New Era Pinstripe Bowl - Rutgers v Notre Dame

ASU Mailbag: Here comes the sun


With an early flight to Phoenix and a kickoff at a little after 1 p.m. local time, let’s hammer out a Friday evening mailbag. Some interesting questions that I hope delivered some satisfactory answers.

Here goes:

@drewbrennan77: Looking at ASU, in your opinion, who is their best sports alum: Jake the Snake Plummer, Phil Mickelson or Pat Tilman?

I think it’s Pat Tillman… and then everybody else. (He might be my favorite athlete of all time.) You should probably look at the baseball program for other notable alums, too.


danirish: Look into the crystal ball – Nyles Morgan – great game or goat? Seems like everyone is getting to play on defense – when do we see Jon Bon Jovi’s son play?

I’m excited to see Morgan play. Not sure how he’ll do, but I don’t think he’ll be a goat. He’ll have some struggles, but he’s an athletic, playmaking kid who won’t be swallowed by the moment. And he’s going to make one or two “wow” plays.

As for Bongiovi. Don’t hold your breath. I believe he suffered a knee injury and was lost for the season, though he wasn’t likely to see the field healthy or not.


subalum: If you’re BK how do you attack ASU? Ground and pound with the new found running game trying to keep the defense off of the field? Or go for the big plays like UCLA did and score quickly?

I think controlling the tempo of the game will be key, especially with the Irish needing to protect their defense. I’d do my best to establish a running game, but also try and take some shots down the field. Golson will need to be sharp, but it’ll be interesting if the Sun Devils decide to blitz Golson or force to keep him in the pocket.

Some outside opinions still seem to think the best game plan is forcing Golson to stay in the pocket and beat you with his arm. He can do that without a problem, just ask Michigan. I think putting pressure on him is your best bet and to try and confuse him.

(Could you fault Kelly for trying to take elements of last year’s game plan? Tommy Rees led the Irish in a shootout win.)


padomer: In trying to gauge the talent on this ND team, i was wondering if you could compile an “All-Pro” or “All-Star” team with us and every other team on our schedule as a player pool.

I’m punting this to being an offseason project. Just too tough of a question without having a few hours to dig into it. Try me in February with this.


dudeacow: Are Nelson, Brent, Watkins, and Holmes using a redshirt season, or have they played enough to have used a season of eligibility?

Quenton Nelson is redshirting. Nick Watkins isn’t. I’d guess Brent and Holmes will save a year of eligibility, not seeing the field though traveling for much of the second-half of the season.


atlantairish84: Keith, does a win over a top-10 team move Notre Dame ahead of teams like MSU and TCU that don’t have as good of wins?

Maybe Michigan State, though if they beat Ohio State convincingly, that does quite a bit for them, too. As for TCU, it depends on how you view their schedule. A big win over Oklahoma, a tough loss to Baylor. But this weekend against Kansas State will likely propel one of those Big 12 teams to their highest ranking of the year and send the other one tumbling down boards.

Trying to figure this stuff out will drive you mad. ND just can’t get caught up in watching the weekly rankings. There are just too many tough games left to play.


1notredaefan: I have been under the impression when watching some CFB teams play this year that there has been a form of communication device in the helmet (speaker). Have you heard anything about this? Was Schmidt that vastly superior to listening/looking for hand signals?

There is no communication system in helmets at the college level. But if that was a subtle setup for taking a dig/cracking a joke about Schmidt or his abilities to relay plays, I think you might be oversimplifying things a bit.

Schmidt’s skill isn’t being a wind talker or understanding VanGorder’s code. It’s being able to process every element of the defense and make sure not just that he’s in position, but the other linebackers and the defensive linemen in front of him are, too.


indyirish91: It appears to me that the playoff committee is going to adjust their weekly rankings to affect each week’s match ups. For instance, moving ASU to #9 this week when they’ll face the #10 Irish. Do you agree or disagree? It seems they can manipulate the importance of each matchup down the stretch.

The weekly announcement is a made-for-TV spectacle that I can’t take seriously. I’m not sure what the point is, other than to fuel a week of debate and make Jeff Long look silly.

