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Nine Irish players invited to the NFL Scouting Combine

Feb 10, 2014, 1:39 PM EST

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Notre Dame will have nine former players in Indianapolis for the NFL Scouting Combine. The premiere pre-draft talent evaluation session, taking place February 22-25 at Lucas Oil Stadium, will give NFL coaches, scouts and general managers a closer look at NFL prospects before the upcoming draft.

The following former Notre Dame players received invites:

George Atkinson III, Jr.
Bennett Jackson, Sr.
TJ Jones, Sr.
Zack Martin, Sr.
Troy Niklas, Jr.
Louis Nix, Sr.
Prince Shembo, Sr.
Stephon Tuitt, Jr.
Chris Watt, Sr.

After a few off years of producing talent, the NFL has looked kindly upon the prospects the Notre Dame football program has produced. Last season, the Irish had eight players invited to Indianapolis, with six drafted. The 17 prospects over the two year window is behind only LSU (24), Alabama (22), Florida State (22) and Florida (18).

Of course, not all prospects invited get drafted. Last year, Tyler Eifert parlayed his performance at the combine into a first round selection. Manti Te’o, the story of the combine as he was embroiled in his catfishing scandal, put up subpar test results, likely causing him to slip into the second round. Cierre Wood and Braxston Cave went undrafted last year.

The combine presents different opportunities for different Irish players. For Stephon Tuitt, it’s an chance to stake his claim as a first round defensive lineman. Physically, Tuitt must impress, both in measureables like height and weight, but also showing advanced athleticism during drills. The same goes for Louis Nix, who will likely raise a few eyebrows upon weigh-in, but should also impress with his quickness in individual drills and events like the shuttle run.

For as important as the combine is at the top of the draft, it may be even more important for players down the board. George Atkinson’s invite allows the former running back to display his greatest asset, his breakaway speed. If Atkinson blazes an elite time in the 40-yard dash, it could help a team take a flier on him in the late rounds. The same goes for Bennett Jackson, with his track background likely to come in handy.

Two bigger stories at the combine will likely be talent evaluators first look at junior Troy Niklas, who will show off a lot of impressive assets in Indianapolis. Physically, few tight ends will match what Niklas and his 6-foot-7, 270-pound frame can produce, and if Niklas is able to run in the 4.6 range, he’ll likely climb more than a few draft boards, pushing for the top spot among a crowded tight end position group.

Similarly, Zack Martin will have another chance to show his skills, though workouts in shorts and t-shirts tend to devalue what Martin is capable of doing on the field.

Notre Dame’s nine participants in the combine are the third most from a college football program, trailing just Alabama and LSU. The Irish’s two-year output is more players invited than the program produced over the previous five combines (2008-12).

 

  1. NotreDan - Feb 10, 2014 at 1:45 PM

    These ARE signs that the program is returning to prominence.

    Combine the signals indicated with high output (drafted players) with the potential of great input (2 top 10 recruiting classes) and the haters here can blabber all they want, ND is going to be good.

  2. longliveautrydenson - Feb 10, 2014 at 3:09 PM

    Two words: Player Development.

    Brian Kelly and his staff know how to do it, Charlie Weiss didn’t. Can’t wait to watch these guys in NFL uniforms next year. Also, I’m really excited to see what BK can do with this year’s recruiting class which a ton of raw, malleable talent. The future looks bright, Go Irish!

  3. rossumnminor - Feb 10, 2014 at 4:22 PM

    Rees will be in the booth with mayock during nfl nets coverage

  4. nudeman - Feb 10, 2014 at 4:48 PM

    Saw a damning post about Tuitt today after he tweeted he’s dropped 24 lbs.
    Well known NFL player personnel guy Greg Gabriel said that NFL execs aren’t easily fooled. They will want to know why he wasn’t in shape during the year and why he disappeared for long stretches so often.
    There was more – just can’t recall it all now, but he just killed him.

    If it was one of us writing that, I’d slough it off; but this guy has evaluated talent for a living at the highest level for a long time. Tuitt was a HUGE disappointment, and I never bought for a moment that it was all due to the hernia surgery. Gabriel says ND coaches have a reputation of being totally honest with NFL talent evaluators.
    Look out below Stephon.

