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Postseason Mailbag: The ‘Moving Forward’ edition

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We’ll find out over the weekend where Notre Dame will go bowling. Until then, let’s dig into the mailbag.

 

NotreDan:

Here are ND’s rivals recruiting class rankings:

2014: #11
2013: #3
2012: #20
2011: #10

Here are TCU’s

2014: #50
2013: #30
2012: #37
2011: #26

Please explain the obvious question.

You mean, “How did TCU go 4-8 last year, with wins against just SE Louisiana, SMU, Iowa State and Kansas?”

Or, “How do men who watch primarily YouTube clips of high school football stars formulate objective rankings?”

Just kidding. How about the, “How come Notre Dame does so well in recruiting rankings but not necessarily on the field?”

I get your point. I really do. But you’re also likely part of the faction that complains when Notre Dame signs low-three star prospects like Will Fuller and Corey Robinson, but loves it when they turn into elite players.

The 2011 class won’t be what we thought it was, mostly because of injuries and attrition. But give up on the other classes at your own risk. I tend to think that 2013 group is going to lead this program to great heights, even if this year still stings.

 

schuey73: If Redfield is out of the bowl game, who is going to play Safety with Shumate? Hardy? Farley? Riggs?

Good question. Depending on Redfield’s injury, it’s likely going to be Shumate and Hardy, with perhaps… Matthias Farley filling in? (Even though he’s the team’s best nickel back.)

I don’t expect Cody Riggs to play another game for the Irish. I just think it’s too risky, considering that the next important rep he takes as a football player will be either at his Pro Day or the NFL Scouting Combine.

This position is in a bad, bad place from an injuries perspective. They’ll need to figure something out, maybe even support from John Turner, but getting Shumate up to speed should be first priority.

 

@LaFontaine12: Is there a chance Alford may go to CSU?

There’s a chance. And it sure would be great to see him get a shot.

For as important as Alford is to Notre Dame and their recruiting efforts, he’s a coach that deserves an opportunity to run a program and is the rare non-coordinator who has the people skills and leadership to be a great head coach.

And I’m not the only guy who thinks so.

 

cajunirish: Who starts in the bowl game, EG or MZ. I for one would like to see what MZ can do with a whole game. 

Where have we gone wrong with player development? Seems that we realize surprisingly little of the potential that we talk about in our recruits.

I have a feeling just about every fanbase feels that way about the recruits they sign. Mostly because we spend months and months in the offseason talking about these guys.

If you have joined the camp of “Brian Kelly doesn’t develop his players,” you’ve jumped off a cliff after a decade-plus of data suggesting he’s one of the best in the country at doing so.

There’s no doubt that Everett Golson regressed down the stretch, with his passive play against USC the worst football he exhibited all season.

I’d want to take the bowl game and play both of them — because evaluating Zaire when he was playing a USC defense with a 35-point lead isn’t exactly an apples to apples comparison. (When the Trojans decided to bring heat, they stopped Zaire, too.)

There’s no better way to go into spring than with both Golson and Zaire feeling like they have a chance to win a job. I think it’s great for the competitive situation.

Kidding with NotreDan aside, recruiting rankings are sometimes really unfair to players, especially guys like Greg Bryant and Max Redfield, two players tabbed with the “five-star” label, but kids that need time to develop. Now they’ll enter Year 3 at a time when they should be making their move to stardom, not feeling like they’ve already failed.

When you play freshmen, you get freshmen results. We saw that down the stretch, in all its ugliness. Even if Nyles Morgan was making 10 tackles a game he was still in the wrong place and missed a dozen more.

That’s player development. And I’m guessing that’ll be more of an emphasis this spring than in years past. But the struggles this season will help next year.

sfnd: 

Keith, Please imagine yourself in another’s shoes. What are the 3 most important concerns / questions regarding the ND football program if you are :

A. Jack Swarbrick

B. Brian Kelly

C. A top high school recruit

For Swarbrick:
1. Are we still making progress?
2. Is the backslide because of on-field woes or foundational issues?
3. Make sure I’ve got an updated list of replacements for every head coaching job on campus, football included.

