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The after Signing Day mailbag: Part One

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Some great questions came through over the past 48 hours. After a busy day that started around 3:30 a.m. and didn’t end until some coaching and transfer rumors got hunted down late last night, there’s more to talk about than ever.

Let’s get to some of your questions, and space these out a bit this afternoon.

 

onward2victory: If there is so much unethical behavior in recruiting, why don’t more programs that are trying to do things the right way scream foul? For example (purely hypothetical), if you’re recruiting a kid, and his dad says Auburn is offering X amount of money, why wouldn’t you report Auburn to compliance for investigation?

There is no simple answer to this question, Onward. But I’d point out the flack Lane Kiffin caught when he was at Tennessee for pointing out some of the shady dealings that happen at schools in certain states, like fax machines that don’t work, etc. Nobody likes a squealer. Especially in this high-octane world.

The idea of players getting paid — and yes, it certainly does happen (including some recruits that Notre Dame unsuccessfully chased this year) — isn’t quite as overt as an assistant coaching handing a kid a stack of cash. Usually these bagmen (and here’s a wonderful article that’s worth your time) don’t even work for the school, but are merely overzealous boosters working with little connectivity to a coaching staff.

There’s no question that some schools likely put up a fight and complain, though they don’t take those complaints public via the media. But as long as there are super easy ways to contact recruits — just take a look at the Twitter and Instagram feeds of the top recruits this year — there will be issues.

This isn’t new.

 

grammarnazi69: Under Diaco, the Irish had a set of parameters they used to decide whether or not to recruit a guy, and would usually pass on a guy that didn’t fit. Has that philosophy carried over to Van Gorder? How does what Van Gorder looks for in a recruit vary from what Diaco looked for?

It hasn’t carried over. It’s actually one of the big changes as the team recruits defensive players. Brian VanGorder is looking for football players. Doesn’t care what size they are, because he knows better than most that there are 5’9″ cornerbacks that play elite football in the NFL and undersized defensive ends that are wreaking havoc.

That’s why Shaun Crawford signed with Notre Dame. Bob Diaco didn’t want to offer him because he thought he was too short.

The best analogy I can give you is one I’m told VanGorder uses. He compares building a defense to a chef assembling all the ingredients he needs for a kitchen. You need a large variety for your kitchen. That’s why you see the “profile” defensive linemen like Brandon Tiassum or Micah Dew-Treadway, but you also see guys like Crawford and linebacker Asmar Bilal, neither traditional fits for Diaco.

A great chef needs diversity. But most of all he needs quality ingredients.

 

GreenShamrock: Does Wimbush redshirt if Golson does not return? And do you see Wimbush as the QB after Zaire or do they bring in a different QB next year or in 2 years.

I don’t think Everett Golson is going to transfer. But if he does, Wimbush will likely be in the same situation as DeShone Kizer was last year. Third-stringer that the Irish really don’t want to use.

But after poking around, there’s a belief that Wimbush is an elite, elite player. So while you’re asking if Wimbush is the starter after Zaire, I’m wondering if Zaire is able to hold Wimbush off over the next three seasons.

 

nateprez4irish: With the shifting of positions and injuries, are you surprised at not attacking more O-Line recruits? To be able to run the offense that has worked most effectively, this is a big deal. How do you see that shaping up for this and the next say 2 classes?

Over the past few recruiting cycles, Notre Dame over-recruited the offensive line. The depth chart is as healthy as its ever been, especially because I think Kelly and the Irish staff will continue to bring back every offensive lineman that can conceivably contribute for five seasons.

No doubt, the move of Tillery to the defensive side of the ball made this group thin. But Harry Hiestand has been really rock solid on the recruiting trail, and expect another big class in 2016 that’ll make up for the light class this year.

The other point worth noting: Add an offensive lineman but subtract a what? People are already losing their minds over the fact that the Irish are only bringing in two safeties in this class. But who do you kick out of this class? A receiver? Not from that group, at least in my opinion.

 

padomer: With the presumption the Kerry Cooks is gonzo: 1. was his “lateral move” a money issue? relationship with staff issue? combo of things? this was a shocker and I think without the proper fill-in can be a bigggg deal.

2. Do you expect the new hire to have roots in the tex, la, southeast region seeing as Kerry has more than gotten his foot in the door down there and was one or two years away (provided with on-field success) from establishing a clear pipeline down there?