I’m convinced that at the end of this process, all the factors will be taken into consideration and the committee will get it as close to right as possible. Until then? The yoyo’ing feels more than a little contrived.


idratherbeinsouthbend: ASU gets a number of on field contributions from JUCO transfers. I know Notre Dame doesn’t allow JUCO transfers, but does anybody know WHY? Do they allow JUCO transfers for NON-Football players or Non-athletes? If a JUCO player has the chops to get admitted to Notre Dame, why is it not allowed?

I don’t think the university has a hard-and-firm “No Juco rule” like you’re stating, but I do think that it’s tremendously difficult to transfer in to Notre Dame, especially if you’ve begun your college career at a junior/community college. The core curriculum at a two-year college just doesn’t often fit with where transfer athletes need to be when trying to fit into the process at Notre Dame, and that’s likely the biggest reason Notre Dame doesn’t attract them. (Nor does the football program need to…)

ASU isn’t the only school to get contributions from junior college athletes. Bill Snyder built K-State around finding talent from the JuCo level. Charlie Weis tried to at Kansas and failed miserably.There are risks and rewards to that style of recruiting. So if a rare junior college player has a way to make it work academically at Notre Dame, I’m not sure why he wouldn’t get that shot.


yaketyyacc:Keith, don’t you think the playoffs are happening now? with the matchups this weekend alone, several teams will be eliminated or advanced. do you think pollsters have finally matured by adding the “jump over” to determine who ranks what? Do you think there are too many factors used by the committee to determine rank, thus complicating an already murky method of assessment?

The next few weeks will serve as eliminate games. Alabama loses to LSU? Seeya. K-State and TCU? Only one survives. Same with this game.

For as worried as we all get about being left out, factor in the Egg Bowl, the Iron Bowl, and not to mention the conference championship games, and this will all sort itself out.


4horsemenrideagain: Any idea about whether Pat Eilers is still providing consulting services to the secondary, or what his role has consisted of since he took it on? How much credit for the secondary’s somewhat surprising performance is attributed to Eilers?

Eilers is still working with the team as Kyle McCarthy battles cancer. I think Eilers is likely doing a very good job, but you might be a little ahead of yourself for giving the former ND and NFL player, and current private equity banker now on sabbatical, any of the main credit. From what I’m told, Eilers has been a great guy on the administrative end, working in a support capacity more than coaching technique on the field.

That’s not to take away from anything he’s doing. What a fantastic opportunity for Eilers to return to the school he loves and I’m sure Brian Kelly is grateful to have his experience inside the coaches room.

ylilbnosredna: Keith, % wise, how healthy is Jarron Jones (to your knowledge)?

?% At this time of year, nobody is 100% healthy. But Jones will find a second wind and close this season out strong.


ndcanuck: If the Irish lose Saturday following yet another Navy “hangover” (a costly win that gains nothing with the committee) will ND start to consider moving away from the long time rivalry game?

This game isn’t going anywhere.

Kelly goes back to basics with defense

SOUTH BEND, IN - SEPTEMBER 10: Head coach Brian Kelly of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish reacts in the first half of the game against the Nevada Wolf Pack at Notre Dame Stadium on September 10, 2016 in South Bend, Indiana. (Photo by Joe Robbins/Getty Images)

Brian Kelly met with the media on Tuesday, revealing a few details about the defensive changes he plans to implement. And while he kept any specific schematic or personnel tweaks to himself, his comments helped clarify why he made the decision to relieve Brian VanGorder of his duties Sunday morning.

At the second inflection point of his tenure in South Bend, Kelly is once again betting on himself. We saw him do this to great success after he made the unconventional decision to name Chuck Martin his offensive coordinator after the 2011 season—betting on his protege instead of Ed Warinner, who then left to go to Ohio State after being passed up.

That’s not to say this move has the ceiling of Kelly’s last great pivot—an undefeated regular season that ended with a date in the national title game. You could just as easily argue it’s a survival play.

So perhaps that’s why Kelly was less interested in defining what Greg Hudson’s new job title means, and more resolute on clarifying that this defense will operate the way the head coach sees fit.