    He sees Tuitt as a 2nd rounder.

    Assessment on Atkinson was worse.
    Final comment of a 2 paragraph-long searing indictment was “I wouldn’t touch him”.

    • NotreDan - Feb 10, 2014 at 5:22 PM

      I will say… lack of role players around Tuitt probably hurt him, but I agree; on the whole he had a disappointing year. I don’t know the particulars of his personal situation, but I think he would have benefited from coming back.

    • onward2victory - Feb 10, 2014 at 6:18 PM

      He beat USC by himself. He can be an absolute beast when motivated. The defense as a whole played pretty lackluster in 2013, don’t know how much of that we can put on Tuitt, but he was definitely a part of the problem at times. He’s gonna tear it up at the combine and still be a first half first round pick, though.

    • viktory2013 - Feb 10, 2014 at 8:23 PM

      Tuitt didn’t put in much effort all season, nor did Atkinson. I’m sure they had valid excuses for their mediocre results, but not for lack of fire. NFL general managers and coaches have a plethora of players with great talent vying for a spot, so they’re not terribly interested in hearing about lack of motivation, or disappearing for long stretches.

    • nudeman - Feb 11, 2014 at 11:36 AM

      I probably shouldn’t do this, but the post is too good not to share.
      After some idiot challenged Greg Gabriel on his original Tuitt comment, he fired right back. Sounds like his ear is pretty close to the ground on this one.

      Draw your own conclusions about how hard Tuitt worked to get back in shape
      **********************************************************************************************************************.

      “I know EXACTLY what people at ND told scouts and I know EXACTLY what Tuitt went thru. I also have watched the game tape of EVERY game this year and last. His play this year was not that good. No consistency! His play was a DIRECT result of not attacking rehab the way he should. If you don’t want to believe it, that’s fine with me. I talk to scouts and GM’s on just about a daily basis and I know what they think. Don’t be naive. There have been many players who have come back from sports hernia surgery and not gained 20+ pounds. Many don’t gain a pound! I have spent my whole adult life in the evaluation business. I know what evaluators think when they saw what they saw. Don’t make excuses for the kid. He is working his ass off now because he DIDN’T take care of himself a year ago. He is trying to make up for what he lost”

    • ndgoldandblue - Feb 11, 2014 at 12:49 PM

      When people use the word “disappointing” to describe a season, I believe they are using the word the same as I would. The player performed below expectations because said player has proven in the past to be consistently exceptional. If that’s the criterion for disappointing, then I would say that both Tuitt and Jackson had disappointing seasons. Tuitt had been spectacular in his previous two seasons, and Bennett Jackson looked quite good in 2012.

      With Tuitt, I just think he had a down year. That could be on him, or the injury, or whatever, but he has the capability of being great. If he does the work and gets in shape, he’ll be a solid NFL pro. Clowney had a down year as well, but I don’t expect it to be an indicator of what’s to come.

      Jackson, on the other hand, probably benefitted from the services of Te’o and Motta in particular, and what we saw from him in 2012 was fool’s gold. The real Bennett Jackson (a guy who gets beat in coverage, misses tackles, and doesn’t turn his head around and look for the ball) emerged last year. I think the caveat of “I wouldn’t touch him” applies to him as well.

      As for Atkinson, I don’t think he had a disappointing season because my expectations (and the expectations of many) for him weren’t all that high. I didn’t think George would turn into a reliable starting running back because of his running style and tendency to go down when getting breathed on. For two years, he was nothing but hit or miss. Big gains or nothing. I guess I didn’t expect that to change in 2013, so that’s why I don’t view his season as a disappointment. He was what we thought he was.

      • nudeman - Feb 11, 2014 at 3:14 PM

        Agree on Atkinson, although he showed improvement in 2013.
        But the expectations were low and he just about met them.

        In another post a while back, Gabriel talked about Jackson and said he’d seen him at some point this year up close with his shirt off and it was obvious there was atrophy on the side of the upper body where he’d injured his shoulder. I’m not sure that explains the horrific cover skills, but might explain the timidity re: his tackling efforts.

