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Counting down the Irish: Others receiving votes

Aug 4, 2014, 1:35 PM EDT

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As we roll out this year’s rankings, it’s worth putting up a special post just for the players who just missed being ranked in our final composite ranking. With depth on this roster significant, and several unknown quantities expected to play big roles, quite a few players left off the Top 25 list will likely be a big contributor this season.

Let’s roll through the dreaded “others receiving votes” tally from this year’s proceedings.

 

2014 Irish Top 25 — Others Receiving Votes

 

Will Fuller, WR (Soph.): The sophomore receiver technically finished in a tie for 25th, but lost in a tiebreaker. Fuller has big-time potential as we saw last season when he led the Irish receiving corps with a beefy 26.7 yards per catch. He’s in the mix to start at wide receiver opposite DaVaris Daniels and will likely be more than just a human go route in 2014.

Highest Ranking: 14th. Lowest Ranking: Unranked (Six ballots).

– RECOUNT UPDATE — 

Fuller joins the Top 25 with the hard luck No. 26 spot now going to…

Romeo Okwara, DE (Jr.): Listed on every ballot but one, Okwara slid outside the Top 25 because he lacked any single voter projecting a high-upside season for the converted defensive end. I think that season is possible, but Okwara will need to show a nose for getting after the quarterback, something we haven’t seen in his two seasons at outside linebacker.

Highest Ranking: 20th. Lowest Ranking: Unranked (One ballot).

Elijah Shumate, S (Jr.): After an injury plagued sophomore season, Shumate fell outside the Top 25 after finishing at No. 24 last year. Physically, he’s arguably Notre Dame’s second most impressive safety, behind only Max Redfield. But Shumate enters training camp behind grad student Austin Collinsworth, and in need of recapturing the swagger he showed as a slot cornerback in 2012.

Highest Ranking: 15th. Lowest Ranking: Unranked (Five ballots).

 

Amir Carlisle, WR (Sr.): Carlisle fell out of the rankings after finishing No. 19 last season, the product of a disappointing 2013 season that saw him start the year as the team’s No. 1 running back but finish the season out of a job — and a position. After a good spring at slot receiver, we’ll see how Carlisle rebounds at a new position.

Highest Ranking: 15th. Lowest Ranking: Unranked (Six ballots).

 

Austin Collinsworth, S (GS): Even though Collinsworth has a starting job heading into training camp, there’s some skepticism surrounding his overall ability. (Hence a lower rating than Shumate.) His athletic deficiencies showed when C.J. Prosise blew around him during the Blue-Gold game for a big touchdown, but Collinsworth finished the 2013 season strong, and showed an early ability to adapt in Brian VanGorder’s defense.

Highest Ranking: 16th. Lowest Ranking: Unranked (Seven ballots).

 

Nyles Morgan, LB (Frosh): The freshman linebacker had the most votes from our panelists of those missing the Top 25, but they weren’t enough to slide inside the composite ranking. Morgan will battle Joe Schmidt and Jarrett Grace for time at middle linebacker, and is expected to see the field from the start this year. The Chicago native was one of the top linebacker recruits in the country.

Highest Ranking: 20th. Lowest Ranking: Unranked (Four ballots).

 

Mike McGlinchey, OT (Soph.): Currently penciled in at right tackle, all eyes will be on McGlinchey during fall camp, as he’s the current leader for the fifth spot on the offensive line, with four other starter jobs seemingly spoken for. At almost six-foot-8, McGlinchey has the length, size and athleticism you covet at tackle. With an upside that’s nearly unmatched, we’ll see if he’s ready to contribute in 2014.

Highest Ranking: 19th. Lowest Ranking: Unranked (Seven ballots).

 

Honorable Mention: WR C.J. Prosise (two votes), OT Quenton Nelson (two votes), LB Ben Councell (one vote), Eilar Hardy (one vote), LB Kendall Moore (one vote), WR Torii Hunter Jr. (one vote), S Matthias Farley (one vote), LB Jonathan Bonner (one vote), DE Jhonny Williams (one vote).

 

Our 2014 selection committee:

Pete Sampson, Irish Illustrated (@NDatRivals)
Tyler James, South Bend Tribune (@TJamesNDI)
Chris Hine, Chicago Tribune (@ChristopherHine)
Team OFD, One Foot Down (@OneFootDown)
Ryan Ritter, Her Loyal Sons (@HLS_NDTex)
JJ Stankevitz, CSN Chicago (@JJStankevitz)
John Walters, Medium Happy (@JDubs88)
John Vannie, ND Nation
Keith Arnold, NBC Sports (@KeithArnold)

  1. andy44teg - Aug 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM

    What? No Matt Fortuna?? Black-balled just b/c he works for the mother ship….whoever voted for Farley needs their voting privileges revoked!

  2. onward2victory - Aug 4, 2014 at 2:29 PM

    I’m super high on Amir Carlisle and Will Fuller. Both are dynamic athletes, fast and quick, and fuller has as good of ball skills as any receiver on the roster. Can’t wait to see opposing defenses try to keep up with these two guys!

  3. onward2victory - Aug 4, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    Also, does anyone know if UND will be posting practice videos from camp??

