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Torii Hunter Jr. sidelined with a groin injury

Aug 9, 2014, 1:02 PM EDT

Hunter Jr

Sophomore wide receiver Torii Hunter Jr. is expected to miss 4-6 weeks with a groin tear, Brian Kelly announced after practice on Saturday.

Hunter was not in uniform at Saturday’s practice and will begin therapy on an injury that will delay the young receiver’s debut a little bit longer. After redshirting as a freshman as he recovered from a leg break suffered at the Army All-American Bowl, Hunter impressed the Irish coaching staff during bowl practices last December.

Hunter is in a crowded mix for playing time at wide receiver, capable of playing both inside and out. He’ll undergo PRP (Platelet Rich Plasma) therapy to try and accelerate the healing, before returning sometime in September.

Linebacker Ben Councell and left guard Matt Hegarty also missed Saturday’s practice after suffering concussions, Kelly said. They are expected back with plenty of time to recover before opening the season against Rice on August 30.

  1. dickasman - Aug 9, 2014 at 1:05 PM

    I’m so glad I’ve never had a groin injury in my life other than the circumcision which I do not remember

    • rdw71 - Aug 9, 2014 at 1:53 PM

      Although it seems to have left you scarred…

      • dickasman - Aug 9, 2014 at 3:09 PM

        Oops I forgot about the pnis reduction surgery I had so I did have groin injury. How did u know about the scar? Did I bang you? Another unhappy customer imagine that.

    • jerseyshorendfan1 - Aug 10, 2014 at 3:05 PM

      When I saw the word groin in the headline, I naturally expected Mr. Asman to have the first comment. Well done, dick. Keep it up. (straight line provided free of charge).

    • 1historian - Aug 11, 2014 at 8:14 AM

      Thanks for sharing that with us

  2. bernhtp - Aug 9, 2014 at 1:25 PM

    While Hunter’s injury is certainly unfortunate, it is fully recoverable and comes in a position of great depth. I’m frankly more concerned about the concussions.

    • rdw71 - Aug 9, 2014 at 1:55 PM

      I’m glad they’re already hitting hard enough to cause concussions. By the time Rice comes to town, they’ll be SO ready to start hitting someone else!

      • dickasman - Aug 9, 2014 at 5:26 PM

        Rice rice baby ding diddy ding diddy diddy. Such funny name for college. ND win 69-0.

      • johngaltisspeaking - Aug 10, 2014 at 11:31 AM

        Oh crap we are doing predictions: Ill break it up into 3 different groupings:

        ND on par with SEC – ND 54 RICE 6

        ————————————————————–

        ND on ACC Level ND 36 Rice 10

        ————————————————————-

        ND (last year) ND 27 RICE 17

    • dickasman - Aug 9, 2014 at 5:57 PM

      Hi Bern. How are you? Hope all is well. I was thinking about you with all the influx of illegals down there. DO NOT RETIRE to Thailand. Obama still needs you. Since you’re there and it is what it is, please go down to the El Paso with a stopwatch and contact the ND admission office if you see anyone run sub 4.4. Don’t let Charlie Strong hook’em!!!

      • bernhtp - Aug 9, 2014 at 6:38 PM

        I’ve never been to our southern border. I’ve flown over it a bunch, but the closest I’ve been is probably San Diego.

        Old Charlie Strong is changing things here in Austin. Mack Brown’s country club atmosphere for the players is going bye bye. It will be interesting to see what happens, at least next year.

    • gtizzo - Aug 9, 2014 at 8:44 PM

      Seems this young man can’t catch a break.

  3. irishlad19 - Aug 9, 2014 at 1:46 PM

    Agree , concussions can end a player’s career.

    • dickasman - Aug 9, 2014 at 5:27 PM

      Oh really mr obvious. Is Obama not Jewish? Duhhhhhh

      • irishlad19 - Aug 9, 2014 at 8:53 PM

        Sorry I didn’t rise to your level of profound discourse.
        Idiot!

  4. fnc111 - Aug 9, 2014 at 4:13 PM

    With all the depth at WR that pretty much locks up two years in a row now that Hunter won’t play.

    • dickasman - Aug 9, 2014 at 5:58 PM

      It ain’t the Presidency my friend.

  5. johngaltisspeaking - Aug 9, 2014 at 5:11 PM

    OH JEEZ more non SEC Player Injuries plaguing the Irish Roster.