    • 1historian - Feb 12, 2014 at 7:15 AM

      It’s time for Ishaq Williams to step up.

  5. yllibnosredna - Feb 10, 2014 at 5:13 PM

    HUGE disappointment? Probably a bit of an overstatement. Yeah, he would dissapear for stretches but if you factor in scheme, hernia surgery ( I ‘ll buy it), and his position its hard to say the guy was a bust. Sorry but gotta disagree. Just reference Clowney’s stats–simply do not reflect the kund of terrorizing presence the guy was iff the edge. Tuitts stats were even better yet also not truly representative of his overall impact.

  6. yllibnosredna - Feb 10, 2014 at 5:16 PM

    Sorry for the typos. My smartphone sucks.

    • idratherbeinsouthbend - Feb 10, 2014 at 8:01 PM

      smartphone that creates typos…oxymoron?

  7. irishpuma - Feb 10, 2014 at 8:19 PM

    Hey Keith did you forget to talk about Tommy’s invite? Wisner and Ghost swore to me he was pro ready before the season! lol

    • viktory2013 - Feb 10, 2014 at 10:05 PM

      Ha!! Classic!! Rees getting paid to play football. It would have to be the Apocalypse.

      • heartofgoldandblue - Feb 10, 2014 at 10:54 PM

        A little harsh but true. Can definitely see him getting paid to be on the sidelines though. Isn’t there one more Grad Assistant spot open?

    • knuterocknesghost - Feb 11, 2014 at 4:06 AM

      Pume:

      Sitting at home waiting for business call from overseas, I thought would entertain myself by having a look see at Inside the Irish. It’s been a long time since I passed through here, and low and behold, I find Puma doing his “thing” again.

      Your two outstanding hallmarks are your overbearing sense of superiority and disdain for the opinions of others who disagree with you, and your penchant for traducement – you regularly do a hatchet job on what your opponents have opined here as if this tactic in misrepresenting what others have argued against you could seal the deal in proving you right. Apparently your ego requires this exercise in self-delusion.

      Never did I ever say that TR was NFL bound, notwithstanding your hatchet job to the contrary on what I opined here during the 2013 season. What I did say was that TR was not largely responsible for ND’s fortunes last season. In fact, without TR the team’s fortunes would have been far, far worse. The USC game proved that.

      As an example of your keen football acumen, you kept saying, repeatedly, that TR threw “wounded ducks” even in reference to videos of ND’s pre-season practices shown on this site that clearly demonstrated that TR had worked hard over the summer and was throwing fairly tight spirals down field. “Wounded ducks”, “wounded ducks”, “wounded ducks” was your repeated characterization of TR’s arm strength despite this evidence. Well, eventually the season proved otherwise, starting most notably with the pass from TR to DD in the Purdue game down the right sideline for a TD.

      The offensive output by ND last season practically matched the 2012 season, as well as the output from the QB position. QB rating: EG 2012 = 131; TR = 134. The main difference between 2012 and 2013 is exactly what’s being observed here – the 2013 ND defense substantially underperformed as compared to the 2012 defense, and certainly below pre-season expectations.

      TR picked some the worst moments to make bad throwing decisions, but in 2013 TR passed for 3257 yards, with 27 TDs and 13 INTS, with at least two INTS clearly shown to be the fault of the intended receiver. Not bad for a kid you constantly tagged as being only able to throw wounded ducks. Care to repeat what were you’re predictions for TR’s stats last year?

      The passing game efficiency is not all the QB’s job, though the efficiency stats, including passing completion percentages, are all tied to the QB’s name. It’s not just pitch and catch. It’s the receiver’s job to recognize defenses and adjust his route accordingly, and if that doesn’t happen, it’s the QB who gets the black eye. I hope ND improves on its receivers’ knowledge of the offensive schemes intended to match the defensive schemes that the team will face this coming season.

      But, bottom line from me and no more than this has ever been said by me in defense of TR, ND’s season would have been far worse without TR, and would have been better had the defense showed up like we all expected it was going to do as the 2013 season got underway. We’ll cut the defense some slack because of the injuries.