    • irishmob89 - Aug 4, 2014 at 3:20 PM

      My guess would be yes. They posted videos from the Spring so I’m certain they will post videos from Fall camp. I’m eager to see highlights of the quarterbacks.

    • bernhtp - Aug 4, 2014 at 7:12 PM

      Lots of video on the free sections of the services such as Irish Illustrated:

      https://notredame.rivals.com/

      • onward2victory - Aug 4, 2014 at 9:16 PM

        Nice thanks Bern.

        From the looks of that practice video, now that Rees is gone it seems that Coach Kelly doesn’t trust anyone to throw the football anymore and he’ll be taking over QB duties himself!

  4. liv4nd - Aug 4, 2014 at 4:11 PM

    Not a single vote for C Robinson???

    • dwp1991 - Aug 4, 2014 at 4:16 PM

      Probably means he’s in the Top 25 my man.

  5. oleolehey - Aug 4, 2014 at 4:49 PM

    Reviewers should include Mike Franks and some writers from Elkhart and Ft Wayne papers.

  6. notthatconfused - Aug 4, 2014 at 5:20 PM

    Don’t forget to include johngaltisstreaking. He can compare all Notre Dame players to SEC players. It’s a certain, shall we say, “special” perspective.

  7. nudeman - Aug 4, 2014 at 5:38 PM

    So the fact that Ishaq isn’t in the list of those who just missed means:

    1) He’s in the top 25; or …
    2) He REALLY missed (which would be correct)

    Seriously, how does anyone put him in the top 25?
    A 5 star guy who has had ZERO impact, has made ZERO memorable plays and for 4 straight years gets talked about as a guy who “the light might go on for”.

    If a tree falls in the forest with no one around does it make a noise?
    If Ishaq left the team tomorrow, would anyone notice?

    Rees at least gave everything he had.
    This guy acts like he’s saving something for the next game. Every game.
    This guy is a friggin’ BUST.

    • onward2victory - Aug 4, 2014 at 7:24 PM

      You just love to stir the pot don’t you Nude?

      • nudeman - Aug 4, 2014 at 8:45 PM

        Well wtf … would you like it if I came on here and said “BK is the greatest”, “I love Golson”,
        “13-0 Baby”, “we have the best DL in all CFB”, “the light will go on for Ishaq this year”, “Romeo will have 20 sacks by the ASU game” …. ???

        I suppose I could do that but there are enough others here to wave that flag
        Not my thing. I’m not a cynic but like a good argument

      • onward2victory - Aug 4, 2014 at 11:40 PM

        No offense intended my friend. The comments section is more entertaining with conversation catalysts like you, FNC, and johngalt. So carry on with your Rees/Ishaq bashing. I enjoy the debate.

    • bernhtp - Aug 4, 2014 at 9:46 PM

      Nude: Given the history, it’s not difficult to be very skeptical about Ishaq, who certainly has underperformed his 5-star rating. I understand your sentiment.

      With that said, the starting senior DE better be in the top 25 or the team is in a world of hurt, especially given the lack of depth and experience on the DL generally.

      I do expect Ishaq to be better this year. Not only is he a year more mature, but he will play in a position more natural to his abilities. He no longer will be in the shadow of Shembo, who was drafted in the NFL after all. He also doesn’t have a lot of competition unless someone really breaks through out of nowhere.

      Maybe it’s just wishful thinking, but we really need for Ishaq to take a few steps up or this defense likely won’t be very good.

      • nudeman - Aug 4, 2014 at 10:30 PM

        Agree completely. In fact all 22 starters better be in the top 25.

        Look, we’re just messing around here on this board. I have no axe to grind against Ishaq on any personal basis. He’s stayed out of trouble, no doubt is on track to graduate and I’m sure is a good young man.

        Tim Prister wrote a year ago when the topic of Ishaq playing DE was brought up, as it has been every year how difficult it would be for him or anyone weighing 260 to take on 300 lb+ OTs play after play. It’s hard to argue with that. Lynch was 260 and worthless against the run. So at that weight you’re a situational guy, a pass rush specialist and no more. And hey … maybe he’ll thrive in that role. Sure would be nice. ND hasn’t exactly excelled at rushing the passer the last few years.

  8. knuterocknesghost - Aug 5, 2014 at 1:23 AM

    The great thing about college football is the turnover forced by graduation. New faces come in, and it’s always interesting how the cream rises to the top. This can happen in a players first season, and for some veterans, in their last season. John Huarte never lettered before his Heisman Trophy year, his senior season in 1964. And how much of an impact had Jack Snow made before that season, who became the other end of that passing tandem that set new team records for ND in 1964? Of course, Ara was the new head coach who recognized their talents. When two-platoon football came back, Parseghian moved Snow out of the backfield where he started in 1963 to split end. Snow shed 15 pounds and the rest, as they say, is history.

    I think BK & Co. have been able to develop players in this era as demonstrated by the progression of NFL draft picks during BK’s tenure as head coach. So I expect that at two or three players, of whom no one has mentioned thus far for the top 25 players or who might never be named by Keith’s top 25 selection committee for this season, could very well burst upon the scene this year as a key members of the team. And no, I am not looking to defend IW.

    • knuterocknesghost - Aug 5, 2014 at 1:39 AM

      James Onwualu at LB?

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