For Brian Kelly:
Just read this again.

For recruits:
1. Can I make the NFL?
2. Will I get my degree?
3. What kind of gear am I wearing?

 

fwirish: do you think it will really be an open competition for the position next year?

Sure do. Because Kelly had a lot of people believing last year’s competition was real, and I never for one minute thought Zaire even had a chance.

To answer a sub-question, I think it’s a two-man race, with Kizer having to fight his way into the conversation and Wimbush likely trying to drink from the firehose.

In many ways, Golson’s struggles paired with Zaire’s comfort in the spotlight will mean that Kelly will hopefully be able to elevate the play of both players and also challenge them to compete harder, if only because there’s no fear if one goes down that the other can’t keep up.

The position is healthy. Unfortunately, we had to watch Golson continue to stub his toe to get to this point.

 

irish1958: Keith, Everybody knows Saban is a great coach. How do you think he would do if he lost 17 players from his two deep defense and one of his leading offensive weapons?

Jokes aside, there may be no program better situated to handle a rash of injuries than Alabama’s. And that comes from years of oversigning “roster management.” In that regard, it’s probably Alabama…and then everybody else.

 

coachtemp: Do you believe that BK and staff read the articles/comments posted here on Inside the Irish?

I cut the rest of this question out because I certainly hope that the staff doesn’t read this stuff!

Not that I don’t think that my opinion matters, but these guys are working 100 hour weeks trying to grind through a season. You want them to troll the comments or my columns for run game suggestions?

Too often writers/readers/websites take credit for suggesting something and then seeing it happen. Chances are, a smart/competent football staff will come to the same realization themselves.

I believe this group will figure it out. I haven’t changed my expectations for next season at all. In many ways, I think the struggles will provide even better fuel for next season.

 

steincj36: Is it just me, or did BK seem a little “disconnected” from the team in the 2nd half of the season? Like laying 100% blame on Everett after ASU and saying “they got their butt kicked” after USC? It just seems as if he personally refused to take the burden of the losses and rather put it on the players.

I ask this because I think Everett lost all his confidence when Kelly verbally undressed him after ASU.

I thought I already wrote this, but it’s worth posting again. I was standing in the room and asking questions when BK spoke postgame after ASU.

And I don’t think a single person in that room read it as “laying 100% blame on Everett.” I’ve been surprised and disappointed that people are spinning a narrative (that I’ve seen growing) that Kelly only blames his players for mistakes.

More to this point, right after the ASU game I watched Golson come into the media room and basically say the same thing. He doesn’t have a live feed into the head coach’s comments. So it’s not like he and BK had a chance to get their stories straight.

Golson lost his confidence because he COULDN’T STOP TURNING THE FOOTBALL OVER! That caused him to play tight — and just like a pitcher that starts steering the ball towards home plate, it never goes well.

Golson isn’t broken. And he’s hardly a guy with a weak will or strength of mind. Did we all forget that this was a kid who was kicked out of school and instead of transferring somewhere else and playing immediately he came back to Notre Dame?

These guys aren’t checked out. Nobody is disconnected. There’s just a ton of frustration that comes along with losing — both players (suspensions and injuries) and football games.

Lastly point (and sorry if this comes off as a rant against you, steiny) but Kelly seems in a bad spot. You want the standard coachspeak or a guy who is willing to be candid? I’ll take the version we’ve got all night long.

 

ndrocks2: Keith – what have you heard about the junior college prospect from Fresno City College, running back Jeremy Smith? When was the last time we recruited a JuCo player that you can remember?

I can’t remember a junior college player transferring in football. (Though I do know some athletes that transferred in after getting credits at the community college level.) But I did some digging on Smith, and ND’s interest in him is legit. Also, while he spent this season playing at the JuCo level, he was a full qualifier out of high school who didn’t like his offers and went out to do better for himself.

And after watching his film, it looks like he did that.

From what I hear, ND is working through some of the transfer issues, especially from a school like Fresno City College. But if things work out, Smith will come in as a sophomore with three years of eligibility remaining.  He’ll add some much needed depth and power to the running backs group, and a safety net if the Irish come up empty down the stretch chasing a second running back.