      And as for Tuitt, any major injury to your spine (requiring surgery) no doubt can make you hesitate out of fear arising from the examples of too many players being stuck in wheel chairs from football injuries. But does the NFL care to take that into account when looking to draft a prospect? Certainly not. So I wish Tuitt the best of luck in more ways than simply getting drafted in the first round.

      • bernhtp - Feb 11, 2014 at 9:05 AM

        This will help you wallow in your fandom:

        http://voices.suntimes.com/sports/video-former-notre-dame-qb-tommy-rees-prepares-for-nfl-draft/

        BTW, what is the Tuitt reference to spinal injury/surgery all about?

      • nudeman - Feb 11, 2014 at 8:38 PM

        WIll it ever end?
        After 2010 I thought we’d seen the last of him. Dayne would be back and it’s back to the bench.
        Nope.USF and 2011 happened. All. 13. Games. All. 42. INTs.
        But there was hope. Goldsten would be the man in 2012
        But wait … how do you spell “r-e-l-i-e-f? And many here credit him with all 12 wins in 2012.
        When he wasn’t saving a game, he was teaching Goldsten how to wipe his ass correctly

        Surely in 2013 EG would be savvy enough to not need a reliever. Right?
        But he gets caught going all Ted-Kennedy-Spanish-Class-At-Harvard
        And so … #11 starts 34 games in 2013. Or so it seemed.

        So he graduates, and we’re done with him, right?
        He’ll get his Lake Forest paper route back and fade into the sunset.Right? RIGHT????
        Nope.
        Now … videos of him training for something he has no chance of ever doing: Playing in the NFL.
        Why not videos of me training to be an astronaut?

        I fully expect that after he gets cut on day 2 of some team’s camp, he’ll show up the next night doing the CBS Evening News, playing a lead role on one of Bravo’s reality shows, broadcasting Cub games and at Camp David attempting to broker peace between Assad and the rebels.

        Jesus …

      • irishpuma - Feb 12, 2014 at 3:12 AM

        Knute are we supposed to be impressed you have a phone and are awaiting an oversea call?? Douche

        Yeah no difference between 2012 and 2013 based on QBR but how about based on wins?? The wins were from much fewer turnovers and much higher time of possession which helps a defense and allows them to be better. You actually did post Tommy would get a combine invite as one of the top ten QB’s in the country and you thought it was going to be at least a 10 win season…nice selective memory dbag. Also 5 balls in the hands of defenders dropped if you want to play that game.

        I posted best case 8-4 hmmm recall that? You can have the stats I care about winning and he is not a winner.

        Ok back to hibernation for you and keep waiting on your overseas bitcoin transaction to go through on silk road so you can get that illegal organ donation you need. I will leave the rest of the board to opine on what organ that is.

        Bern thanks for the video link that was worth a hug laugh and made my day. That looked like a Real World casting tape or Survivor audition tape submitted by your idiot brother in law or stoner friend who thinks they are going to be rich and famous.

        Me and Nude are going to do a video at the gym and say we are working out for Rio Summer games in 2016 for the 4×100 Relay and Synchronized Swimming. I know we will have to lobby for male Synchronized swimmings inclusion in the games.

      • nudeman - Feb 12, 2014 at 8:19 AM

        I swear he’s like a toenail fungus.
        Every time you think it’s gone it keeps coming back.

        And please, Puma, leave Knute/getsome alone
        He is in mourning. Bieber changed his name to “Bizzle”. Anyone know a good tatt remover?

      • NotreDan - Feb 12, 2014 at 8:41 AM

        Here’s something FUNNY. I follow TR on twitter, and he puts out this really weird tweet, I think while watching the Olympics:

        NBC really just does TV better than any other network. Doesn't matter what they're doing, it's always done the right way.— Tommy Rees (@t_rees11) February 11, 2014

        Hmm… pining for a job much?