“He’s going to adapt to what I want to run. His style is going to be Coach Kelly’s style,” Kelly explained.

“I’ll worry about the implementation, the scheme. I’ll take care of that for him right now. As he gets more comfortable with what we have and what our system is about, then he will be much more involved in what we do.

“But right now, we’ll write the music and he’ll be the lead singer. I don’t know if that’s a great analogy, if that makes any sense. He’s going to be out front, but he just got here. In terms of assuming this role, he’s learning everything as well.”

For those worried that the Irish head coach was shirking responsibility for his team’s 1-3 start, Kelly certainly is acting like a coach who is doing the opposite. He’s doubling down, and in doing so, acknowledging some of the fatal flaws that became exposed each and every game Brian VanGorder continued to coach.

The head coach will simplify game plans, asking his young team to do less but do it better. The staff will learn from the opening night debacle in Texas, a game plan that stressed scheme over personnel, a decision that was largely emblematic of how VanGorder handled his time in South Bend.

“We can’t defend everything. We can’t defend everything, but we have to be sound,” Kelly said. “I’ll leave it at that.”

Kelly’s other major move will be developing a better rotation. After seven recruiting cycles, the roster has a deeper talent pool than VanGorder was willing to access. And for all the talk of sub-packages and defensive specialization, Kelly sounded like a coach who knew he needed to take things back to the basics.

“I can’t have 15 different personnel packages. We’ve got a couple personal packages. That’s it,” Kelly said. “There can’t be cross-training into three different personnel packages. We’ve streamlined that to the point where the guys are going to know by hopefully Thursday exactly where they fit in each group.”

With just days to prepare a defense that’s already at rock bottom, implementing any gigantic scheme change was always out of the question. But in looking for a new identity, Kelly also acknowledged some of the breaking points that forced him to make the change.


Even in transition, Babers expects Notre Dame’s best

SYRACUSE, NY - SEPTEMBER 02: Amba Etta-Tawo #7 of the Syracuse Orange pulls in a touchdown reception as Cortney Mimms #26 of the Colgate Raiders defends during the first quarter on September 2, 2016 at The Carrier Dome in Syracuse, New York. (Photo by Brett Carlsen/Getty Images)

Notre Dame’s defense is starting fresh with Greg Hudson, at least temporarily, at the helm. But Syracuse head coach Dino Babers doesn’t expect the instability to lead to a weakened opponent.

In fact, he thinks it’ll have the opposite effect.

“What normally happens in those situations is just like in a cowboy movies you circle the wagons and you find out who wants to fight and who doesn’t want to fight,” Babers said Monday. “So we’re going to get an angry mama bear that’s been wounded, that’s going to be fighting and clawing and coming out with all they have, and really wish they wouldn’t had done anything and wish they would have won the game last week.”

But the Irish didn’t win against Duke. And Brian Kelly’s decision to remove Brian VanGorder of his duties after just four games leads Notre Dame’s young defense into some uncharted territory.

Because the Irish will have to find a way to slow down a Syracuse offense that might not have as good of personnel as Texas, but is better at running the up-tempo, spread attack that the Longhorns installed this offseason. And Babers comes from the same Art Briles coaching tree that Sterlin Gilbert.

So Notre Dame will need to find a way to tackle receivers in space. And they’ll need to find a way to get an offense off the field that’s run more plays than every team in college football but three.

While Kelly promised both personnel and scheme changes, what can be done in a week remains to be seen. But with the Irish offense going up against a defense that’s actually worse statistically in every major category than Notre Dame’s, finding any success on the defensive side of the ball will be key.

The good, the bad, the ugly: Notre Dame vs. Duke

SOUTH BEND, IN - SEPTEMBER 24:  Anthony Nash #83 of the Duke Blue Devils runs for a touchdown during the second half of a game against the Notre Dame Fighting Irish at Notre Dame Stadium on September 24, 2016 in South Bend, Indiana.  (Photo by Stacy Revere/Getty Images)

Sunday’s move was emphatic. Brian VanGorder’s departure confirms that a 1-3 record is unacceptable. And the demise of this team was as swift as the departure of a colleague Brian Kelly has known for the bulk of his 25-plus year coaching career.