 

flandersst1: Given Brian Kelly’s history with multiple QB’s (i.e. he used 5 QB’s at Cinci in 2008 and won the Big East), would it be a bad thing if he platooned EG and MZ next year until game action indicated who was clearly better?

I wrote before the Rice game that I thought Zaire would get a series in the first half. So I’ve never hade an issue with playing both guys. But I think for every successful multi-quarterback system, there’s been about a hundred that didn’t work.

So I just prefer the leash gets shorter and both guys are held accountable. A platoon suggests both guys are ready. And that’s still the big question, because we certainly didn’t see enough from Zaire to prove he is.

But it’ll sure make for more interesting debate this offseason.

 

prodigolson: What should I be filling up my glass with when the Irish take the field for the bowl game?

Tears. It’s the last real football game we’ll be watching for nine months.

 

 

Report: Corey Holmes set to transfer

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Receiver Corey Holmes is transferring from Notre Dame. The junior, who has two seasons of eligibility remaining, will look for a new program after earning his degree this summer, Tom Loy of Irish247 reports.

Holmes told Irish247:

“It’s just the best decision for me. I’m graduating this summer and I’m just going to find the best fit for me to finish things up.”

Even after a strong spring, Holmes saw little action this season, though he played extensively against USC in the season finale. He had four catches against the Trojans, a large part of his 11 on the year, also his career total.

That Holmes wasn’t able to find a consistent spot in the rotation is likely a big reason why he’s looking for a new opportunity. After opening eyes after posting a 4.42 40-yard dash during spring drills, the Irish coaching staff looked for a way to get Holmes onto the field. But after losing reps at the X receiver on the outside, Holmes bounced inside and out, never finding a regular spot in the rotation, playing behind Torii Hunter Jr. and Kevin Stepherson on the outside and CJ Sanders and Chris Finke in the slot.

Holmes has two seasons of eligibility remaining, redshirting his sophomore season. Because he’ll earn his degree this summer, he’ll be able to play immediately next year. Irish 247 reports that Holmes is looking at Miami, UCLA, Arizona State, Arizona and North Carolina, though he’ll have a semester to find other fits.

 

Mailbag: All about BK

SOUTH BEND, IN - SEPTEMBER 17:  (L-R) Sam Kohler #29, head coach Brian Kelly, Grace Kelly and Hunter Bivin #70 of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish sing the alma mater following a loss to the Michigan State Spartans of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish at Notre Dame Stadium on September 17, 2016 in South Bend, Indiana.  Michigan State defeated Notre Dame 36-28. (Photo by Stacy Revere/Getty Images)
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Welcome to a fairly action-packed Mailbag. Why didn’t one of you guys remind me to do these more often?

This one, as the title suggests, is all about Brian Kelly.

 

@chrise384: Do you think that silence from Swarbrick this week means anything or do you think it’s status quo and BK is back in ’17?

I think Swarbrick’s been silent because there’s nothing else to say. He made his comment to ESPN that Kelly would be back in 2017. Why would it benefit him to say anything else?

Kelly also made comments—10 feet away from his boss—that he’d be back and doesn’t want to go anywhere. So other than releasing a 2:37 a.m. tweet reiterating Kelly’s intentions—and essentially calling B.S. on the reports that BK was looking to get out—there’s no reason to respond to the noise, when there’s a ton of work to do and big decisions still to make.

Speaking of those…

 

Domer521: Keith – The banquet is next Friday evening. Do you expect any announcements regarding recruits or DC/assistant coaches before then?

I don’t. For a variety of reasons, I think Kelly is waiting to make any formal moves on his staff until after that evening. And in reality, any college assistant that’s going to come to Notre Dame is probably coaching in a bowl game, and won’t leave his program until after that game is played.

(That doesn’t mean that BK isn’t lining things up. I expect that he is.)

So while the idea of getting a coordinator on hand now might be ideal, the reality of the situation is that you need someone ready to hit the recruiting trail after the New Year, taking the world by storm for that final month and closing stretch until Signing Day.