      • nudeman - Feb 12, 2014 at 9:09 AM

        He’s on Twitter?
        That clinches it. I will NEVER be on Twitter

      • nudeman - Feb 12, 2014 at 2:39 PM

        Puma,
        Count me in on the Rio thing

      • NotreDan - Feb 12, 2014 at 9:26 PM

        synchronized swimming? banana hammocks? I detect gayness.

      • NotreDan - Feb 12, 2014 at 9:27 PM

        and puma (ask nude) I’m totally just busting your nuts. it’s cool.

      • NotreDan - Feb 12, 2014 at 9:31 PM

        I swear to touchdown jesus and st. patrick alike… that tommy reeses pieces will haunt my nightmares for decades. i think that porn-stache SOB is one of the building blocks of my alcoholism. dick

      • irishpuma - Feb 13, 2014 at 2:41 AM

        Notre Dan no worries I like your posts you are solid!!

        Nude alright I will cut back on the whiskey and fast food, Rio here we come. No worries fellas UnderArmour is already designing Nudes and I’s swimming suits for full coverage, we won’t have to wax, spray tan or speedo up….much to Dickasman’s dismay.

        I can see it now, Reesus as the new TBOW on NBC NotreDame saturday coverage…..kill me now.

        Luckily no tatt change for me as I have Biebs full body with bangs riding a dolphin over a rainbow on my low back. That visual brought to you by Notre Dan!

        Cheers.

  8. mediocrebob - Feb 11, 2014 at 9:41 AM

    Rocknesghost-

    I agree with you. Could’ve been said in about half of what you wrote but you are correct sir.

    • irishpuma - Feb 12, 2014 at 3:24 AM

      Bob I wish hargis would come back and slap you around a little, Not sure on what you could possibly agree with Knute on. With the caliber of players on that team almost anyone could have went 8-4 and I am sure Malik could have, and no Hendrix probably goes 5-7, TR is terrible and if you think a QBR stats are the same as the outcome of a season you are mistaken. The D was worse partly because the QB was terrible, no long drives one of the worst time of possession in FBS, one of worst Red Zones in FBS, one of highest turnovers, etc. that equates to keeping your D on the field, putting them in bad spots, scoring much fewer points etc etc.

      I guess you could be agreeing with the Tuitt part, that was OK, However a sports hernia has nothing to do with your spine and simply is a minimally invasive restringing of your muscle wall, proper rehab and core strength exercises and you are good to go. If he had gone for major back surgery, laminectomy etc then Knute would have a point.

      IMO Tuitt had no fire, got lazy pre and post surgery, believes his press clippings, and with defensives focusing on him and him being at less than 100% the results spoke for themselves. He and Niklaus will get drafted maybe 2nd round instead of 1st but they are going to have uphill battles. I think they both could have used another year. I think Tuitt has all the skills succeed but I question his heart. Niklaus Could end up like a Carlson or Rudolph, sticks around no major impact. Or he could be gone in 3.

      • 1historian - Feb 12, 2014 at 7:20 AM

        Have to agree – both Tuitt and Niklas should have stuck around for another year.

      • nudeman - Feb 12, 2014 at 8:25 AM

        Funny how many here defend Tuitt. I saw a guy on the ground more than anything else in 2013.
        Shame on him. The oppty of a lifetime; e.g.to be an All American at prestigious ND and he blew it.
        Whch one of us wouldn’t dial back the clock for a shot at that?

        Has the body and skills of a top 10 draft pick.
        Has the heart of Ishaq.

      • viktory2013 - Feb 12, 2014 at 4:24 PM

        Couldn’t agree more Mr.Puma and Mr. Nudeman.
        I’ve never seen a quarterback with so little ability have so much longevity as Rees in the five decades I’ve watched college football. He’s not unique, certainly not at ND, in his mediocrity (see Slager, Steenberge, Andrysiak, etc.), but usually they’re quickly replaced after a few games or a season at most, and vanish into football oblivion. Rees, however, just goes on and on like some weird purgatory, still maddeningly inept yet always somehow in charge. It was why he was such a divisive figure, somehow mesmerizing a fanatical base of followers. Have this recurring nightmare where Rees has been elected president and he’s checking off policies every day to get us into the right look. Then he mistakenly invades Alaska because it was the back shoulder fade intended at Russia.