    • ndadvocate - Aug 11, 2014 at 10:26 AM

      Hunter was offered a scholarship by both Arkansas and Alabama…..try again.

  6. getsome99 - Aug 9, 2014 at 5:14 PM

    #5 or 6 on the depth chart with 4 years left? Take your time healing. It’s a long season.

    • dickasman - Aug 9, 2014 at 5:28 PM

      Get some I hope you don’t mean when I get that feelingggggg need dat sexual heaaaaaaaaalingggg, sexualllllllll heaaaaaaaalingggggg!

  7. johngaltsassisspeaking - Aug 9, 2014 at 6:19 PM

    We workout each others’ groins regularly in the SEC to prevent such injuries. When will BK learn?

    • gtizzo - Aug 10, 2014 at 10:22 PM

      HUH?! “workout each others groins”…I don’t want to know.

  8. johngaltsmom - Aug 9, 2014 at 8:25 PM

    I work out with the SEC every chance I get. If you know what I mean. Johnny likes to watch.

    • 1historian - Aug 11, 2014 at 8:20 AM

      jg is laughing as we speak because he has done such a good job of getting under the skin of enough of you that he doesn’t even have to comment – he just sits back and lets the rest of you make an inane comment for him.

      Very mature

      p.s. – Atlas Shrugged Pt. 3 is coming out next month.

  9. goirishgo - Aug 9, 2014 at 9:00 PM

    These lines of commentary are getting seriously tiresome.

    • tucsonfan - Aug 9, 2014 at 9:53 PM

      agreed–both dickasa nd jgaltiss need to go away. Nothing ever contributed, why anyone ever mentions or responds to them is beyond me. I skip through their posts and if I can see most of the string is them I just go to onefootdown where there is so much less of this junk

    • ndgoldandblue - Aug 10, 2014 at 8:09 AM

      I agree. What has happened to the comments section lately? Downward spiral.

    • johngaltisspeaking - Aug 10, 2014 at 11:34 AM

      These impersonations are becoming a waste of space… There is only one John Galt Lives all the others are just impostures.

      • getsome99 - Aug 10, 2014 at 12:56 PM

        I think we all know who the “imposture” is here, don’t we, Nude? Where is Paul Hargis by the way? And why only one troll at a time?

  10. yaketyyacc - Aug 10, 2014 at 6:24 AM

    While Hunter will recover, it is reassuring to know how much depth the Irish have. Go Irish, Crush Rice!

  11. johngaltisspeaking - Aug 10, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    From the player interviews this morning I think once again Brian K is way over his head.. They are trying to teach these kids way too complicated schemes. It seems like they are asked to learn this super complex defense which is just way too confusing. Even the Offense seems highly complex. After 4 years into the system our players still looked lost.. The key behind success in just about everything is keeping things simple. Urban and Saban both manage plays for each position and are taught via repetition to master those roles. Look at year 2 for Ohio State vs what we currently run. Its a night and day difference. Max R seems extremely disappointed at the level of sophistication of the this mind bending defensive and offensive scheme. I bet he is wishing he went to USC. Not sure this is going to produce big wins.

    • getsome99 - Aug 10, 2014 at 12:50 PM

      Nudman,

      You’re forgetting one very important thing. These players are also Notre Dame students. Meaning they’re 10x smarter than the kids who play for Urban, Saban, and USC. Those coaches have to keep it simple because most of the players can’t read past the 5th grade level, let alone a complex playbook.

      • johngaltisspeaking - Aug 10, 2014 at 1:01 PM

        BAH BAH BAH you honestly believe that don’t you ? The football IQ of these kids in the South is ten times what it is at ND. All they do all day is play football. Hell their education is watching film 5 days a week. The Football players for ND are borderline 2.5 kids which is great that ND takes them. But to say the football players at ND are smarter than a kids from Texas is just foolish. Its more of the elitesim – silver spoon mentality that I can’t stand about ND fans.

      • bearcatboy - Aug 10, 2014 at 10:10 PM

        Well kids from all over the country go to ND,including the south so I dont think what you’re saying makes sense (johnglat). Honestly, I’d say midwest kids play football all day and probably more so. People in the south are just lazy- this is from personal experience.

    • getsome99 - Aug 10, 2014 at 12:53 PM

      Sorry Nude. Didn’t mean to call you a Nud.