 

@GhostAKG: Many are saying Charlie Strong for our new DC. Is that good/realistic? And what are some of the names you’ve been hearing more?

I was one of the people to speculate, but the more you think about it the less it makes sense. Charlie Strong is a head coach. And a good one. Any return to South Bend would feel incredibly temporary, with the circus following every job vacancy that opens up—with fans and media speculating, “Is this the one to get Strong back to the head job?”

That’s not a headache BK and company would want to deal with, especially when you consider how much this collective fanbase sweats out coordinator hires or parallel moves.

(Remember when Tony Alford left after Signing Day and it felt like someone died around here?)

Charlie Strong is a good man and a good coach. But that’s the wrong type of hire for ND. I think he’ll probably take a year off to examine the landscape, continue to cash those fat checks coming from Austin, and then get back into it next year.

 

irishwilliamsport:

Keith, I know this is an exercise in futility but I’ll ask a mailbag question… What would you guess BK’s combined job approval rating is among all fan bases ?

You’ve got me. No clue. Does anybody have a good job approval rating?

At this point, I don’t think anybody’s approval rating is all that high at 4-8, to the point that Jack Swarbrick—a guy who might be the most powerful and intelligent athletic director in the country—has seen fans turn on him as well.

I wasn’t quite sure what you were getting at with your question about “all fan bases,” but maybe you were talking about the perception of Kelly both inside and out of the program? If so, I thought Colin Cowherd’s take on Kelly, at least from a national perspective and a guy who watches a lot of college football, is interesting. (It’s a perspective that’s pretty common, I must say.)

 

codenamegee: 

What has Brian Kelly done to make you think he can win a championship at Notre Dame. Looking at his FBS coaching resume his teams have never beaten a top 5 team. I just don’t get why everyone thinks he’s a good coach. Notre Dame is poorly coached (too many mental breakdowns), offense lacks imagination (Running plays are too predictable, no tail back screens, no delay draws, lack of counters and traps). Yet all I hear how Brian Kelly is this great coach or Brian Kelly is a great offensive mind. If he is, he hasn’t showed it since he’s been in South Bend.

Well, first off—and this is a biggie—he played for one. So let’s not ignore that. And he was maybe one play away from getting invited to playing for another last year, a game-winning, last-second field goal against Stanford knocking the Irish from the playoff.

Now I get that playing for one isn’t the same as winning one. And when it comes to comparing this program to Alabama’s, frankly I don’t think Notre Dame has a chance to get to that level until Nick Saban retires… or the NCAA finds something illegal in his program. So if that’s the bar you’ll set, I’m not sure he can get there. And I’m not sure Notre Dame is willing to do what it takes to get there. And frankly, that’s something I’m okay with—especially as you

Last point for you—have you really heard anybody calling Brian Kelly a good coach lately? Is anybody following Notre Dame saying Kelly’s done a good job this season? Has the coach himself even said that? Have I?

Listen, I get it. Losing seasons are terrible. They are really painful and this one came out of nowhere, making it worse. Then throw on top of that just how close the games were—each week a decision here or there, or a blown assignment or missed opportunity sometimes the singular difference between a win and a loss.

That all adds up. And it certainly will carry into next season, a direct reflection on the coach’s job status, regardless of the length of his remaining contract.

 

irishdog80: Can Brian Kelly truly survive and thrive as head coach at Notre Dame or is his best opportunity a fresh start at a new school or pro team?

I don’t think Kelly would’ve stayed if he didn’t think he could thrive. He could get another job if he wanted one. And I don’t think Swarbrick would’ve let him stick around if he didn’t have comfort that the football program—a team that he spends more time around than anybody outside the players and the coaches—was in good hands, and that this was a bad season, not a bad program.

That’s a really good question though, Irishdog. We’ve seen Bob Stoops rally. We’ve seen David Shaw bounce back, though neither pulled a four-win season. And for now, I think Kelly can, too. But it’s worth pointing out that the rumor everybody seemed to be fired up about, three-win & nine-loss Mark Dantonio, would be a huge coaching upgrade over Kelly is funny, considering Dantonio just took a College Football Playoff team and drove it off a cliff.