But that’s the job. And the move likely wasn’t easy for a head coach who saw himself as close to tenured as any man this side of Lou Holtz had been, and is now clearly in uncharted territory.

“I’m under review, as well,” Kelly acknowledged on Sunday afternoon. “We’re all in this together: All the players, coaches, everybody. So players’ jobs are on the line. Every job is being evaluated as the players. All coaches’ jobs are on the line as well.”

With Greg Hudson now directing the defense, and Syracuse having run more offensive plays than every program but three, the challenge this weekend is stark. So let’s move forward ourselves and finish off the good, the bad and the ugly.



Dexter WilliamsBrian Kelly gave him credit, so let’s start there. Williams ran hard, looked explosive and flashed on special teams.

It’s time for Williams to get some more reps, even if it means taking away from Josh Adams’ leading load as well as Tarean Folston‘s.


Donte Vaughn. Notre Dame’s freshman cornerback wasn’t perfect—he got beat inside a few times on slant routes that everybody in the building saw coming. But he came up big and made a play, something Notre Dame’s defensive backs haven’t done since Shaun Crawford went down for the season.

His length and cover skills should be put to the test again next weekend when Syracuse’s Amba Etta-Tawo looks to replicate his monster 270-yard performance against UConn. The focus will be on Cole Luke, Vaughn, Julian Love and Nick Coleman.


Kevin Stepherson. The freshman only caught three balls, but all of them were big gainers,  including his beautiful 44-yard touchdown catch. With Torii Hunter unable to push the lid off opponents, Stepherson might be a better fit for the X moving forward, assuming he continues to learn the playbook and run precise routes.


The Weather. Looked like a heckuva day in South Bend, at least from a weather perspective.



The tackling. That was one of the worst tackling performances I can remember. Especially against a team that was anemic on offense heading into the weekend. Name a defender and you’ll recall a missed tackle.

Drue Tranquill held on to a few early, then had some ugly whiffs. Cole Luke, a guy Brian Kelly called the team’s smartest football player last week, sure looked lost a few times, too. And with hopes that Devin Studstill is the answer at free safety, Studstill did his best to make us wonder about that, too. He took some horrific routes to footballs, a difficult day at the office for a young kid who needs to learn quickly.

When your senior captain outside linebacker is getting run over by a quarterback for a first down and you’re thinking, “at least he made the tackle,” the bar has been lowered pretty significantly. But another week of “thudding” at practice might be needed—even with heavy installation coming soon.


The special teams. A missed field goal proved costly. So did some horrific tackling and coverage on the kickoff return that let Duke back into the game. And for the fourth time this season, Tyler Newsome flubbed his first kick of the game. (All but asking for the nickname Mulligan to emerge.)

Scott Booker has a ton of kids on his run teams. But they’ve got to get some consistency out there if they want CJ Sanders to help turn this into a positive, not another unit to hide.


The pass rush. Yes, the drought is over, with Nyles Morgan getting the first sack of the season for the Irish. But man—this team has a gigantic hole on it and finding any type of pass rush is critical.

Sure, Duke’s quick passing game took advantage of the Irish’s leaky secondary and didn’t let Notre Dame get to the quarterback. But at this point, every snap you’re giving Andrew Trumbetti over a kid who can get to the quarterback—Jay Hayes, Daelin Hayes, Khalid Kareem, or anyone—feels lost.


The coaching. Kelly raised more than a few eyebrows when he said the following, when asked about an evaluation of his defensive coaching and game plan.

“That’s probably the one area that I feel better about today. We did what I wanted today in terms of coaching. And coaching had nothing to do with the outcome today,” Kelly said.

That was likely a time-buyer until a long night of thinking, because morning brought clarity for the head man.



The State of the Program. With the game tied 28-28 heading into the fourth quarter, one team was jumping around like they’d won the lotto. The other was all but biting their fingernails, kicking dirty and looking lethargic.

If anything set off Kelly postgame—even more so than the defense his troops were displaying—it was the lack of effort.