    • getsome99 - Aug 10, 2014 at 2:15 PM

      http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/07/us/ncaa-athletes-reading-scores/index.html?c=&page=1

      You think this applies to Notre Dame players? Notre Dame is the leader for academic excellence amongst football programs. Even higher than all 3 service academies. So yes, from top to bottom, Notre Dame players are smarter than the Texas kids. I guess by your definition, you’re either an elitist or a hater. Outsiders will never understand the greatness of Notre Dame, and the insiders could care less how much that pisses you off. We remain football independent for a reason. We’re in a class by ourself.

      • nudeman - Aug 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM

        First, I am not johngalt. I know you don’t believe that though, so let’s just move on.
        .
        Point I’d like to make is this: You wrote: “Notre Dame players are smarter than Texas kids”. Define “smart” please. To me it means Raw IQ with a reasonable dose of emotional maturity. To you ot apparently means “goes to class”.

        I would offer that ND players are “more diligent students” than TX, and maybe that’s simply because they have parents who see the value in an education. But just because they go to class and do things the right way doesn’t mean they’re “smarter”. Plenty of kids who go to these idiot programs (TX is hardly the worst) aren’t idiots themselves. They just chose an easier path.

      • getsome99 - Aug 10, 2014 at 3:01 PM

        It’s not just that they’re better students, they’re actually students. A college student who reads at a 5th grade is considered dumb. Maybe that’s not politically correct enough for you, but it is what it is. How many Notre Dame players do you think read at a 5th grade level?

        I had an earlier post that must have been censored for using the word b*******, but I did point out that Charlie Strong has been dismissing players left and right because these kids are thugs and not true student athletes. Not all Texas players are dumb. The article I pasted included Texas in the report and they even admit that they use a % of their scholarships on “high risk” kids. The preference is to keep this at a low % so not to put the entire program at risk. Do you really think Mack Brown’s players were forced to go to class? It takes a high level of self discipline to manage a football schedule and be a serious college student. The idiots who have been dismissed from the UT program don’t have that discipline. They just have a coach now that is implementing standards for his players that were never important before.

        Money has changed the way programs recruit. The south produces many superior athletes who in the past, we never even heard about because they dropped out of school before 10th grade. SEC coaches are identifying prospects in the junior high ranks now, so these same kids are being ushered through high school at a more frequent rate just so they can play college football. Coincidence that this SEC phenomena has only started in the past decade. We’re talking about a region of the country with the lowest academic standards and performance across the board, yet more elite football players are suddenly being produced from these states.

      • getsome99 - Aug 10, 2014 at 3:09 PM

        You left out the first part of my statement, which was “from top to bottom, Notre Dame players are smarter…” Which they are based on the grad rates. You’re not that smart if you get a free ride to a major university and fail to get your degree after spending 4 years there. No Texas players were drafted last year so what is the point for a smart kid to go to Texas and play football if he’s not even going to get his degree? What is this an easier path to? Underachieving at life? Your statements on this subject says a lot about you. You must be one of those underachievers since you have empathy for them. People who excel in life aren’t going to be dissuaded by slackers just because you call them elitists or holier than thou.

      • johngaltisspeaking - Aug 10, 2014 at 3:57 PM

        The days of educating student athletes is over. I have always said instead of trying to BS the public, schools should be allowed to just hire athletes to play and represent the school. Even for Notre Dame they wouldn’t have to worry about educating or tutoring up kids – aka giving them answers to pass classes. The new ruling on autonomy is going to give the power to do exactly that and I for one think its the best solution. Kids who want to learn should simply enroll as a student. If you want to take your shots at the NFL go to a college get paid and in 3 years try to make it in the NFL. At least we would not be pretending to hand out degrees to student athletes who we all know are not doing the work. Yes even at ND and Stanford.

      • getsome99 - Aug 10, 2014 at 4:06 PM

        So the best solution is to change the rules to accommodate the programs who can’t abide by them and still win? Typical SEC/USC mentality.

        How about if you want to get paid to play football but not have to go to class, join the CFL. Or the Arena league. If you want all the benefits and resources that a D1 program has to offer, you earn it through your performance in the classroom.