It looks like the new hire is former Pro Bowler and Notre Dame All-American Todd Lyght. So that’s not a bad hire, especially with Kelly’s ability to vet just about every coach Lyght’s ever worked with.

Back to Cooks, I think the move was in his best interest. He’s spent five seasons in South Bend and got passed up for the defensive coordinator position. Oklahoma was desperate to fix a secondary that was ranked 117th against the pass. And I’m guessing they added a significant bump to his pay check.

Cooks is moving closer to home and family for both he and his wife. There is nothing but mutual respect from both sides and he’ll certainly be missed, especially on the recruiting trail in Texas and Louisiana.

That’s probably the bigger piece of it — and something that Kelly will look to remedy. But the ground work laid by Cooks in those states doesn’t evaporate because he’s gone. But it’s certainly the biggest part of the move, and something that’ll be seriously considered as Kelly restocks the staff.

 

@EricRuethling: With immediate playing time available, why is ND having such a hard time landing a remaining high profile safety or RB?

This was written before Dexter Williams committed, so I’m going to take RB off the complaint list. And Notre Dame had three safeties until January, when it became clear that Prentice McKinney’s grades were going to be a serious problem.

The problem with landing high profile players is that everybody wants them. And Notre Dame’s recruiting techniques are usually much different than the rest of the power players in the hunt. It’s a life decision to choose Notre Dame, not necessarily just a football one. Not many blue-chippers just jump to ND on Signing Day.

Kelly was fairly candid about this, talking about the priority changes and shifts during the cycle. And if we’re really most disappointed about not landing a third safety in this group, I feel like Notre Dame did a great job with this group.

Report: Corey Holmes set to transfer

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Receiver Corey Holmes is transferring from Notre Dame. The junior, who has two seasons of eligibility remaining, will look for a new program after earning his degree this summer, Tom Loy of Irish247 reports.

Holmes told Irish247:

“It’s just the best decision for me. I’m graduating this summer and I’m just going to find the best fit for me to finish things up.”

Even after a strong spring, Holmes saw little action this season, though he played extensively against USC in the season finale. He had four catches against the Trojans, a large part of his 11 on the year, also his career total.

That Holmes wasn’t able to find a consistent spot in the rotation is likely a big reason why he’s looking for a new opportunity. After opening eyes after posting a 4.42 40-yard dash during spring drills, the Irish coaching staff looked for a way to get Holmes onto the field. But after losing reps at the X receiver on the outside, Holmes bounced inside and out, never finding a regular spot in the rotation, playing behind Torii Hunter Jr. and Kevin Stepherson on the outside and CJ Sanders and Chris Finke in the slot.

Holmes has two seasons of eligibility remaining, redshirting his sophomore season. Because he’ll earn his degree this summer, he’ll be able to play immediately next year. Irish 247 reports that Holmes is looking at Miami, UCLA, Arizona State, Arizona and North Carolina, though he’ll have a semester to find other fits.

 

Mailbag: All about BK

SOUTH BEND, IN - SEPTEMBER 17:  (L-R) Sam Kohler #29, head coach Brian Kelly, Grace Kelly and Hunter Bivin #70 of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish sing the alma mater following a loss to the Michigan State Spartans of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish at Notre Dame Stadium on September 17, 2016 in South Bend, Indiana.  Michigan State defeated Notre Dame 36-28. (Photo by Stacy Revere/Getty Images)
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Welcome to a fairly action-packed Mailbag. Why didn’t one of you guys remind me to do these more often?

This one, as the title suggests, is all about Brian Kelly.

 

@chrise384: Do you think that silence from Swarbrick this week means anything or do you think it’s status quo and BK is back in ’17?

I think Swarbrick’s been silent because there’s nothing else to say. He made his comment to ESPN that Kelly would be back in 2017. Why would it benefit him to say anything else?

Kelly also made comments—10 feet away from his boss—that he’d be back and doesn’t want to go anywhere. So other than releasing a 2:37 a.m. tweet reiterating Kelly’s intentions—and essentially calling B.S. on the reports that BK was looking to get out—there’s no reason to respond to the noise, when there’s a ton of work to do and big decisions still to make.

Speaking of those…

 

Domer521: Keith – The banquet is next Friday evening. Do you expect any announcements regarding recruits or DC/assistant coaches before then?