        As promising as Tuitt showed himself to be previously, he seemed lazy and attitudey all season, perhaps trying to emulate Clowney. I don’t buy the hernia excuse for bebopping in out of shape and sluggish all season long. Every star plays hurt to some degree, and if he was truly squeezing every drop out of every play I would have no gripes, but it just seemed he was waltzing along with offensive lineman regardless of how undersized they were, with no intention of putting himself at any risk.

        Same with Atkinson. Half the time he seemed to be going down of his own volition. A player with his size and speed should have been an animal out there, but a majority of the time he was playing touch football.

        The point: Why would you want to PAY these kids for mediocrity and/or indifference?

      • nudeman - Feb 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM

        Viktory
        “Like some permanent Purgatory”
        Priceless. Wish I’d written that.

        And you hit the nail on the head: ND has had worse QBs (you forgot Rusty Lisch), but never one who just wouldn’t go away.
        FOR 4 YEARS

        Just wait … when he gets cut after the first practice, there will actually be some like Knute/getsome who will pine for him to join Kelly’s staff as an OC understudy.

      • irishpuma - Feb 13, 2014 at 2:47 AM

        Vicotry fantastic post, it was definitely 4 years of limbo, god threw us a bone in 2012 just to slam the door and give us one more year to repent and suffer.

        And checking US national defense into the right play and invading Alaska!!!! Epic, legendary and I spit up my soda a little.

        Well done sir! Well Done.

        Nude I am living in fear of that I actually think it could happen, Rees still on the ND sideline as a GA. FML

  9. irishdog80 - Feb 11, 2014 at 10:41 AM

    There are injuries you can play through and one that require time to heal. A hernia takes time and you risk further injury by stressing it. Net/Net, it was a complicated season for Tuitt and there is no doubt that he is the reason we beat USC for the third time in 4 years…sounds nice doesn’t it?

    It has to be tough coaching nowadays. If you demand that a Nix or a Tuitt level player play through an injury and they end up ruining their NFL prospects… you have hurt your ability to recruit players like them–recruiters will point out to players that you caused them to lose out or downgrade their NFL prospects. The answer is to stockpile as many players as possible and do your best to keep them all fresh and healthy. ND has not had that luxury in recent years, but we are headed in the right direction. It is especially important at RB and DL due to the high rate of attrition at those positions.

  10. getsome99 - Feb 11, 2014 at 10:38 PM

    Can’t trust anything scouts have to say before the draft. Tuitt’s draft position will have less to do with his performance this year and more to do with where teams think his ceiling is. Because of his offseason injury, a strong showing at the combine would be huge for him.

    Should be fun though as we’ll get to watch the “draft guru’s” tediously breakdown nine of our guys for the next couple months. I’m most curious to see if Shembo and Watt move up any boards between now and the draft.

    • irishpuma - Feb 13, 2014 at 2:49 AM

      Oh yeah Shembo and Watt going one two??????? They are lucky to even be on a board let alone moving up.

      • getsome99 - Feb 23, 2014 at 6:17 PM

        What? No, I didn’t say that. I think they could both improve their draft stock at the combine though. Not much national attention for these 2 in the early mocks but that could change after this week.

  11. getsome99 - Feb 11, 2014 at 10:55 PM

    I also think TJ will be a player that teams rate much higher on their draft boards than the “guru” analysts once they take a closer look at him. His skills have been very underrated by the national media (and maybe even on this blog) the past 2 seasons so it’s no surprise the early mocks have him projected at 6-7 round. I think he’s as NFL ready as any WR in this class.

    • nudeman - Feb 12, 2014 at 8:29 AM

      Gabriel also wrote about TJ.
      Said he likes him a lot, definitely will play in the NFL
      But says the thing working against him is that this is a deep class for slot type guys, which is what he’ll be in the NFL.
      Sees him as a mid round guy.