“There’s no passion for it. It looks like it’s hard to play. Like we’re pulling teeth,” Kelly said. “You’re playing football for Notre Dame. It looks like it’s work. Last I checked they were getting a scholarship to play this game.

“There’s no fun, there’s no enjoyment, there’s no energy. We got to look for the guys that want to have fun and play this game with passion and energy and that’s where we got to go.”

In Kelly’s first few seasons in South Bend, he was criticized for having his team celebrate victories, even the ugly ones. But somewhere this program lost track of the ultimate goal and that likely falls on the head coach to fix that problem as soon as possible.


Firing a staffer. Notre Dame’s head coach likely saw what many of us saw as well. But a decision like that from the cheap-seats is one thing, a decision from inside the program is another.

Follow Notre Dame long enough, and you’ll tire of thinking about the carousel that’s come and gone—Davie, O’Leary, Willingham, Weis, armies of loyal assistants who have spent years working to climb the summit. And for most, life after Notre Dame isn’t the same.

Sure, there’s Urban Meyer, Dan Mullen and Charlie Strong. But there are a few dozen others who have come to a program with noble ambitions—willing to do it right and win on and off the field—but they fail too often on Saturdays.

So as ND Nation almost united in celebration of the move, it’s worth a quick word to a fanbase that always fashions itself as possessing proper etiquette.

Few come to your office and celebrate the worst day of your professional career. Less dig into your family’s Twitter account, hoping to break a story or confirm news they celebrate jubilantly. Sure, some of that comes with the territory. And certainly VanGorder was well compensated for his time in South Bend.

But ultimately, this Sunday hopefully provided some perspective. Baseball lost one of its brightest young stars. Golf lost one of its icons. And many many more things of consequence took place—inside the sporting world and out.

But when it comes to VanGorder, a quick reminder of something that has nothing to do with sports. A man has lost his job. A family will uproot once again. And the dynamics on the current football team—where Montgomery VanGorder still plays an important role—won’t ever be the same.

“I will tell you this: Brian is as fine a defensive coach as there is out there. He knows the game. He loves Notre Dame,” Kelly said on Sunday. “He wanted to succeed as much as anybody here, but it wasn’t working.”

There should be no harm in that.

VanGorder out as defensive coordinator

05 September 2015:  Notre Dame Fighting Irish defensive coordinator Brian VanGorder stands with his players in action during a game between the Notre Dame Fighting Irish and the Texas Longhorns at Notre Dame Stadium in South Bend, IN. (Icon Sportswire via AP Images)

Brian VanGorder has been fired. Notre Dame’s third-year defensive coordinator was relieved of his duties after just four games.

Brian Kelly made the move official Sunday morning, less than an hour before his weekly Sunday teleconference. He’s replaced VanGorder with defensive analyst Greg Hudson, a former Notre Dame linebacker who joined the Irish staff in June and spent the last three seasons as defensive coordinator at Purdue, a position he also held at East Carolina and Minnesota. The rest of the defensive staff remains unchanged.

“Obviously, this is a difficult day for our coaching staff, but I’m excited and honored about the opportunity that Coach Kelly has afforded me,” Hudson said in the team’s statement. “We’ve got to improve on defense, without a doubt, and I’m confident that we will. We have great student-athletes and a tremendous defensive coaching staff. I can’t wait to get started with our group.”

The VanGorder era ends with the Irish ranked 101st in scoring defense, 96th in rushing defense and 87th in pass defense. The Irish are dead last in sacks, the last FBS team to get one when Nyles Morgan finally got the team’s first sack against Duke.

Hired after Bob Diaco left Notre Dame for the head job at UConn, VanGorder brought with him an NFL system and a multiple, attacking scheme. But after injuries derailed his first season, it was a defense best known for its maddening inconsistency, with even last season’s talented outfit plagued by the big play and mistakes.

As late as Saturday night Kelly pledged allegiance to his defensive coordinator, calling the staff’s game plan the least of his concerns after the 38-35 loss.

“We did what I wanted today in terms of coaching. And coaching had nothing to do with the outcome today. I was pleased from that perspective,” Kelly said.