting a perfect season with replacements at these key positions — quarterback, running back, linebacker, and etc. — is pretty demanding but it’s possible. We may have to play a different brand of football – -on offense anyway — than we did in 2012.

  21. 4horsemenrideagain - Aug 16, 2013 at 2:49 PM

    after some of the short rushing touchdowns Cam will score this year, i bet he’ll be thinking “man, that defense was nothing! that gauntlet machine hit me harder than that the day bk made me try to go through it backwards…”

  22. fnc111 - Aug 17, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    My cheat sheet still says TR stinks and no homerism can change that bro.

  23. mikes1160 - Aug 18, 2013 at 8:51 PM

    This blog sez it wants you to go away fnc111. “Bro”? Crissakes, how old are you??

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