  12. knuterocknesghost - Feb 12, 2014 at 11:04 PM

    Pume: You lie often. But you don’t lie well. Please, date, time and channel I said TR was going to get an invite to the combine, and that you could bank on ND having a 10 win season, no sweat… Put it in the bank, etc. etc. Strange you need to be so persistent in lying to make a point. Who should trust anything you post here? And, no, 2013 was not all TR’s fault as if this were hard wired into your brain. What’s more important than turnovers is the turnover/take-away margin, whether it’s positive and by how much. Take-aways are the job of the defense, right? How many take-aways were there in 2012 versus 2013? 2012 had 23/15 turnovers gained/lost (with 16 defensive INTs). 2013 had 17/17 turnovers gained/lost (3 fewer defensive INTs). Just two more turnovers last year than 2012, and total points scored virtually the same in the regular season between 2012 and 2013. And time of possession? Isn’t that the result of the team’s offensive scheme dictated by BK? Really, Pume, how run oriented was BK last season compared to 2012? You really need to study up on your football, Pume.

    Blasts from the past hardly showing that I had unbounded, crazy, pie in the sky set of expectations for TR, seconded none other than by Nude.

    knuterocknesghost – Aug 16, 2013 at 12:52 PM
    Nude: No…. I am nowhere near saying he’s [TR’s] at Montana’s level, most importantly in terms of mental toughness and having an instinctive feel for the game as a play develops on the field. …………. I think quarterbacks in college who are very good right out of high school are those with a lot of swagger and self confidence. Call it cockiness. I think that was the case with Johnny Manziel and also Montana as his career developed in college. Montana’s been written to have been angry (not disappointed, but angry) at his head coaches for not letting him start, be it Devine and even in the case of Bill Walsh. To me that’s a sign that he “knew” he was the best. I think TR lacks that kind of swagger.

    nudeman – Aug 16, 2013 at 1:03 PM
    Good points. I have suspended my TR bashing and am hoping for a great year from him.

    knuterocknesghost – Aug 13, 2013 at 11:02 PM
    TR doesn’t need to be an NFL Hall Famer for ND to have a very good season. He needs to show that his mental part of the game has matured in the last 2 years from when he was 19. And I hope he’s able to show us that.

  13. irishpuma - Feb 13, 2014 at 3:02 AM

    Knute get a life buddy. I don’t lie, I don’t care enough too. And no I don’t save any conversation on here as this is just a blog for fans, let alone saving anything you wrote as your take is usually quite asinine. I am glad you have all of your greatest works saved though that is precious. With all of your overseas business activity I am shocked you have the time to chronicle your blog postings from 7 months ago. Hats off to your time management, organization, and multitasking. Doc Rivers would be proud son.

    So you were quiet all season what happened? TR impressed you beyond your wildest dreams so you felt no need to gloat and tell us how right you are? That does not sound like you at all. Oh wait that is probably why you were silent hiding out crushed by your heroes lack of performance once again so you waited until the horror story was over but you just can’t let go buddy. lol.

    8-4 buddy, what exactly is your point. Even his biggest fans admit he was terrible, regression, no progression, any other opinion and you are just being a stubborn jackass afraid to admit your wrong. Move on Knute, or how about some intelligent talk about the actual team going forward. I think we have a walk on undersized, short on skills QB you can start banging the drum for as the next Tom Brady, Montana, etc….of course you never said any of that either right??

    • nudeman - Feb 13, 2014 at 10:35 AM

      Funny, I took a break from the board for about a month and I come back and there is still Rees stuff.
      He’s Lazarus, John Wayne, Methuselah and the most interesting man in the world, all in one.
      He’s also a really bad quarterback. REAL bad.

      And the crap about “where would they be without him” was just that: CRAP
      Where would the have been without Z. Martin, TJ Jones, Jaylon Smith or Folston?

      Better question: Where were they WITH him?
      On a team that was loaded offensively, 8-4 with predictable losses to Stanf, Pitt, OK and UM.
      Led the NCAA in audibles, red zone timeouts and overall ineptitude.
      .
      But they made the Pinstripe Bowl.

      Just. Go. Away.
      And Knute, if you actually took the time to research prior posts, you need a life.

  14. irishpuma - Feb 15, 2014 at 1:11 AM

    Amen brother!

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