I don’t. For a variety of reasons, I think Kelly is waiting to make any formal moves on his staff until after that evening. And in reality, any college assistant that’s going to come to Notre Dame is probably coaching in a bowl game, and won’t leave his program until after that game is played.

(That doesn’t mean that BK isn’t lining things up. I expect that he is.)

So while the idea of getting a coordinator on hand now might be ideal, the reality of the situation is that you need someone ready to hit the recruiting trail after the New Year, taking the world by storm for that final month and closing stretch until Signing Day.

 

@GhostAKG: Many are saying Charlie Strong for our new DC. Is that good/realistic? And what are some of the names you’ve been hearing more?

I was one of the people to speculate, but the more you think about it the less it makes sense. Charlie Strong is a head coach. And a good one. Any return to South Bend would feel incredibly temporary, with the circus following every job vacancy that opens up—with fans and media speculating, “Is this the one to get Strong back to the head job?”

That’s not a headache BK and company would want to deal with, especially when you consider how much this collective fanbase sweats out coordinator hires or parallel moves.

(Remember when Tony Alford left after Signing Day and it felt like someone died around here?)

Charlie Strong is a good man and a good coach. But that’s the wrong type of hire for ND. I think he’ll probably take a year off to examine the landscape, continue to cash those fat checks coming from Austin, and then get back into it next year.

 

irishwilliamsport:

Keith, I know this is an exercise in futility but I’ll ask a mailbag question… What would you guess BK’s combined job approval rating is among all fan bases ?

You’ve got me. No clue. Does anybody have a good job approval rating?

At this point, I don’t think anybody’s approval rating is all that high at 4-8, to the point that Jack Swarbrick—a guy who might be the most powerful and intelligent athletic director in the country—has seen fans turn on him as well.

I wasn’t quite sure what you were getting at with your question about “all fan bases,” but maybe you were talking about the perception of Kelly both inside and out of the program? If so, I thought Colin Cowherd’s take on Kelly, at least from a national perspective and a guy who watches a lot of college football, is interesting. (It’s a perspective that’s pretty common, I must say.)

 

codenamegee: 

What has Brian Kelly done to make you think he can win a championship at Notre Dame. Looking at his FBS coaching resume his teams have never beaten a top 5 team. I just don’t get why everyone thinks he’s a good coach. Notre Dame is poorly coached (too many mental breakdowns), offense lacks imagination (Running plays are too predictable, no tail back screens, no delay draws, lack of counters and traps). Yet all I hear how Brian Kelly is this great coach or Brian Kelly is a great offensive mind. If he is, he hasn’t showed it since he’s been in South Bend.

Well, first off—and this is a biggie—he played for one. So let’s not ignore that. And he was maybe one play away from getting invited to playing for another last year, a game-winning, last-second field goal against Stanford knocking the Irish from the playoff.

Now I get that playing for one isn’t the same as winning one. And when it comes to comparing this program to Alabama’s, frankly I don’t think Notre Dame has a chance to get to that level until Nick Saban retires… or the NCAA finds something illegal in his program. So if that’s the bar you’ll set, I’m not sure he can get there. And I’m not sure Notre Dame is willing to do what it takes to get there. And frankly, that’s something I’m okay with—especially as you

Last point for you—have you really heard anybody calling Brian Kelly a good coach lately? Is anybody following Notre Dame saying Kelly’s done a good job this season? Has the coach himself even said that? Have I?

Listen, I get it. Losing seasons are terrible. They are really painful and this one came out of nowhere, making it worse. Then throw on top of that just how close the games were—each week a decision here or there, or a blown assignment or missed opportunity sometimes the singular difference between a win and a loss.

That all adds up. And it certainly will carry into next season, a direct reflection on the coach’s job status, regardless of the length of his remaining contract.

 

irishdog80: Can Brian Kelly truly survive and thrive as head coach at Notre Dame or is his best opportunity a fresh start at a new school or pro team?

I don’t think Kelly would’ve stayed if he didn’t think he could thrive. He could get another job if he wanted one. And I don’t think Swarbrick would’ve let him stick around if he didn’t have comfort that the football program—a team that he spends more time around than anybody outside the players and the coaches—was in good hands, and that this was a bad season, not a bad program.