 

 

irishcatholic16: With reports that Brian Kelly is seeking job opportunities outside of Notre Dame then shortly after saying that he’s committed to Notre Dame along with him bolting Cincinnati in the same fashion (saying he would stay then leaving), do you think he will lose the trust of his team and could we see more decommits as a result? Will the team trust him knowing that he isn’t fully committed?

I have no belief that those reports are true. And I have no reason to think that Kelly’s team—seven years in—would have their trust of the man leading the program hinging on reports from national media pundits.

Are we still talking about the way he left Cincinnati? Because it sure looked to me an awful lot like every coach leaves their program—Tom Herman just the latest example of a coach left in an unwinnable situation, with the media ready to pounce by asking unanswerable questions.

Now don’t get me wrong, I don’t doubt that Kelly’s agent was talking to teams. He was. He’s the same guy that reps Herman, and a handful of other top-shelf coaches. But that’s what agents do. They talk about their clients, 99% of the time without the client ever having any idea he’s doing it.

 

 

bjc378:

I’ll ask the obvious question. Sorry, I didn’t listen to the podcast.

Do you (still) think BK should be the Irish coach next year? If so, how long of a leash do you give him next year and what changes would you demand? If not, or if he decides to coach elsewhere, what’s your wish list look like?

No apology necessary, first off, on the podcast. It’s supplemental, but listen for John Walters’ wisdom, it’s basically like telling your friends you subscribe to Newsweek.

As for BK, yes I do think he should be the coach next year. I don’t think Notre Dame is a program that should fire someone for a single bad season—period. I didn’t like it when they did it to Ty (in retrospect it was the right thing to do), and I wouldn’t like it if they did it to Kelly, a year off a ten-win season and a Fiesta Bowl appearance.

(Also worth noting, they don’t do it in hockey, basketball, baseball, soccer, or any other sport.)

As for the leash? That’s hard to say. I think we’ll know quite a bit about this team at the end of next September. They’ll have played Temple (the potential AAC champ coached by one of the nation’s underrated head coaches in Matt Rhule), Georgia, Boston College, Michigan State and—don’t laugh—Miami (Ohio), who has got it going now under Chuck Martin. So if that month goes sideways and the season does too, I won’t have any problem with Swarbrick trying to upgrade and make a change.

As for the wish list? No clue. Not at this point. I’ll take Jon Gruden off of it, so cross him off before anybody asks me. And any other NFL head coach.

But I’d start by looking at someone like Willie Taggart, a young Harbaugh protege who coached at Stanford and has now done good work as a head coach at both Western Kentucky and USF.

Drue Tranquill named first-team Academic All-American

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Drue Tranquill was named a first-team Academic All-American. The junior safety, who returned from his second major knee injury during his three-year career, earned the honors after posting a 3.74 GPA in mechanical engineering.

Tranquill is Notre Dame’s first academic All-American since Corey Robinson earned the honor after the 2014 season. He finished second on the team in tackles with 79 and lead the team in solo stops with 52. He also had two TFLs and an interception.

Tranquill is Notre Dame’s 60th Academic All-American, the third-most of any school behind Nebraska and Penn State. He’s active in the university community, serving as a mentor for the Core Leadership Team for Lifeworks Ministry, and is a member of Notre Dame Christian Athletes. He is a also member of the Student-Athlete Advisory Council (SAAC) and Rosenthal Leadership Academy.

 

Postseason Mailbag: Now Open

SAN ANTONIO, TX - NOVEMBER 12: Notre Dame head coach Brian Kelly leads his team onto the field before the start of their game against Army in a NCAA college football game at the Alamodome on November 12, 2016 in San Antonio, Texas.  (Photo by Ronald Cortes/Getty Images)
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It’s been too long. Let’s talk about the season, the decisions ahead and where Notre Dame stands after its nightmare of a 2016 season.

Drop your questions on Twitter @KeithArnold or in the comments below.

 

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If you’re interested in hearing my recap on the USC game and where Notre Dame’s goes now that the season is over, give a listen to the latest episode of Blown Coverage, with Newsweek’s John Walters.