      • johngaltisspeaking - Aug 10, 2014 at 4:13 PM

        A degree does not guarantee success in the real world anymore. Unless you are going into a pre defined career such as medicine or law most degrees are worthless other than opening up the doors for opportunity. I have seen kids with drive who have high school degrees outperform college grads from top Universities. Its currently being debated whether or not a degree is even worth the money since education has become such a huge lucrative business model via Government Student loans. Dont get me wrong I understand ND is a good school and so are many others around the country. But the payoff might no longer be there anymore for kids when they start life with debt of 250k or in some cases 400 k +. So when you are talking about a degree at Alabama or even Texas not being as good as a degree from ND you are really talking out of your ass. Again I think it really depends on what you are doing but for the most part degrees are worth less now than they were 30 years ago. If we can continue down the socialist model a degree won’t mean anything… Thanks OBama

      • getsome99 - Aug 10, 2014 at 4:22 PM

        Whoaaa. I never said a degree from Alabama and Texas isn’t as good as a degree from ND. What I said was the kids playing for Alabama and Texas aren’t even getting their degrees. They’re also not playing in the NFL. So, what did you do for 4 years while your college tuition was completely paid for? If you didn’t get your degree, then you’re an idiot. Ask these same players 10 years down the road if they would have done it differently. Many of them are now blaming and suing their schools for enabling this behavior and not forcing them to also be students.

      • johngaltisspeaking - Aug 10, 2014 at 4:23 PM

        Academics and Athletics dont work. Why ? Because Schools have sold out for $$$$$. The NCAA has failed to do their job and now you have the majority of schools recruiting out of the ghetto to win and get the big pay day. The realty is the majority of football players are just not that smart. IE Demographics. So instead of sugar coating it with tutors and grad rates and pottery classes do away with all of it and hire kids to play for the schools team. You give them a choice do you want a free degree or do you want to split the proceeds earned via a trust. Alabama will have a full paid roster, Notre Dame might have a 50/50 split. Whatever it is its up to the school but at the end of the day its a fair playing field. Right now the game is just corrupt and we already know the SEC is going to win.

      • getsome99 - Aug 10, 2014 at 4:46 PM

        The $$$ issue only exists within the Power 5 conferences and ND. What your suggesting excludes almost half of the D1 programs in college football. You’re assuming that the Power 5 model will increase and maintain the popularity of college football, which is ultimately what drives revenue in the sport. We don’t know how sustainable these conference networks will be in the future. The Longhorn network is already in trouble, which could mean less revenue for UT football. The Big Ten network relies on other sports to fill out their programming schedule. How much of that revenue should go to the women’s volleyball or hockey programs? How much. These conference networks can’t find enough subscribers to justify the dollars they’re paying each school. Especially if we’re now paying 100 football and basketball players a professional athletes salary. That’s why the Big Ten is adding teams like Maryland and Rutgers so they can tap in to wider audience. But do those two schools bring enough customers to justify their cut? Schools like Indiana, Minnesota, and Purdue? $20M+ per year and they bring what to the table? Big 12 schools rely on alumni and private donors to keep up with the SEC and Big 10. Seems it would be just as easy to launch a TV network and pay the conference $300M per year. I just don’t see the demand long term.

      • johngaltisspeaking - Aug 10, 2014 at 5:28 PM

        The bottom line is Bill Snyder is alone in this fight. Academics don’t play a role in todays college athletes and with the power that has been given to the schools and conferences I don’t see it getting better. If I had it my way you could fix CFB with a few simple steps. The NFL would require a 4 year degree if you’re coming from college and there would be regular testing of all athletes. The entire SEC would fall apart and they would become the worst conference in the country. Oklahoma would be wiped from the map. Of course this would never happen because its not fair to the kids who are athletically talented yet are too dumb to even be in High School. But whatever there are bigger problems in this country other than CFB.

      • 4horsemenrideagain - Aug 11, 2014 at 10:02 AM

        i’ll weigh in only to respond to the suggestion that Bill Snyder is some kind of voice in the wilderness on the issue of academic integrity. take a look at KSU’s GSR and then ask yourself exactly how concerned Snyder is with academics.

        what’s next, John Calipari lecturing the4 NCAA on the commercialization of student athletes?

      • johngaltisspeaking - Aug 11, 2014 at 10:27 AM

        Nobody is going to care that ND thinks grad rates stink ….. Now that you have Big 12 and SEC supporters you are going to see more traction. But I agree the Big 12 has some terrible grad rates.