That’s a really good question though, Irishdog. We’ve seen Bob Stoops rally. We’ve seen David Shaw bounce back, though neither pulled a four-win season. And for now, I think Kelly can, too. But it’s worth pointing out that the rumor everybody seemed to be fired up about, three-win & nine-loss Mark Dantonio, would be a huge coaching upgrade over Kelly is funny, considering Dantonio just took a College Football Playoff team and drove it off a cliff.

 

 

irishcatholic16: With reports that Brian Kelly is seeking job opportunities outside of Notre Dame then shortly after saying that he’s committed to Notre Dame along with him bolting Cincinnati in the same fashion (saying he would stay then leaving), do you think he will lose the trust of his team and could we see more decommits as a result? Will the team trust him knowing that he isn’t fully committed?

I have no belief that those reports are true. And I have no reason to think that Kelly’s team—seven years in—would have their trust of the man leading the program hinging on reports from national media pundits.

Are we still talking about the way he left Cincinnati? Because it sure looked to me an awful lot like every coach leaves their program—Tom Herman just the latest example of a coach left in an unwinnable situation, with the media ready to pounce by asking unanswerable questions.

Now don’t get me wrong, I don’t doubt that Kelly’s agent was talking to teams. He was. He’s the same guy that reps Herman, and a handful of other top-shelf coaches. But that’s what agents do. They talk about their clients, 99% of the time without the client ever having any idea he’s doing it.

 

 

bjc378:

I’ll ask the obvious question. Sorry, I didn’t listen to the podcast.

Do you (still) think BK should be the Irish coach next year? If so, how long of a leash do you give him next year and what changes would you demand? If not, or if he decides to coach elsewhere, what’s your wish list look like?

No apology necessary, first off, on the podcast. It’s supplemental, but listen for John Walters’ wisdom, it’s basically like telling your friends you subscribe to Newsweek.

As for BK, yes I do think he should be the coach next year. I don’t think Notre Dame is a program that should fire someone for a single bad season—period. I didn’t like it when they did it to Ty (in retrospect it was the right thing to do), and I wouldn’t like it if they did it to Kelly, a year off a ten-win season and a Fiesta Bowl appearance.

(Also worth noting, they don’t do it in hockey, basketball, baseball, soccer, or any other sport.)

As for the leash? That’s hard to say. I think we’ll know quite a bit about this team at the end of next September. They’ll have played Temple (the potential AAC champ coached by one of the nation’s underrated head coaches in Matt Rhule), Georgia, Boston College, Michigan State and—don’t laugh—Miami (Ohio), who has got it going now under Chuck Martin. So if that month goes sideways and the season does too, I won’t have any problem with Swarbrick trying to upgrade and make a change.

As for the wish list? No clue. Not at this point. I’ll take Jon Gruden off of it, so cross him off before anybody asks me. And any other NFL head coach.

But I’d start by looking at someone like Willie Taggart, a young Harbaugh protege who coached at Stanford and has now done good work as a head coach at both Western Kentucky and USF.

Drue Tranquill named first-team Academic All-American

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Drue Tranquill was named a first-team Academic All-American. The junior safety, who returned from his second major knee injury during his three-year career, earned the honors after posting a 3.74 GPA in mechanical engineering.

Tranquill is Notre Dame’s first academic All-American since Corey Robinson earned the honor after the 2014 season. He finished second on the team in tackles with 79 and lead the team in solo stops with 52. He also had two TFLs and an interception.

Tranquill is Notre Dame’s 60th Academic All-American, the third-most of any school behind Nebraska and Penn State. He’s active in the university community, serving as a mentor for the Core Leadership Team for Lifeworks Ministry, and is a member of Notre Dame Christian Athletes. He is a also member of the Student-Athlete Advisory Council (SAAC) and Rosenthal Leadership Academy.

 

Postseason Mailbag: Now Open

SAN ANTONIO, TX - NOVEMBER 12: Notre Dame head coach Brian Kelly leads his team onto the field before the start of their game against Army in a NCAA college football game at the Alamodome on November 12, 2016 in San Antonio, Texas.  (Photo by Ronald Cortes/Getty Images)
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It’s been too long. Let’s talk about the season, the decisions ahead and where Notre Dame stands after its nightmare of a 2016 season.

Drop your questions on Twitter @KeithArnold or in the comments below.

 

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If you’re interested in hearing my recap on the USC game and where Notre Dame’s goes now that the season is over, give a listen to the latest episode of Blown Coverage, with Newsweek’s John Walters.