  12. mikes1160 - Aug 10, 2014 at 12:50 PM

    “The key behind success is keeping things simple” Brilliant John Galt. Did Ayn Rand say that? Or your imaginary girlfriend?

  13. fnc111 - Aug 10, 2014 at 5:47 PM

    johngaltisforgy

    • johngaltisspeaking - Aug 10, 2014 at 8:19 PM

      Kappy out of NFL. Another bites the dust.

  14. irishmob89 - Aug 10, 2014 at 8:19 PM

    What a surprise, John has once again been on this site all day. John, if you knew anything about the x’s and o’s of football, you would know that Urban Meyer’s offense is anything but “simple”. The past four years, Kelly hasn’t even run his actual offense. He adjusted it to fit the personnel he had and the offense still managed to score 27 points per game which isn’t great, but still miraculous considering Rees was the quarterback. He’s finally going to run the offense he ran at Cincinnati and Grand Valley State this season so be ready to see the Irish rack up 40 points per game or more this season. I’m sure you agree with me since we have “SEC talent” in the backfield. As an Irish fan, I bet you’re really excited to see Notre Dame score at will against our rival U$C and their slow overrated defense.

    • johngaltisspeaking - Aug 10, 2014 at 8:41 PM

      I am an Irish fan… And yes can’t wait to see ND bet up on everyone.

  15. irishlad19 - Aug 10, 2014 at 9:10 PM

    These ND threads are becoming polluted by silly talk by pseudo-Irish fans who are here to try to play with ND fan’s minds.
    Ignore them, try to comment and respond to rational commentary.

    • bearcatboy - Aug 10, 2014 at 10:42 PM

      I’m not a big thread poster guy so I don’t understand the dynamics at play in this forum or any comment section for that matter…. but let me get this strait. There are people who come read ND articles on a ND site who are not ND fans and post in the comment section below, often times pretending to be ND fans themselves?

      • papadec - Aug 11, 2014 at 1:25 AM

        bcb – Sad – but true. We call them trolls.

      • irishlad19 - Aug 11, 2014 at 6:00 AM

        You got it; their goal apparently is to stir the pot with irrelevant, sometimes vulgar, comments.

  16. nudeman - Aug 10, 2014 at 10:58 PM

    getsome/knute
    Maybe just stfu for a while and put down the keyboard.
    You’re back to you thing where you reply to the replies of your reply

    You’re very clever
    Except that … you’re not

    There is not a single thing you’ve written that is enlightening or interesting.
    Ever

    Just stick to commenting on the 2 back set vs. the empty backfield
    No one will respect what you have to say there either, but it will be less obnoxious

    Then again, if you’re writing it … no it won’t

    • getsome99 - Aug 11, 2014 at 1:15 AM

      Was I even talking to you? Oh yeah, I guess I was.

  17. irishlad19 - Aug 11, 2014 at 8:50 AM

    I guess we cagn also ignore you from here on out.

  18. blackirish23 - Aug 11, 2014 at 9:16 AM

    Wow!! Seeing 57 comments next to an injury article on Torii Hunter led be to believe I was about to read some well intended comments hoping for a speedy recovery for a very talented athlete. Instead, it’s a bunch of BS from a troll and responses to said troll, and ONLY FOUR comments wished the young man well. Not to be sanctimonious but that is shameful.

    Here’s to wishing Torii Hunter well, and like “Getsome99″ mentioned, he still has lots of eligibility left so there’s no need to rush back.

    I truly wish the season were already here as most of these comments seem to be out of sheer boredom and nothing else. At least once the season starts, most of these comments will be football related….. I hope!!

  19. bernhtp - Aug 11, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    This entire thread is Keith’s fault. Instead of new articles analyzing Saturday’s practice report, talking about Kelly’s press conference, discussing the implications of the O’Bannon decision, or anything else of substance, he let the forum languish and be taken over by the trolls and other misfits.

    Keith: shame, shame.

    • papadec - Aug 11, 2014 at 2:09 PM

      Awwww bern – cut him some slack. Keith is trying to finish the player profiles, and he took time to throw in the Top 25. The trolls will be trolls – regular season, and/or pre-seaon.

      • papadec - Aug 11, 2014 at 2:11 PM

        oooooops – pre-season. Gotta fix that before hist gets on my case.

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